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November 13th, 2015 at 2:07:36 PM permalink
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Ok I'll ask, why?



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November 13th, 2015 at 2:14:19 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Welcoming new members is the polite thing to do regardless of the color of their name. Some here need to learn that.



What about the expectations of how you might be treated in the future?

I mean, maybe you should be polite, but I'm not sure it's polite to even encourage some folks to stay when it gets right down to it.

This forum, well, I'm not even sure what the purpose of the forum is any more.

I used to think this was a forum for people who wanted to learn about gaming.

Now it seems that the vastness of the topics covered makes this forum sort of "I dare you to say anything to get people excited, because someone is going to get suspended."
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November 13th, 2015 at 2:16:22 PM permalink
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Welcoming new members is the polite thing to do regardless of the color of their name. Some here need to learn that.



Welcome, banebane...how about a few words of introduction so we can learn a bit about you?

Thanks!
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November 13th, 2015 at 2:18:41 PM permalink
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Did anyone catch the new name in green. I really hope it's someone from the new ownership.

Welcome, banebane!

to bad it wasn't ban e ban
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 13th, 2015 at 2:18:54 PM permalink
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Any odds on when a mod will figure out which banned member TGR is?

Always trying to make a buck, you can't help it can you? (Joke! )

If this is all the AP's can do, the best of which depends on which story is unearthed, at http://aarontodd.casinocitytimes.com/article/top-10-historical-player-advantage-plays-62592 , then winning say even a $25 contest is big news.

Gamblers and other guessers are losers. But it's definitely a blast to see who and which types of hold out the longest. My money's on the pothead.

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November 13th, 2015 at 2:25:32 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

What about the expectations of how you might be treated in the future?

I mean, maybe you should be polite, but I'm not sure it's polite to even encourage some folks to stay when it gets right down to it.

This forum, well, I'm not even sure what the purpose of the forum is any more.

I used to think this was a forum for people who wanted to learn about gaming.

Now it seems that the vastness of the topics covered makes this forum sort of "I dare you to say anything to get people excited, because someone is going to get suspended."

There's still plenty of talk about gambling just not craps so much, that's been discussed to death not much left to learn. People can just look though old threads.

I honestly don't see a big change other than less BS.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 13th, 2015 at 2:34:35 PM permalink
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Yes, still there perchance.

pee1

n., pl. pees for 1; pee for 2.
1. the letter p.
2. Brit. penny (def. 2).

pee2

Slang: Sometimes Vulgar.

verb (used without object), peed, peeing.
1. to urinate.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/peed
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/peed

Pee'd is in the Urban Dictionary? At any rate, I know the difference between might and may.


Might is like Superman, May comes after April?
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November 13th, 2015 at 3:14:41 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

What about the expectations of how you might be treated in the future?

I mean, maybe you should be polite, but I'm not sure it's polite to even encourage some folks to stay when it gets right down to it.

This forum, well, I'm not even sure what the purpose of the forum is any more.

I used to think this was a forum for people who wanted to learn about gaming.

Now it seems that the vastness of the topics covered makes this forum sort of "I dare you to say anything to get people excited, because someone is going to get suspended."



I was going to stay out of it but what the hey.

I'm appalled at the treatment you've been receiving here. To borrow someone's phrase it's "pot-stirring nonsense". In my opinion. Always my opinion. There are many game developers on this forum and they are all treated respectfully and even cheered on. I wonder what would happen if one of them were constantly excoriated.

I'm not referring to Zcore13 or anyone who engages in spirited discussion on the topic at hand. Passionate give and take is healthy and even productive. I'm referring to those who love to pile it on in the most cowardly fashion, people who don't know the first thing about any phase of gaming. We all know the type.

I'm picturing someone who is mad at the world. He sits in his man cave or basement in his underwear posting pot-stirring post after pot-stirring post in order to compensate for his own inadequacies. He wants everyone to be as miserable as he is.

