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April 5th, 2016 at 9:49:12 PM permalink
There are already at least four forum threads related to the WoV 2016 Spring Fling:

(1) The original poll for "When?". (This is no longer an active thread, since we decided on Saturday 4/16/16 for the main event.)

(2) The follow-up poll for "Where? and What?"

(3) DJTeddyBear's thread for a "Sunday Agenda."

(4) Discussion of the "Nugget Challenge" to be attempted by that wild and crazy guy, PokerGrinder himself.


I am starting one more thread here in an attempt to tie some of this stuff together. Of first importance, I think that there is some value in knowing (roughly) how many people we should expect to have show up at the various sub-events. By now, most of the out-of-towners should have their plans fairly well established, and even the locals might know how big the entourage might be this year.

Knowing who will be there might help us find each other -- we had a little problem with that on Friday night last year when our group headed out to an alternate spot, not knowing we had left some folks behind and didn't find them until hours later.

If you will please post in this thread saying which of the following events you expect to be present for and the number of non-member guests you expect to have with you, I will periodically post a compiled attendees list. (Don't think I can keep it up to date in post #1 under current forum rules against revising past posts.)


Event #1: Friday Evening preliminary event, 4/15/16.
Typically a smaller group, typically starting at Main Street Station, sometimes dining at the buffet, sometimes in the 777, but sometimes venturing elsewhere. Last year we had dinner at the Triple George. We typically have some group gaming after dinner wherever we decide upon at the time. There has already been some discussion about what time people might be able to gather that evening, but I haven't dug through the threads for the details. I think a gathering at 5 at MSS was suggested, but I think we're still open for input on that. If you don't post your intention to join in, you might get left behind if we move on.

Event #2: Saturday Evening Main Event, 4/16/16.
The location is set as the 777 Brew Pub at Main Street Station. In this post, the Wizard repeated his preference "that we set 5:00 as the trickle-in time and 6:00 as the target to start ordering food" and offered to make a reservation for that time. Having an attendee list/count should help on that.

Following dinner, we will almost certainly participate in some group gaming. There has already been some discussion of game preferences, with craps and poker commanding the highest number of mentions. At last check, those two games were in as exact a tie as UNC and Villanova were with five seconds left in the game. There has been brief discussion of having a pre-dinner gaming session, perhaps starting around 3:00 p.m. (?) I mentioned this possibility once (or twice) as a way to allow one session of poker and one of craps without having to split the group apart completely.

I don't think anything has really been decided about Main Event gaming (other than trivia), so this is one more opportunity for you to give your input.

Event #3: DJTB's Sunday Tour of Downtown, 4/17/16.
He is still discussing that agenda in his thread, so I don't want to step on any toes. If I pick up attendee details either in this thread or in his, I will attempt to include that in my compiled list.

Event #4: The Nugget Challenge, 4/18/16.
To be held at The D on Fremont Street. Last I heard, the start time was set in this post for noon on Monday. Please let me know if that is not current information.


So what info am I looking to collect here? I give an example with my own input.

Quote: Doc

Event #1 (Friday): One member and one guest (wife). Possibly 2 additional guests, but I won't know until I am in Las Vegas and have a chance to ask them about their schedules.

Event #2 (Saturday): One member and one guest. One for craps either before or after dinner; possibly poker (low limit) for one of those session times.

Event #3 (Sunday): Certainly not for the entire schedule, but I might join for some portion.

Event #4 (Monday): Still indefinite; we'll be driving to Laughlin and haven't figured our schedule in detail.



What say ye all?

Note: If you are one of those "incognito" or "flying under the radar" folks and don't want to make a public announcement of your plan to attend, you can P.M. me, and I will list you as a "mysterious guest", if that would meet your needs, since knowing that someone will be there would help with a reservation count. Thanks.
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April 5th, 2016 at 10:10:10 PM permalink
Thanks for taking the lead and organizing all this mess Doc. I will be attending all the festivities listed above. I should get into Vegas from Wendover, NV in time for the Friday start time.
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April 6th, 2016 at 5:55:09 AM permalink
Ditto. While I'll continue to lead the Sunday activities, thanks for taking charge of the rest of the weekend.


As I've mentioned, I'll be arriving Saturday around noon. I'll be departing Tuesday evening. I'm coming alone.

I REALLY hope we have some preliminary activity Saturday afternoon. If not gambling, may I suggest the following: It is my understanding that Main Street Station has a lot of interesting items to see, and the front desk even provides a map for a tour of the facility.

Regarding the problem of the group breaking up / changing plans mid-stream: During the day, post a simple, We're now leaving X heading to Y, or, Change of plans, we're heading to Z, etc.

I plan on doing that on Sunday as we leave each stop of the walking tour.

