Discussion III about the Suspension List
Quote: MDawgYeah, I didn't think so. I guess you're scared of a few day suspension as if it were Dante's Inferno.
Meantime, who filed this complaint?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/96/#post941535
and others against me where the only logical conclusion would be AxelWolf, "admit that you complain every chance you can get on everything that hurts your feelings."
The fact that you mention "feelings" - admit that you complain every chance you can get on everything that hurts your feelings - leads me to believe that may well be your motive in all the complaints you have ostensibly filed.
I don't believe that is the case with complaints filed by others, they might just be part of the WOV suspension game with no particular hard or other feelings in mind.
I'd say that the problem, if there is one, is not the suspension, but taking the suspension personally. That doesn't mean it is not okay to complain about an unjustified suspension, but do so analytically, coolly, not emotionally.
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What he is saying Axel, is you should file an official grievance so he can copy and paste it into dozens of future post where he discusses you.
Blah blah blah. Bro doesn't a supposed super duper wealthy, high-rolling, jet-setting Rolex having a guy like yourself have more to do than sit and wait with bated breath to respond to EVERYONE on all the gambling forums? I admit, I'm in limbo and not doing much since I got back from my long trip.Quote: MDawgYeah, I didn't think so. I guess you're scared of a few day suspension as if it were Dante's Inferno.
Meantime, who filed this complaint?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/96/#post941535
and others against me where the only logical conclusion would be AxelWolf, "admit that you complain every chance you can get on everything that hurts your feelings."
The fact that you mention "feelings" - admit that you complain every chance you can get on everything that hurts your feelings - leads me to believe that may well be your motive in all the complaints you have ostensibly filed.
I don't believe that is the case with complaints filed by others, they might just be part of the WOV suspension game with no particular hard or other feelings in mind.
I'd say that the problem, if there is one, is not the suspension, but taking the suspension personally. That doesn't mean it is not okay to complain about an unjustified suspension, but do so analytically, coolly, not emotionally.
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I have just been doing repairs on my place and hanging out with My Wife, animals, and cute as-hell doggie at home.
At least most of the time while im on the forums... I'm Playing online making money via Sports, blackjack, poker, slots, etc. And oftentimes watching some sports. Today it's OLE MISS VS FLORIDA 14-7 I think I dont do much college football, but I have the first half over on this game so im half-heartedly watching.
ROFLMAOQuote: darkozQuote: MDawgYeah, I didn't think so. I guess you're scared of a few day suspension as if it were Dante's Inferno.
Meantime, who filed this complaint?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/96/#post941535
and others against me where the only logical conclusion would be AxelWolf, "admit that you complain every chance you can get on everything that hurts your feelings."
The fact that you mention "feelings" - admit that you complain every chance you can get on everything that hurts your feelings - leads me to believe that may well be your motive in all the complaints you have ostensibly filed.
I don't believe that is the case with complaints filed by others, they might just be part of the WOV suspension game with no particular hard or other feelings in mind.
I'd say that the problem, if there is one, is not the suspension, but taking the suspension personally. That doesn't mean it is not okay to complain about an unjustified suspension, but do so analytically, coolly, not emotionally.
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What he is saying Axel, is you should file an official grievance so he can copy and paste it into dozens of future post where he discusses you.
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Quote: AxelWolfBro doesn't a supposed super duper wealthy, high-rolling, jet-setting Rolex having a guy like yourself have more to do than sit and wait with bated breath to respond to EVERYONE on all the gambling forums? I admit, I'm in limbo and not doing much since I got back from my long trip.
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At the end of the day, you're still not showing us anything. Other than that you're not willing to own your words.
Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfBro doesn't a supposed super duper wealthy, high-rolling, jet-setting Rolex having a guy like yourself have more to do than sit and wait with bated breath to respond to EVERYONE on all the gambling forums? I admit, I'm in limbo and not doing much since I got back from my long trip.
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At the end of the day, you're still not showing us anything. Other than that you're not willing to own your words.
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That quote in the image seems to be from TigerWu, not Axelwolf.
You be delaying, you always saying some @#$%
You say I'm playin', I'm never layin' the @#$%
Saying, "Blah, blah, blah"
'Cause I don't care who you are in this bar
It only matters who I is....
Quote: gordonm888None of this is "discussion about the suspension list."
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It's usually about the suspension list 10% of the time, how is this in any different.
This was brought to my attention.Quote: WizardQuote: HunterhillA certain poster has pmd me asking for more specific details about my meeting kewlj i am not going to give out more details about it because it will just be used for more nasty attacks on the other site. I certainly wouldn’t give you his physical description.
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Disclosing private messages is one of the greater WoV sins. I'll consider that the message was paraphrased and the sender anonymous (*ahem*) in my sentence -- one week suspension.