He tells us over and over how great the good old days were and how great he is. His own family can't stand the sight of him so he stays cooped up with his dog.

The preceding was purely fictional and does not refer to any real person living or dead.
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November 13th, 2015 at 6:52:47 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I was going to stay out of it but what the hey.

I'm appalled at the treatment you've been receiving here. To borrow someone's phrase it's "pot-stirring nonsense". In my opinion. Always my opinion.

I'm picturing someone who is mad at the world. He sits in his man cave or basement in his underwear posting pot-stirring post after pot-stirring post in order to compensate for his own inadequacies. He wants everyone to be as miserable as he is.

He tells us over and over how great the good old days were and how great he is. His own family can't stand the sight of him so he stays cooped up with his dog.

The preceding was purely fictional and does not refer to any real person living or dead.



Typical bs nonsense out of you. Too afraid to say you mean EvenBob, but everyone can see he is who you are speaking of. Your little disclaimer is also typical. I believe others have also called you out for it before.

EB is a big man and can handle himself so why not just say how you feel about him? Instead you play your little games and wonder why you come across as you do.

I guess you get your jollies out of being the dogooder. But you have the same right to be here that I do, so carry on. I'm sure some get a good laugh out of it.
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November 13th, 2015 at 7:35:22 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Typical bs nonsense out of you. Too afraid to say you mean EvenBob, but everyone can see he is who you are speaking of. Your little disclaimer is also typical. I believe others have also called you out for it before.



Maybe he is thinking of us. Because if he did use Evenbob's name he would end up permanently embedded in the Hall of Shame. His favorite thing of all things.

I'm afraid I might hurt myself laughing if that ever happened.
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November 13th, 2015 at 9:13:38 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

Typical bs nonsense out of you. Too afraid to say you mean EvenBob, but everyone can see he is who you are speaking of. Your little disclaimer is also typical. I believe others have also called you out for it before.

EB is a big man and can handle himself so why not just say how you feel about him? Instead you play your little games and wonder why you come across as you do.

I guess you get your jollies out of being the dogooder. But you have the same right to be here that I do, so carry on. I'm sure some get a good laugh out of it.



Thank you so much for explaining my rights. I don't spend much time thinking about "big men". How does one determine who the big men are on the internet? Are you a big man? Is it a slow night at the bar? When's the next cheerleader rally?

Have a jolly good evening!
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November 13th, 2015 at 11:51:55 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Thank you so much for explaining my rights. I don't spend much time thinking about "big men". How does one determine who the big men are on the internet? Are you a big man? Is it a slow night at the bar? When's the next cheerleader rally?

Have a jolly good evening!

I didn't know what you guys are fighting about and don't care but....

I have meet Boz and he's definitely a man's man. So if that's a subject of debate he wins.

1BB you know dam well you're stoking the fire. Be a big man and stop the flames .
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 13th, 2015 at 11:58:24 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I don't spend much time thinking about "big men".



Well, I have. And based on my own experiences, shorter, smaller guys are usually the "bigger men". But that's probably a different discussion. LOL.
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November 14th, 2015 at 2:58:18 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Well, I have. And based on my own experiences, shorter, smaller guys are usually the "bigger men". But that's probably a different discussion. LOL.



Oh boy I think this conversation has crossed some kind of imaginary line.
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November 14th, 2015 at 3:23:08 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Oh boy I think this conversation has crossed some kind of imaginary line.



As soon as I posted big men I thought of the possibility of someone running with it. I've got a bunch of witty comebacks but I'm just going to say thanks for the chuckle, kewlj. I usually don't care for that type of joke but it was funny and I needed a break from the children.

Did I call anyone here a child? Maybe I'm home babysitting. Maybe I'm in front of the computer in my underwear and my dog is babysitting.
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November 14th, 2015 at 1:37:05 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I didn't know what you guys are fighting about and don't care but....

I have meet Boz and he's definitely a man's man. So if that's a subject of debate he wins.