On that note, is there anyone planning on attending that doesn't have a smart phone? If so, send me a text message, and I'll keep you informed via text. My cell number is 973-896-7905. Note: I already have my phone number posted on my website, so I don't mind posting it here.

See ya in TEN days! Woo hoo!
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April 6th, 2016 at 7:28:59 AM permalink
Event #1 (Friday): TENTATIVE. If attended it would be myself, another member, and 1 non member. We have soft plans already for this night so this is why I'm tentative, pending the timeline. 5pm dinner and some gaming after could work as our plans would be later in the evening around 10-11pm. I'll have to confirm with them before confirming.

Event #2 (Saturday): All 3 of us will be in attendance for dinner and up for gaming after. Gaming before would be a game day decision I think.

Event #3 (Sunday): Prior plans prohibit us from partaking in the fun.

Event #4 (Monday): All 3 of us will be in attendance for PG's attempt at the Nugget Throne =P.
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April 6th, 2016 at 9:01:14 AM permalink
Event #1 (Friday): I am in for sure. Probably with 1 guest, who may or may not gamble with us.

Event #2 (Saturday): myself and one guest are in for all events (again, she may or may not actually gamble).

Event #3 (Sunday): I'm told that this is "too much walking." I'm hopeful to be able to meet up downtown at the end of the loop, but that's tentative at best.

Event #4 (Monday): The event happens as I'm flying out. I'll look for the video on youtube upon my return to the east coast.


I'd be happy to be a point of contact for anyone who is looking for the group on friday evening (or on saturday afternoon/evening). My contact info is in my profile.
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April 6th, 2016 at 9:28:50 AM permalink
Briefly priced out a last-minute flight, as my wife is going to a bridal shower out of town that weekend. Not gonna happen though. Have fun everyone!
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April 6th, 2016 at 9:59:39 AM permalink
OK, first round summary looks like this with updates to follow as others make their posts:

Friday
Doc + 1 (possibly 2 more)
PokerGrinder
Romes +2 (all tentative)
rdw4potus +1

Saturday
Doc + 1
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
rdw4potus +1

Sunday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear

Monday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
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April 6th, 2016 at 5:05:50 PM permalink
Hi, you can put me down for Saturday.
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April 7th, 2016 at 2:42:15 PM permalink
No guest.

Event #1 (Friday): I should make it there at 5PM.

Event #2 (Saturday): Will be there.

Event #3 (Sunday): Still don't know yet. Will figure it out Saturday.

Event #4 (Monday): Seeing a live eating challenge for the 1st time? Hell yeah!
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April 7th, 2016 at 6:37:30 PM permalink
I intend to bring myself to the Friday, Saturday and Sunday events. I will not be able to attend the Monday event.
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April 7th, 2016 at 7:25:01 PM permalink
OK, attendee update as of 7:25p.m. PDT, Thursday 4/7/16 :

Friday
Doc + 1 (possibly 2 more)
PokerGrinder
Romes +2 (all tentative)
rdw4potus +1
Konbu
BlueEagle

Saturday
Doc + 1
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
rdw4potus +1
NicksGamingStuff
Konbu
BlueEagle

Sunday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
BlueEagle

Monday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
Konbu
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April 7th, 2016 at 11:44:18 PM permalink
I'll be in Vegas Monday night - Friday morning (work), so won't be able to attend. And changing my flight to accommodate a meeting is very price prohibitive, unless I can yank a massive craps roll earlier in the week.

So, I'll have to pass.
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April 8th, 2016 at 12:09:55 AM permalink
99 percent sure I'll be there
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April 8th, 2016 at 3:20:23 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

99 percent sure I'll be there

But which days? And any guests?
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April 8th, 2016 at 4:57:13 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

I'll be in Vegas Monday night - Friday morning (work), so won't be able to attend. And changing my flight to accommodate a meeting is very price prohibitive, unless I can yank a massive craps roll earlier in the week.

So, I'll have to pass.


Damn, bad luck.
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April 8th, 2016 at 7:48:42 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: Wizardofnothing

99 percent sure I'll be there

But which days? And any guests?


For the moment, I will add Wizardofnothing as coming alone to all of the events. Please let me know what corrections I need to make to that. And you're on your own for any/all tickets needed on Sunday.
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April 8th, 2016 at 8:01:32 AM permalink
Just me- I also have an extra ticket to ufc 197 if anyone wants to go
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April 8th, 2016 at 9:10:06 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Just me- I also have an extra ticket to ufc 197 if anyone wants to go

I'm a big UFC fan and been training mma the past 8 years, but I will be gone by then =(. How did you come about an "extra" 197 ticket? Comp?
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April 8th, 2016 at 9:45:11 AM permalink
Yes comp- I have three buddies coming up it with me but one of them has to leave Friday
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April 8th, 2016 at 10:39:46 AM permalink
Count on me Saturday and Monday. Possible +1 on Saturday.
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April 8th, 2016 at 3:22:41 PM permalink
Trying to change around something flight wise, does anyone have the exact other notary again for the entire duration?
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April 8th, 2016 at 4:03:28 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

... the exact other notary again for the entire duration?

