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rob45
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:26:58 PM permalink
Why is ringstarfan making personal attacks in a foreign language and then accusing Beethoven of spamming?

Seems to me the spamming is being done by the individual violating rules 1, 12, and 14.
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:33:06 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

ringstarfan, I never called anyone an "a**hole" in English or Chinese.


I didn't write this either:


ringstarfan, the mods won't like what "贝多芬家伙头谁抽烟破解整天吸奇才家伙,以避免停牌" means.



Google translate gets the gist of it. Beethoven9th smokes crack and fellates Wiz to avoid suspension.

I'd say personal insult, but it's all relative I suppose. In a different culture that might be a compliment. In China, maybe. I don't know much about China, so the following is mere musing, a mind game. It could be that some Chinese consider crack a sacrament, and fellatio something you do as a favor for a friend.

But I think that is probably a stretch. It was probably meant as an insult.
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:40:28 PM permalink
Let's start insulting in Latin!!!

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October 26th, 2013 at 4:46:37 PM permalink
That dude's banned, whoever he was. I also locked that thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:48:37 PM permalink
One of the secret admins must have got him. I gave him 30 days, as that went WAY beyond Statler & Waldorf.
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:50:50 PM permalink
No, I got him, but I was just going to make it permanent. I believe we have all of the Baccarat system people we need, even if Gr8Player is the only one.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:53:35 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Let's start insulting in Latin!!!

Supprime tuum stultiloquium.



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October 26th, 2013 at 4:56:56 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca


I didn't write this either:
ringstarfan, the mods won't like what "贝多芬家伙头谁抽烟破解整天吸奇才家伙,以避免停牌" means.





My translation says 'you guys suck tomatoes'. I think Mission
over reacted..
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October 26th, 2013 at 4:57:44 PM permalink
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:02:05 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:21:38 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

No, I got him, but I was just going to make it permanent. I believe we have all of the Baccarat system people we need, even if Gr8Player is the only one.



So in other words your personal hatred for baccarat is the sole reason you are banning and locking anything baccarat. It has nothing to do with violating board rules or not.

Okay. Got it. That makes sense.
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:27:37 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

Google translate gets the gist of it. Beethoven9th smokes crack and fellates Wiz to avoid suspension.

I'd say personal insult, but it's all relative I suppose. In a different culture that might be a compliment. In China, maybe.


LOL
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:28:19 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

So in other words your personal hatred for baccarat is the sole reason you are banning and locking anything baccarat.


No, just the baccarat troll(s).
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:37:23 PM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

So in other words your personal hatred for baccarat is the sole reason you are banning and locking anything baccarat. It has nothing to do with violating board rules or not.

Okay. Got it. That makes sense.



No, my personal belief that he is another incarnation of Varmenti is the sole reason I am locking threads having to do with Baccarat systems in which a Member is causing trouble in the same way(s) Varmenti has been known to cause trouble.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:38:18 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

No, just the baccarat troll(s).



I definitely understand the reason behind banning the guy. I even understand that it should be a permanent ban for the language he used.

But why was the thread blocked ?
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:39:21 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

No, my personal belief that he is another incarnation of Varmenti is the sole reason I am locking threads having to do with Baccarat systems in which a Member is causing trouble in the same way(s) Varmenti has been known to cause trouble.



I respect your judgement, but couldnt his posts been deleted and the thread kept open ?
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:40:32 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

No, my personal belief that he is another incarnation of Varmenti is the sole reason I am locking threads having to do with Baccarat systems in which a Member is causing trouble in the same way(s) Varmenti has been known to cause trouble.



Varmenti is nuts. I was somewhat siding with him until his partner betting nonsense and the one to top it all off was that iPad 5 which now is the iPad Air was coming out on October 15th. Plus he was going to buy it on that day! I wonder if he bought one because I would be extremely impressed if he could.
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:41:22 PM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

I respect your judgement, but couldnt his posts been deleted and the thread kept open ?



I see that is your thread, not his, so I've gone ahead and unlocked it.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 26th, 2013 at 5:45:38 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I see that is your thread, not his, so I've gone ahead and unlocked it.