1BB you know dam well you're stoking the fire. Be a big man and stop the flames .



As always, Axel, thank you for responding to my post. I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but my UltimateX machine froze with 10 cents still in it. Positive EV right? It took the attendant forever to get here. It looks as if you're displeased with me once again and that troubles me. You see, I really want you to like me.

Before we discuss what's bothering you this time, I'd like to thank you for verifying that our good friend, Boz, is a man's man. I don't know why you felt the need to do so because that was never called into question. Perhaps you just wanted the forum to know. I know there are big men here as evidenced by their posts where they are surrounded by women, whether said women were were paid or not. That's how you tell a big man right? I could have posed with that slot attendant but she didn't have her teeth in. That and the fact that I'm comfortable just as I am and don't feel the need to impress anyone on the internet or anywhere else.

May we discuss your unfounded allegations that I'm stoking the flames? Shouldn't you be speaking to those who started the fires? That certainly would not be me. Ask them why they respond negatively to my posts time after time. One refers to me as a dogooder. I take that bazaar comment as a compliment although it wasn't intended as such. Ask them why they hijack threads while adding nothing to them. Take a moment to go over my posts to see for yourself. It won't take long. Just yesterday I was baited for simply welcoming a new member to the forum.

Allow me to offer some remedial posting methods in lieu of character attacks, insults and baiting. I'll walk you through it. Don't worry, I'll be right here. It goes something like this. I make a post that you don't agree with. You respond with:

I disagree with you because.........

I think Ahigh is treated well here because.......

I think it's okay to trash a persons livelihood because.........

Kentry's 7 day suspension was deserved because........

I think the female body is pornographic because.......

Do you see how it works? Give it a try. It may not be easy but worthwhile things often are not easy.

The mammothrepts here will continue to do what they do best which is bring down the forum. The forum deserves better. With your help maybe we can improve things and show some respect for the owners of this site.

Once again my friend, I didn't start the fire. I don't do links due to the gotcha factor but someone please feel free to post that classic by Billy Joel. It's a great song.
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November 14th, 2015 at 1:56:33 PM permalink
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I don't do links due to the gotcha factor but someone please feel free to post that classic by Billy Joel. It's a great song.



Billy Joel.

"Fantasies and Delusions."
"The first track on Billy Joel's first classical album, Fantasies and Delusions, released in 2001. The tracks are performed by Richard Joo."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVY9Su4sdDc&list=PLDjntaJ75i2chElkxGEhVVp95XibtGMi-&feature=player_detailpage

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November 14th, 2015 at 2:09:50 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Billy Joel.

"Fantasies and Delusions."
"The first track on Billy Joel's first classical album, Fantasies and Delusions, released in 2001. The tracks are performed by Richard Joo."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVY9Su4sdDc&list=PLDjntaJ75i2chElkxGEhVVp95XibtGMi-&feature=player_detailpage

Dedicated to 1bb.



Another great post. Only 553 more for the thread to reach 8000. Can you do that by morning?
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November 14th, 2015 at 3:21:35 PM permalink
Quote: 1bb

May we discuss your unfounded allegations that I'm stoking the flames? Shouldn't you be speaking to those who started the fires?



It appears you are trying to "start fires" all the time.

https://wizardofvegas.com/quote/494954/
Quote: 1BB

The nonsense is accusing me of pot stirring when you don't like what you hear. I have every right to voice my opinion whether you like it or not. I take "pot-stirring nonsense" as a personal insult. Please suspend yourself.



https://wizardofvegas.com/quote/492077/
Quote: 1BB

I have always said no suspension and have not wavered. I reiterated that in the post you're referring to.

Remember, an offense against me is an offense against the entire forum. Insult away. It's okay with me...

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November 14th, 2015 at 4:25:22 PM permalink
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It appears you are trying to "start fires" all the time.

https://wizardofvegas.com/quote/494954/


https://wizardofvegas.com/quote/492077/



One day back from suspension and you're at it again. Did you dig up those quotes during your down time?