I'm not at all sure I know what that sequence of words means. "Itinerary" instead of "other notary" maybe? A reasonable 1st cut of the weekend schedule of WoV events is in the first post of this thread. Details for Sunday are in DJTB's thread.
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April 8th, 2016 at 4:08:39 PM permalink
Damn auto correct meant itinerary
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April 8th, 2016 at 10:15:32 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Details for Sunday are in DJTB's thread.

Note that I'm willing to juggle.

Mike suggested the Contsiner Park for lunch Monday. It's on my Sunday list but I can substitute.

Also, I proposed a slot tourney. Although I've never done one, I suspect it would be more fun with more people. Therefore switch it to either Saturday or Monday.
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April 9th, 2016 at 6:18:23 AM permalink
Here's the Saturday morning update. Hopefully we will get a few more sign-ups over the weekend.

Friday
Doc + 1 (possibly 2 more)
PokerGrinder
Romes +2 (all tentative)
rdw4potus +1
Konbu
BlueEagle
WizardofNothing

Saturday
Doc + 1
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
rdw4potus +1
NicksGamingStuff
Konbu
BlueEagle
WizardofNothing
The Wizard (+1?)

Sunday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
BlueEagle
WizardofNothing

Monday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
Konbu
WizardofNothing
The Wizard
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April 11th, 2016 at 5:45:13 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Hopefully we will get a few more sign-ups over the weekend.


Well, we didn't.

This post is a shameless bump that attempts to catch the attention of any folks who may not have seen this thread and haven't yet told us of their intent to join us at any of these events. Please let us add your name to some of the above lists!



I think there used to be a "rule" around here that shameless bumps are supposed to be accompanied by a joke. I am terrible at telling jokes, so I'll just provide a link to some minor humor from another Wizard.

Another Wizard's humor about the moon
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April 11th, 2016 at 5:50:33 PM permalink
I'll be going but will be anonymous and most likely available however I'm there for work so can't 100 percent say I'll do every event
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April 11th, 2016 at 5:53:52 PM permalink
Def up for the gamblers book store with dj.
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April 12th, 2016 at 11:28:48 AM permalink
Saturday and Monday for me. Are we playing poker?
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April 12th, 2016 at 11:55:36 AM permalink
On my way to Vegas now. Been looking forward to this for a while.
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April 12th, 2016 at 11:57:10 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

...Are we playing poker?

I think we definitely have enough interest for a poker game.

Quote: PokerGrinder

On my way to Vegas now. Been looking forward to this for a while.

Awesome! Always a good time, but hope it's also a profitable time for you too! See you this weekend =D.
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April 12th, 2016 at 12:02:57 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I think we definitely have enough interest for a poker game.

Awesome! Always a good time, but hope it's also a profitable time for you too! See you this weekend =D.


Profitable is always the goal! Looking forward to meeting everyone.
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April 12th, 2016 at 12:41:35 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Quote: MaxPen

...Are we playing poker?

I think we definitely have enough interest for a poker game.


I think there is definitely interest in both poker and craps, the two games most likely to permit a WoV group of more than 3 or 4 to play at the same table together. I have played both games with WoV groups -- craps quite a few times and 2-4 Limit hold'em just once.

As I related to one member, the difficulty I see in organizing a poker game will be in getting agreement on what kind of game people want. Some might find a limit game to be tame to the point of boring, while others might consider a no-limit game outside their comfort range. Consider this in contrast to a group playing craps, with some people playing $5 and others playing $50 or $100 as their base bet; in craps that is not a conflict at all at the same table.

Since I have very rarely played poker, I don't think I am the right one to try to organize a game and get agreement on what and where. I had tentatively suggested (maybe twice) that we play one game before dinner Saturday night and the other game after dinner. I have just decided that I'm the wrong organizer for poker.
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April 12th, 2016 at 12:52:51 PM permalink
While there are a "lot" of poker options, the "standard" poker player will want to play NL texas hold'em. I think among the group at dinner (or before) we could collectively decide what/where to play. Shouldn't be too difficult.
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April 12th, 2016 at 1:08:44 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

... the "standard" poker player will want to play NL texas hold'em.

I suspect you are quite correct. The complication for a WoV gathering is that non-standard players, or even those (like me) who aren't really poker players at all, might join a limit game for the social aspects but wouldn't feel comfortable trying to play no-limit. I think that's why the Wizard set up a limit game at WoVCon I.