Thanks
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October 26th, 2013 at 7:06:00 PM permalink
I remember once waiting in line at Casino Niagara to go to a cashier and a chinese guy was at the front of the line. The people at the till were taking longer than usual and he grew impatient. Then some (probably drunk) Caucasian guy, not realizing that there was a line, just came and stood in front of him. A till opened, and the guy went to the till. The Chinese guy got so mad, he went up to him, and in his best English, said "Fuck you!" It was absolutely hilarious to see this what seemed to be polite Chinese guy completely lose his cool. Four years later, it's still a running joke between my wife and I. Yeah, my life is boring.
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October 26th, 2013 at 7:31:58 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

The Chinese guy got so mad, he went up to him, and in his best English, said "Fuck you!" It was absolutely hilarious to see this what seemed to be polite Chinese guy completely lose his cool.

Spice it up a little bit and ask the folks at your favorite Chinese restaurant just what "Fuk yu" means.
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October 26th, 2013 at 9:27:22 PM permalink
Just noticed that the mods wrote about ringstarfan's suspension in Chinese. LOL!!
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October 26th, 2013 at 9:45:54 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Just noticed that the mods wrote about ringstarfan's suspension in Chinese. LOL!!



A few of the mods here have personal Chinese connections.
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October 27th, 2013 at 6:30:19 AM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

Let's start insulting in Latin!!!

Supprime tuum stultiloquium.



Quote: Mosca

Mater tua tam obese est ut cum Romae est urbs habet octo colles.



Google translate doesnt do a good job [or each of you screwed it up]

I'm guessing, respectively, "you are so foolish!" and "your mother is as fat as Rome with its eight hills!"
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October 27th, 2013 at 3:35:37 PM permalink
Looks like we're dealing with a very creative troll. Varmenti...or, rather, his wife/girlfriend...is now a member.

I'm curious, did JerryLogan ever pose as his wife/girlfriend/family member to get around his ban? (I was a lurker for over a year before I finally registered, and while I do remember the JerryLogan saga, I wasn't following the forum as closely back then.)
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October 27th, 2013 at 3:50:23 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Google translate doesnt do a good job [or each of you screwed it up]

I'm guessing, respectively, "you are so foolish!" and "your mother is as fat as Rome with its eight hills!"



Mine is, "Yo mama is so fat, when she's in Rome it has eight hills!" I learned it a long time ago when my daughter took Latin, and I still had to look it up.
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October 30th, 2013 at 1:24:11 PM permalink
Ahigh is in red once more. SIGH
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October 30th, 2013 at 1:27:52 PM permalink
I noticed that but I wonder if it might be another of his voluntary suspensions? I didnt notice anything out of the ordinary recently that would prompt a suspension... but maybe I missed something?
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October 30th, 2013 at 1:29:22 PM permalink
Ahigh does not necessarily do anything out of the ordinary ( for him ) to get suspended.
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October 30th, 2013 at 1:30:16 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Ahigh does not necessarily do anything out of the ordinary ( for him ) to get suspended.



He resigned again voluntarily.
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October 30th, 2013 at 1:35:40 PM permalink
In all fairness to him... if he really wants to conduct research he should do it without discussing it here. Research should be void of opinioin -- and here we give opinions. Ahigh also gave his opinions which invalidated his research. By not being here if he really wants to do research he can do it the right way.
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October 30th, 2013 at 1:45:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

He resigned again voluntarily.



EXIT : Stage left.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:05:25 PM permalink
good thing it's not like the casinos where if you ban yourself, you can't change your mind
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:09:45 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

In all fairness to him... if he really wants to conduct research he should do it without discussing it here. .



The casinos are always researching Ahigh's BR and
he doesn't want to discuss the dwindling effects it's
having on it.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:11:07 PM permalink
Ahigh is a good guy. Not like that ragtag idiot varmenti.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:11:14 PM permalink
Research is always expensive. But if he does master dice setting, the reward will be great.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:12:57 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Research is always expensive. But if he does master dice setting, the reward will be great.



Dice setting is easy, it's dice landing that's the problem.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:15:04 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Ahigh is a good guy. Not like that ragtag IDIOT varmenti.