How about sticking your neck out and commenting on your own suspension or does that dancing cat have your tongue?

Speaking of the cat, it looks like it's naked. You might want to fix that just in case.

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November 14th, 2015 at 4:57:24 PM permalink
Wow - people need help
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November 14th, 2015 at 5:32:28 PM permalink
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Wow - people need help



Possibly, but if you let too many nuts accumulate in one place, it gunks up the works. There's a proper place for nuts. We don't need nut advocates. (No way I'll make it to 8000.)

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November 14th, 2015 at 5:59:40 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

One day back from suspension and you're at it again. Did you dig up those quotes during your down time?

How about sticking your neck out and commenting on your own suspension or does that dancing cat have your tongue?

Speaking of the cat, it looks like it's naked. You might want to fix that just in case.

Someone just told me that you're a dealer. Say no more.



Nah, I'm alright.
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November 14th, 2015 at 6:08:42 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

One day back from suspension and you're at it again. Did you dig up those quotes during your down time?

How about sticking your neck out and commenting on your own suspension or does that dancing cat have your tongue?

Speaking of the cat, it looks like it's naked. You might want to fix that just in case.

Someone just told me that you're a dealer. Say no more.


Maybe it's the frustration arguing with Singer and Mendelson on the latters forum. They should just let them be over there.
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November 14th, 2015 at 6:52:19 PM permalink
IBYA, not sure if you're posting there, but you gotta admit, the most valuable part of Rob's posts are due to the shock value: "Omg, did he REALLY just say that?"


1BB: So you said it yourself, you're okay with people insulting you and ask that no one be suspended if they insult you. Then you claimed something that was said to/about you was an insult and wanted that person to be suspended. And now you're claiming you don't "stoke the fire" nor "stir the pot"?

If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck...
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November 14th, 2015 at 7:06:17 PM permalink
Quote: RS

IBYA, not sure if you're posting there, but you gotta admit, the most valuable part of Rob's posts are due to the shock value: "Omg, did he REALLY just say that?"...


No way in hell I'm registering and posting there. Not worth it! It's highly entertaining though. Reminds me of this place back in the day.
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November 14th, 2015 at 8:10:51 PM permalink
Quote: RS

IBYA, not sure if you're posting there, but you gotta admit, the most valuable part of Rob's posts are due to the shock value: "Omg, did he REALLY just say that?"


1BB: So you said it yourself, you're okay with people insulting you and ask that no one be suspended if they insult you. Then you claimed something that was said to/about you was an insult and wanted that person to be suspended. And now you're claiming you don't "stoke the fire" nor "stir the pot"?

If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck...



Yes sir. I'm claiming that I don't stir the pot but you don't need my claim, just read my posts. If you hadn't gotten suspended we could have gone over this at the time it happened instead of rehashing old news now.

If you are attempting to curry favor here by engaging me, it's obviously not working. Perhaps you should try a different tack.

The incident you are referring to involved an administrator and administrators are or should be held to a higher standard. While I don't want anyone suspended it was a good opportunity to see how said administrator would handle the incident. We all saw didn't we? By the way, the other administrators treat me very well.

You keep returning to this thread but you aren't discussing the suspension list, something that you, of all people, should have plenty to say about.

When are you going to stand up for yourself and discuss your own suspension? A couple of people went to bat for you. Don't let them down.
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November 14th, 2015 at 8:34:11 PM permalink
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Wow - people need help



You decided to come here and give Kentry a break. That's mighty big of you and big is valued by some here. Why don't you leave him alone? We all get it. You don't like him. I know it will be difficult. Start by seeing if you can go a full day and take it from there.