If no-limit is what the poker players want, we'll probably wind up with the group splitting for the gaming sessions.
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April 12th, 2016 at 3:01:54 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

I suspect you are quite correct. The complication for a WoV gathering is that non-standard players, or even those (like me) who aren't really poker players at all, might join a limit game for the social aspects but wouldn't feel comfortable trying to play no-limit. I think that's why the Wizard set up a limit game at WoVCon I.

If no-limit is what the poker players want, we'll probably wind up with the group splitting for the gaming sessions.



1/2 no limit is probably less risky than the standard 2-4 limit game.

Just buy in for $50-$100.

Pick your spots. If someone is jamming pots preflop or something that's good for a short stack.

I doubt I would play limit it's like watching paint dry.

Also A NL game would provide entertainment watching guys like me and Romes get into a pissing match with big pots and marginal hands.

PS. I'm probably no attending anyway but I still think 1/2 NL is way better. NL shouldn't be feared to novice players.
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April 12th, 2016 at 4:51:14 PM permalink
Hopefully be able to make it for Saturday night at Main Street Station.

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April 13th, 2016 at 4:07:58 AM permalink
Getting aboard a plane in a couple of hours, so this may be my last update on an attendees list -- not sure how well I would do it from a phone, but I'll try if there's a need.

Friday
Doc + 1 (possibly 2 more)
PokerGrinder
Romes +2 (all tentative)
rdw4potus +1
Konbu
BlueEagle
WizardofNothing

Saturday
Doc + 1
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
rdw4potus +1
NicksGamingStuff
Konbu
BlueEagle
WizardofNothing
The Wizard (+1?)
MaxPen
TomG ?

Sunday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
BlueEagle
WizardofNothing

Monday
PokerGrinder
DJTeddyBear
Romes +2
Konbu
WizardofNothing
The Wizard
MaxPen
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April 13th, 2016 at 11:21:15 AM permalink
Just another hour at work and 4 more before my flight. I haven't thrown dice or gambled in over 8 months (feels like ages). I can't wait !
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April 13th, 2016 at 11:30:19 AM permalink
Can I get a volunteer who is going on Friday to make a dinner reservation for Saturday. I'd say party of 20, just to be safe.
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April 13th, 2016 at 11:42:12 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

...Also A NL game would provide entertainment watching guys like me and Romes get into a pissing match with big pots and marginal hands...

This WOULD/WILL happen...
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April 13th, 2016 at 12:32:57 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

This WOULD/WILL happen...

Ok. You twisted my arm. Let's do poker - 1/2 NL. Can someone local contact GN or B to reserve a table? Do it at shift change (3:00?) and it may be easier.
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April 13th, 2016 at 5:23:02 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Ok. You twisted my arm. Let's do poker - 1/2 NL. Can someone local contact GN or B to reserve a table? Do it at shift change (3:00?) and it may be easier.

On that note, I called GN and left a voicemail for the poker manager explains what we wanted to do.
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April 14th, 2016 at 8:54:10 AM permalink
If anyone needs a room last minute I ended up with 3
Also I have two extra tickets for Elton John Saturday
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April 14th, 2016 at 9:34:37 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Can I get a volunteer who is going on Friday to make a dinner reservation for Saturday. I'd say party of 20, just to be safe.


I'll take care of that. We are staying at MSS. I hadn't even thought about a reservation for Friday -- in the past, our pre-event gathering has been small enough that we've just winged it.
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April 14th, 2016 at 10:35:34 AM permalink
While you're at it, can you go to GN and ask about poker? They're not answering or returning phone calls.
Thanks
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April 14th, 2016 at 10:51:34 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

This WOULD/WILL happen...

Again I'm not sure if I can make it.

Approximately how much do you weigh?

No doubt you can match me shot per shot taking in account body weight.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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April 14th, 2016 at 11:01:17 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

While you're at it, can you go to GN and ask about poker? They're not answering or returning phone calls.
Thanks

I sent you a PM. I'm not sure who's running the poker room at Binion's (it keeps changing) hopefully its Brad. I have done this before with other groups. I can make a call but I want to make sure there's a solid commitment and fair amount of players and they will make sure there is a dealer available.

I wouldn't want them to make arrangements and then it be a no go and then have them not take me serious next time.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 14th, 2016 at 11:23:28 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

If anyone needs a room last minute I ended up with 3
Also I have two extra tickets for Elton John Saturday

Three weeks ago this would have been great! :)
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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April 14th, 2016 at 11:29:16 AM permalink
I put it out there over a month ago as well
No longer hiring, don’t ask because I won’t hire you either
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