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Buzzard
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July 20th, 2014 at 12:47:11 PM permalink
Mike's house, Mike's rules. DUH!
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LarryS
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July 20th, 2014 at 5:29:53 PM permalink
Quote: JimRockford

There is no need for analogies. The site is not a flea market or s store. It is not like a business. It IS a business. The advertisers provide the revenue and are therefore customers. We provide the traffic and some of us provide content, atmosphere, community, etc. that generate traffic. In short we bring value to the the sponsors. We are the product. Mike tries to shape the quality and characteristics of the product by moderating us. I don't contribute much, so I don't have much standing to bitch about how the site is moderated. Your complaints and criticisms have weight to the extent that your contributions support Mike's vision of site quality.



no need for analogies??? why because you declared it? Or is it because the analogies do not jive with your views?

Like a flea market that has alot of things for view....or consumption...so does this site as well.

I can consume the message boards, I can be a consumer of Bovada, of the Tshirts for sale, I can be a consumer of the hotel reviews, a consumer of the essays on gambling. In exchange my time is money, I donate my time on the message board a few minutes a day.

Without consumers of the message board, its a ghost town...the product(message board) is irrelevant....just as a flea market is irrelevant without consumers. The message board needs consumers in order for advertising to be sold. Zero cinsumers....means zero advertising.

no need for analogies???? why ? Just because you cant give a cogent response, does that make analogies unimportant to the discussion?
I guess so.

This is a place of business. If a worker in a place of business tells dumb blonde jokes for all to hear....its great for the advertisers who think blondes are dumb. Its great for the customers who think blondes are dumb. And its great for overseers who think the same.

And if blondes are fair game.....then jews, blacks,Polish the obese and ugly are part of the open season......but its at the discretion of board monitors and the owner.

I have a feeling if I told a joke on one of the above topics....I would be nuked

but isnt that what successful business is all about???.....consistent treatment and valuing of customers

without the above the business is doomed.

but then again we are not consumers....we are "products"......I see...that could answer alot of comments.
onenickelmiracle
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July 20th, 2014 at 5:40:58 PM permalink
Larry, you are majoring in the minors. Certainly there must be some little light bulb in your head telling you this all sounds familiar and you have a feeling you shouldn't be wasting your time. You opened here complaining about John Patrick booting you and you're on such thin ice, please stop this nonsense and stick to gambling areas you're contributing in. Cut out all the bull.
AxelWolf
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July 20th, 2014 at 6:46:39 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

I can be a consumer of Bovada

Yes but only once. I assume most people do that through the Odds site anyways.

Quote: LarryS

Tshirts for sale

Where are theses Tshirts you keep talking about, I don't see them blasting advertising in my face to buy Tshirts.

Quote: LarryS

I can be a consumer of the hotel reviews, a consumer of the essays

I don't think he gets anything for that but we get honest reviews for free.

Hes not blasting annoying advertising all over the this forum, it's clean and easy to use. We need to appreciate the quality.

I look at this site as more of a courtesy or perhaps just a hobby(yet he gets scrutinized for every thing he dose). Forums are a completely different animal then the traditional business. Perhaps he could do things a different way to make this site more profitable. Forgo the quality, kiss everyone's asses, let people say what they want and skirt the rules. 3 ring circus, filled with system bettors and serial agitators.

Even if it is a business, its not Burger king. I see no slogan, "have it your way." The customer is NOT always right, especially if they are acting a fool, customers need to be reasonable. The Wizard seems to be fair. Not every situation can be covered in a list of rules. Most people know if they are doing something that's frowned upon.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
LarryS
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July 20th, 2014 at 7:41:00 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Yes but only once. I assume most people do that through the Odds site anyways.

Where are theses Tshirts you keep talking about, I don't see them blasting advertising in my face to buy Tshirts.

I don't think he gets anything for that but we get honest reviews for free.

Hes not blasting annoying advertising all over the this forum, it's clean and easy to use. We need to appreciate the quality.

I look at this site as more of a courtesy or perhaps just a hobby(yet he gets scrutinized for every thing he dose). Forums are a completely different animal then the traditional business. Perhaps he could do things a different way to make this site more profitable. Forgo the quality, kiss everyone's asses, let people say what they want and skirt the rules. 3 ring circus, filled with system bettors and serial agitators.

Even if it is a business, its not Burger king. I see no slogan, "have it your way." The customer is NOT always right, especially if they are acting a fool, customers need to be reasonable. The Wizard seems to be fair. Not every situation can be covered in a list of rules. Most people know if they are doing something that's frowned upon.




I know its not burger king. Burger king is a successful business that treats its customers consistantly, in the same fashion. No games, no variations of rules for some and not others. This site would be a couretesy if they accepted no advertising. However this site is no more a courtesy as your local TV station that provides programming for no charge to you while hoping you view so that they can charge advertisers.

In either case, burger king, tv station XYZ, or a radio talk show,or a profit seeking message board.....all in the same boat...are a businesses that require consumers to drive their success.
JimRockford
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July 20th, 2014 at 8:48:39 PM permalink
Quote: LarryS

I know its not burger king. Burger king is a successful business that treats its customers consistantly, in the same fashion. No games, no variations of rules for some and not others. This site would be a couretesy if they accepted no advertising. However this site is no more a courtesy as your local TV station that provides programming for no charge to you while hoping you view so that they can charge advertisers.

In either case, burger king, tv station XYZ, or a radio talk show,or a profit seeking message board.....all in the same boat...are a businesses that require consumers to drive their success.

A radio talk show is best analogy I have seen offered although I don't see the benefit of talking about similar businesses when we can talk about this one . The listeners provide content and an audience and the show takes measures to shape the character of the show to satisfy the advertisers. Do they let anyone on to say whatever they want?
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July 20th, 2014 at 10:22:01 PM permalink
LarryS is nuked. I think we all know why.
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MrWarmth
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July 20th, 2014 at 10:42:24 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

LarryS is nuked. I think we all know why.



While it wouldn't be 100% correct for me to say I hate it when people are kicked off or even when wrong-doers are appropriately punished, this banning makes me happy. I haven't been around the forum all that long so I think (even if naively) that the folks here are more interested in discourse than in winning ... and may I say even some long-timers sell the forum short overall on this capacity. This banning does make me happy. LarryS was really the only one on here that was quick to assign motive. When he did so to me, about as wrongly and as out-of-the-blue-y as I think is humanly possible, it gave credence to Nareed's worries about the self-control of those on here. Now I see that, whatever the forum populace-at-large thinks about other banning/suspension decisions, I think Wizard got this one right. LarryS is free to be a child, but we are free to call him as such and not listen to his tantrums.

Well done, Wizard. Dicks are free to be dicks, but we don't have to abide them.
rainman
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July 20th, 2014 at 11:10:23 PM permalink
Right now LarryS is arguing about something somewhere with somebody.
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July 20th, 2014 at 11:30:58 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

LarryS is nuked. I think we all know why.



Thank you. The decision had to come from you.
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