You never know when an administrator will notice what you're doing. Without looking, how many times have you responded to him since he has joined the forum? How were you treated when you joined four short months ago? I hope you were treated well.
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November 14th, 2015 at 8:51:07 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

When are you going to stand up for yourself and discuss your own suspension? A couple of people went to bat for you. Don't let them down.



What would you like to discuss?
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November 14th, 2015 at 9:15:48 PM permalink
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What would you like to discuss?



Nothing. I Want you to discuss your suspension. That's what this thread is for. I guess you want me to spell it out for you so let me get you started.

Were you shocked by not only the suspension but the severity of it? Do you buy the Wizard's explanation? Did he take your comments the wrong way? Do you consider what you said to be an insult? Are you sorry you said it because EvenBob was offended? Do you think he was truly offended? Do you think there is uneven enforcement of the rules here? Do you think your next suspension should be 14 days?

That should get your mind off me for a while. I'm retiring for the evening. Enjoy yours!
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November 14th, 2015 at 10:35:27 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Nothing. I Want you to discuss your suspension. That's what this thread is for. I guess you want me to spell it out for you so let me get you started.

Were you shocked by not only the suspension but the severity of it? Do you buy the Wizard's explanation? Did he take your comments the wrong way? Do you consider what you said to be an insult? Are you sorry you said it because EvenBob was offended? Do you think he was truly offended? Do you think there is uneven enforcement of the rules here? Do you think your next suspension should be 14 days?

That should get your mind off me for a while. I'm retiring for the evening. Enjoy yours!


It's obvious that he didn't want to stir up more crap. He took his suspension like a man considering he didn't come back complaining, bi**hing, moaning and growing like people often do.

The Wizard has said before DON'T talk about peoples family. What's so hard about that to understand?

You're trying to stir the pot now. By encouraging someone to openly disagree with management. What good will come of it? Do you find it entertaining for someone to argue about their suspension either way? You want him to call out Mike?Perhaps he agreed with Mike but doesn't want to give Bob the satisfaction of taking about it.

yea yea I know you innocently just wanted him to "DISCUSS" it even if he did agree with everything. Not buying it 1BB considering how you mentioned people went to bat for him.

It's painfully obviously you want everyone to question managements decisions. That causes animosity among Mods and members.

It's not us VS them.

Lets fight the casinos not the moderators.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 14th, 2015 at 10:50:51 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

The Wizard has said before DON'T talk about peoples family. What's so hard about that to understand?



What is so hard to understand is that EvenBob brought up the discussion about his wife and living arrangement, therefore he 'opened' the door for comments. Furthermore EB had comments about your GF and situation. THAT is what makes RS''s suspension hard for me to understand.

Now, it is true that the discussion I am referring to was not in the same thread where RS made his comment, but that is clearly what he was eluding to.

So if someone (like wizard) didn't know of the other thread and just saw RS's comment, he might think the comment was inappropriate, but what it was in reference to, it's not that offensive IMO. I tried to point that out to wizard, but disappointedly, he seemed not to care about the facts.
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November 14th, 2015 at 11:33:52 PM permalink
Personally, I don't think I should have been suspended. But as I've said before -- it's not my forum and they aren't my rules. Mike did what he thought was best, I disagree with the decision, but life moves on. I still respect Mike, and I think he respects me as a person. No hard feelings. Why do you want to make such a big deal out of this? I'd rather just come back and keep posting like normal -- not continually attack the forum's admin team.

Some people "went to bat" for me (funny how "the WOV suspension lawyer" didn't). I appreciate. I think everyone who backed me up knows I appreciated it.

Would you like me to make a grandiose response or thread, thanking everyone who went to bat for me, and attack the admin(s) / Wizard? Will that make you happy, 1BB?
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November 14th, 2015 at 11:41:25 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

What is so hard to understand is that EvenBob brought up the discussion about his wife and living arrangement, therefore he 'opened' the door for comments. Furthermore EB had comments about your GF and situation. THAT is what makes RS''s suspension hard for me to understand.