Lucky for you, the truth is not grounds for suspension.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:18:37 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Ahigh is a good guy. Not like that ragtag idiot varmenti.





It's all in the delivery
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:19:58 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Lucky for you, the truth is not grounds for suspension.


varmenti & his multiple incarnations got nuked, so we can say whatever we want now. *thumbs up*
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October 30th, 2013 at 4:33:46 PM permalink
Ahigh comes and goes so much his name should be changed to AhighByeHiAgain.


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October 30th, 2013 at 7:02:35 PM permalink
It's not a coincidence that Mustang Sally comes back
and Ahigh disappears. She was the one that busted
Ahigh on his BS math on craps when he first came
to WoV. She left because of him, and he knows she
made him look clueless.
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October 30th, 2013 at 7:41:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

... and he knows she
made him look clueless.



There's a long list of people that have done that.


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October 30th, 2013 at 7:50:40 PM permalink
Cops want you to respect their badge and authority,
plain and simple. Do that in a sincere way and it works
wonders. Don't ask them if they watch the show COPS,
don't make a donut joke, don't say anything unless
asked. It's really very easy.
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October 30th, 2013 at 7:54:45 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Cops want you to respect their badge and authority,
plain and simple. Do that in a sincere way and it works
wonders. Don't ask them if they watch the show COPS,
don't make a donut joke, don't say anything unless
asked. It's really very easy.



I'm pretty sure you just posted this to the wrong thread. Maybe past your bedtime??


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October 30th, 2013 at 8:12:41 PM permalink
edited
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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October 30th, 2013 at 8:21:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's not a coincidence that Mustang Sally comes back and Ahigh disappears. She was the one that busted Ahigh on his BS math on craps when he first came to WoV. She left because of him, and he knows she made him look clueless.


Maybe I should start reading the poster's names.... I seem to be missing all these subtle points.
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November 10th, 2013 at 7:47:51 AM permalink
I have a very specific question for the admins. A member got suspended in the past for saying this to another member:
Quote:

Awww how cute. Are you asking me on a date?

And the suspension occurred because the insinuation was that the target of the post was gay.




Well, here's a similar type of insinuation:
Quote: rxwine

Quote: Beethoven9th

Dems have a lock on the gay vote.

Yeah, it's too bad for the Republican party, as you'd probably have more voters. This guy is much like you.


https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/off-topic/15693-2016-election/20/#post288042

Here's my question. Since the first quote has been deemed worthy of a suspension, then what is the consensus on the quote directly above? (If the mods and/or the more objective members of this forum say that these 2 insinuations are in no way alike, then I'll be satisfied) Keep in mind though that I am not talking about gay accusations in general. I specifically want to compare the first (suspension-worthy) quote to the current quote.

Also, I do want to be clear about one thing. If you said to 100 straight guys, "This guy is much like you," and showed them a picture of, say, Liberace or another gay guy, then I think the overwhelming majority of them would take that statement to imply that they are gay, and you'd have a fight on your hands.
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November 10th, 2013 at 8:02:23 AM permalink
Skimming the link in question, the "much like you" part reads to me that the dude, well, is much like you. Many of the views you promote in the political threads are the same ones the gay man in rx's link promote.

The "argument post" that received a suspension was intended mockery at one's sexuality. rx's post was focused on political views. The fact that the man was gay was necessary to as it pertained to the particular argument y'all were engaged in - B9 says dems have the gay vote locked, rx shows they don't have all of the gay vote locked.

In my eyes, fair post.
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November 10th, 2013 at 8:04:34 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Skimming the link in question, the "much like you" part reads to me that the dude, well, is much like you. Many of the views you promote in the political threads are the same ones the gay man in rx's link promote.

The "argument post" that received a suspension was intended mockery at one's sexuality. rx's post was focused on political views. The fact that the man was gay was necessary to as it pertained to the particular argument y'all were engaged in - B9 says dems have the gay vote locked, rx shows they don't have all of the gay vote locked.

In my eyes, fair post.



Totally agree. The 'like you' part to me was about his political views, not his sexual preference.
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