Now, it is true that the discussion I am referring to was not in the same thread where RS made his comment, but that is clearly what he was eluding to.

So if someone (like wizard) didn't know of the other thread and just saw RS's comment, he might think the comment was inappropriate, but what it was in reference to, it's not that offensive IMO. I tried to point that out to wizard, but disappointedly, he seemed not to care about the facts.

So if you call your mom a bad word can I then do the same?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 14th, 2015 at 11:54:28 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Personally, I don't think I should have been suspended. But as I've said before -- it's not my forum and they aren't my rules. Mike did what he thought was best, I disagree with the decision, but life moves on. I still respect Mike, and I think he respects me as a person. No hard feelings. Why do you want to make such a big deal out of this? I'd rather just come back and keep posting like normal -- not continually attack the forum's admin team.

Some people "went to bat" for me (funny how "the WOV suspension lawyer" didn't). I appreciate. I think everyone who backed me up knows I appreciated it.

Would you like me to make a grandiose response or thread, thanking everyone who went to bat for me, and attack the admin(s) / Wizard? Will that make you happy, 1BB?



I'm going to thank you for making this response. So, thank you!

No need to reply.
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November 14th, 2015 at 11:59:52 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So if you call your mom a bad word can I then do the same?



What bad name did he call her? All he did was say she was happy with their arrangement, which is the exact same thing EB was saying all along.
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:04:23 AM permalink
Quote: kewlj

What bad name did he call her? All he did was say she was happy with their arrangement, which is the exact same thing EB was saying all along.

IIRC He was suggesting that Bobs wife didn't want to be near him.

It was not what he said it was what he was insinuating and his intentions.

RS wasn't trying to be nice.
EDIT:
Do you think RS was trying to insult Bob yes or no? If yes than you should believe it was a fair suspension.

Again DON'T use anyone's family unless its obviously complimentary
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:07:30 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

IIRC He was suggesting that Bobs wife didn't want to be near him.




Yeah...well they maintain separate residences. It's not that much of an assumption. Plus didn't EB basically say the same thing?
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November 15th, 2015 at 1:31:54 AM permalink
Can we resuspend rs since I didn't get a chance to print up "FREE RS" shirts
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November 15th, 2015 at 6:44:25 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Personally, I don't think I should have been suspended. But as I've said before -- it's not my forum and they aren't my rules. Mike did what he thought was best, I disagree with the decision, but life moves on. I still respect Mike, and I think he respects me as a person. No hard feelings. Why do you want to make such a big deal out of this? I'd rather just come back and keep posting like normal -- not continually attack the forum's admin team.

Some people "went to bat" for me (funny how "the WOV suspension lawyer" didn't). I appreciate. I think everyone who backed me up knows I appreciated it.

Would you like me to make a grandiose response or thread, thanking everyone who went to bat for me, and attack the admin(s) / Wizard? Will that make you happy, 1BB?



I'm going to give you partial credit for answering one question and you did it without crushing a single one of those eggshells that you so carefully walked on. You've made some comments and asked me some questions and I am more than happy to respond. I hope you don't mind if I jump around a bit as I do my best to cover them all.

This is not about making me happy but I thank you for your thoughtfulness. I am a very fulfilled and happy person and always have been. I am grateful for that every day and I never take it for granted.

I have no thoughts on whether you should thank those who went to bat for you. It would be a nice gesture but it is entirely up to you. I did not go to bat for you for a couple of reasons, one being that I got the uneasy feeling that I may have been baited.

I am not making a big deal out of anything. I'm merely posting my thoughts and opinions in this thread while staying on the subject of the thread. Can you honestly say the same?

You are not posting "like normal". You, sir, are attempting to stir the pot. In my opinion. It is not normal to respond to my posts in the manner that you have been. In my opinion. Perhaps you are trying to find your niche here. Perhaps the circle the wagons crowd would be a good fit for you. Maybe they will support you like they did while you served your suspension or maybe they will lead you down a dark road.

I'm thrilled that you think that Mike respects you as a person. That's definitely something that you can use on your resume for your next dealing job. The extra long suspension must have been a tough love type of thing. Stockholm Syndrome anyone?

Finally, I find referring to me as a lawyer extremely insulting. :-) Sorry ace, MrV, et al. It was a joke. See the childish smiley face that makes it okay? Actually those guys are the ones who should be insulted. That's called self deprecation. Not taking yourself too seriously can be a good thing. Try it.
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November 15th, 2015 at 7:13:43 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I'm thrilled that you think that Mike respects you as a person. That's definitely something that you can use on your resume for your next dealing job. The extra long suspension must have been a tough love type of thing. Stockholm Syndrome anyone?

I wonder what dealers are making what these days. Maybe he's an AP dealer.
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November 15th, 2015 at 8:31:03 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

As always, Axel, thank you for responding to my post. I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but my UltimateX machine froze with 10 cents still in it. Positive EV right? It took the attendant forever to get here. It looks as if you're displeased with me once again and that troubles me. You see, I really want you to like me.

Before we discuss what's bothering you this time, I'd like to thank you for verifying that our good friend, Boz, is a man's man. I don't know why you felt the need to do so because that was never called into question. Perhaps you just wanted the forum to know. I know there are big men here as evidenced by their posts where they are surrounded by women, whether said women were were paid or not. That's how you tell a big man right? I could have posed with that slot attendant but she didn't have her teeth in. That and the fact that I'm comfortable just as I am and don't feel the need to impress anyone on the internet or anywhere else.

May we discuss your unfounded allegations that I'm stoking the flames? Shouldn't you be speaking to those who started the fires? That certainly would not be me. Ask them why they respond negatively to my posts time after time. One refers to me as a dogooder. I take that bazaar comment as a compliment although it wasn't intended as such. Ask them why they hijack threads while adding nothing to them. Take a moment to go over my posts to see for yourself. It won't take long. Just yesterday I was baited for simply welcoming a new member to the forum.

Allow me to offer some remedial posting methods in lieu of character attacks, insults and baiting. I'll walk you through it. Don't worry, I'll be right here. It goes something like this. I make a post that you don't agree with. You respond with:

I disagree with you because.........

I think Ahigh is treated well here because.......

I think it's okay to trash a persons livelihood because.........

Kentry's 7 day suspension was deserved because........

I think the female body is pornographic because.......

Do you see how it works? Give it a try. It may not be easy but worthwhile things often are not easy.

The mammothrepts here will continue to do what they do best which is bring down the forum. The forum deserves better. With your help maybe we can improve things and show some respect for the owners of this site.

Once again my friend, I didn't start the fire. I don't do links due to the gotcha factor but someone please feel free to post that classic by Billy Joel. It's a great song.

Excellent!

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November 15th, 2015 at 8:43:59 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It's obvious that he didn't want to stir up more crap. He took his suspension like a man considering he didn't come back complaining, bi**hing, moaning and growing like people often do.

The Wizard has said before DON'T talk about peoples family. What's so hard about that to understand?

You're trying to stir the pot now. By encouraging someone to openly disagree with management. What good will come of it? Do you find it entertaining for someone to argue about their suspension either way? You want him to call out Mike?Perhaps he agreed with Mike but doesn't want to give Bob the satisfaction of taking about it.

yea yea I know you innocently just wanted him to "DISCUSS" it even if he did agree with everything. Not buying it 1BB considering how you mentioned people went to bat for him.

It's painfully obviously you want everyone to question managements decisions. That causes animosity among Mods and members.

It's not us VS them.

Lets fight the casinos not the moderators.



Axel, Axel, Axel. What are we going to do with you? Half the time I can't tell if you're trying to improve things or make them worse. I have no problem understanding anything except maybe some very advanced and meaningless math that would get me an extra penny or two on a secret slot machine at an undisclosed location. Even then I'd still need the secret handshake.

As far as your moaning and growing comment, the only things I see growing are the noses of a few of the real pot stirrers and their back slapping cronies.

Yes, I admit that I find this thread entertaining and from the looks of things I'm not alone. More than that, I find it very enlightening.

One thing we have come to count on from these fine folks is the hyperbole. It's all about the spin and true to form they never disappoint. I never said that I wanted anyone to call out Mike but there you are planting the suggestion by asking me that very question. Perhaps this. Perhaps that. Capital letters. Quotes around certain words. I guess you Vegas types feel a certain bond, real or imagined, but jeez.

Since we're such good friends can you do me a solid? Can you re post the photo of the naked woman on the balcony. You know, the one where she's looking out over the Vegas Strip. I assure you that I ask for academic reasons only. Think of the extra cred that you'll get. Win win.
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November 15th, 2015 at 8:44:59 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB


I have no thoughts on whether you should thank those who went to bat for you. It would be a nice gesture but it is entirely up to you. I did not go to bat for you for a couple of reasons, one being that I got the uneasy feeling that I may have been baited.



So much drama on this site anymore. I can't even keep up with most of it and really don't desire to.

But, I will say, as one of those that "seemingly" went to bat for RS, no need to thank or acknowledge me. I didn't do so because of him. Hell, I don't even like him all that much, ever since he was very mean to me in one of the tipping threads. :) I spoke up because it seems like a bit of a mis-justice and even more than that it seemed like maybe Mike wasn't taking into consideration the related thread that these comments grew from. Sort of a "taking it out of context" thing.
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November 15th, 2015 at 10:40:41 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

Can we resuspend rs since I didn't get a chance to print up "FREE RS" shirts


FREE RS

... other letters are $1.99 each ...
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November 15th, 2015 at 10:50:15 AM permalink
Quote: djatc

Can we resuspend rs since I didn't get a chance to print up "FREE RS" shirts



Too bad buzz isn't here. He could have handled that request for you.
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November 15th, 2015 at 11:55:17 AM permalink
Hey 1BB, no disclaimer. That's an insult. See here:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/las-vegas-casinos/riviera/24172-greetings-now-lets-try-to-save-the-riv/3/#post496175

You know how I know it's an insult. Just apply as if you were talking about Zuga.

The last two lines are the kickers.

Yup, insults directed at the forum have had bans applied.

If they don't give you a ban, it's only out of the goodness of their collective hearts. Since it's a no insult rule.
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:08:38 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Hey 1BB, no disclaimer. That's an insult. See here:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/las-vegas-casinos/riviera/24172-greetings-now-lets-try-to-save-the-riv/3/#post496175

You know how I know it's an insult. Just apply as if you were talking about Zuga.

The last two lines are the kickers.

Yup, insults directed at the forum have had bans applied.

If they don't give you a ban, it's only out of the goodness of their collective hearts. Since it's a no insult rule.



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November 15th, 2015 at 12:18:43 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

We definitely have some bitter old men here but the folks who have responded to this thread are good guys. When the bitter old men respond you'll know it. I hear they sit in front of the computer all day in their underwear and haven't left the basement in years. Very bitter.



Quote: 1BB

Attacking the bitterness not the men. Keep trying. It's a medical condition. Nothing to be ashamed of.



1BB, I am not sure why but you seem to have taken a bit of a "heel turn" towards being nasty. These comments aren't like your previous defenses of everyone ever suspended; these are nasty and seem beneath the previous standards for your posts.

Why?
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November 15th, 2015 at 12:19:59 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Attacking the bitterness not the men. Keep trying. It's a medical condition. Nothing to be ashamed of.



Quote:

When the bitter old men respond you'll know it. I hear they sit in front of the computer all day in their underwear and haven't left the basement in years. Very bitter.



Insult. Spin away. It's only 'cause they're nice if they don't give you a ban. Only reason.
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