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Here is the full post/thread there https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...kj/#post619581Quote: WizardAlthough Kewlj is no longer a member here, I will not let this forum be used as a place to disseminate personal information about him, whether correct or not, nor to assist in finding him.]
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"A certain poster has pmd me asking for more specific details about my meeting kewlj i am not going to give out more details about it because it will just be used for more nasty attacks on the other site. I certainly wouldn’t give you his physical description."
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
Quote: odiousgambitI was thinking about Mission today
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
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I had suggested that like 100 Posters pay like $10 to raise the $1,000 debt for Mission and have his debt cleared that way and he would be reinstated and this would be a one time get out of jail free courtesy eif he ever did a money game like this and didn't pay, it would be a permanent banning. 💡🤔 I got zero takers to my suggestion. ☢️
Quote: NathanQuote: odiousgambitI was thinking about Mission today
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
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I had suggested that like 100 Posters pay like $10 to raise the $1,000 debt for Mission and have his debt cleared that way and he would be reinstated and this would be a one time get out of jail free courtesy eif he ever did a money game like this and didn't pay, it would be a permanent banning. 💡🤔 I got zero takers to my suggestion. ☢️
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I support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm thinking Mission doesn't want to come back. I'm thinking something or someone pissed him off and this is more of a FU situation.
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Probably couldn't take the dog (ahem) and pony show any longer
Quote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: odiousgambitI was thinking about Mission today
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
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I had suggested that like 100 Posters pay like $10 to raise the $1,000 debt for Mission and have his debt cleared that way and he would be reinstated and this would be a one time get out of jail free courtesy eif he ever did a money game like this and didn't pay, it would be a permanent banning. 💡🤔 I got zero takers to my suggestion. ☢️
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I support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
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Someone makes a bet they can't afford and loses and can't pay and somebody suggests we pay for it? You got to be joking. That's called being an enabler and I don't want any part of it.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: odiousgambitI was thinking about Mission today
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
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I had suggested that like 100 Posters pay like $10 to raise the $1,000 debt for Mission and have his debt cleared that way and he would be reinstated and this would be a one time get out of jail free courtesy eif he ever did a money game like this and didn't pay, it would be a permanent banning. 💡🤔 I got zero takers to my suggestion. ☢️
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I support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
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Someone makes a bet they can't afford and loses and can't pay and somebody suggests we pay for it? You got to be joking. That's called being an enabler and I don't want any part of it.
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Mission146 has been a trusted and valuable Poster for YEARS. It's not like he was a scamming Newbie who screwed over WOV financially. IIRC, Juicy Jennie did something similar. She borrowed money from WOV Posters and then NEVER paid the money back, running off with the money (Committed THEFT, a HUGE no no. ☢️ and got permanently banned. ☢️ Mission is no Juicy Jennie, he's someone who is HIGHLY trusted and valuable that we should support with just $10 a Poster. I mean, a LOT of Posters plop down $10 a single GAME in Casinos, why not help Mission with $10? 💡
Quote: NathanQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: odiousgambitI was thinking about Mission today
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
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I had suggested that like 100 Posters pay like $10 to raise the $1,000 debt for Mission and have his debt cleared that way and he would be reinstated and this would be a one time get out of jail free courtesy eif he ever did a money game like this and didn't pay, it would be a permanent banning. 💡🤔 I got zero takers to my suggestion. ☢️
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I support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
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Someone makes a bet they can't afford and loses and can't pay and somebody suggests we pay for it? You got to be joking. That's called being an enabler and I don't want any part of it.
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Mission146 has been a trusted and valuable Poster for YEARS. It's not like he was a scamming Newbie who screwed over WOV financially. IIRC, Juicy Jennie did something similar. She borrowed money from WOV Posters and then NEVER paid the money back, running off with the money (Committed THEFT, a HUGE no no. ☢️ and got permanently banned. ☢️ Mission is no Juicy Jennie, he's someone who is HIGHLY trusted and valuable that we should support with just $10 a Poster. I mean, a LOT of Posters plop down $10 a single GAME in Casinos, why not help Mission with $10? 💡
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Starting today, I will donate twenty-five cents for every day you don't post. I'm sure I can find one or two others who agree. At seventy-five cents a day, it's less than a year of abstaining. You can save Missions' reputation and see that his victims are made whole without using a dime of your money.
That seems like a win -win to me. Step up and make a difference.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm thinking Mission doesn't want to come back. I'm thinking something or someone pissed him off and this is more of a FU situation.
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I actually don't think anyone here pissed Mission off - my impression is that all of his relationships behind the scenes are still intact.
My guess is that something has changed in his private life - like maybe he has a romantic relationship that is important to him. I'd like to think he's happier now than he was in the past. I hope he is.
Mission used to spend a lot of time on WOV forums. For many people, social media turns out to be a season in their life -they're a bit obsessive about it for a while, and then their life changes and they turn the page.
Quote: darkozI support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
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After paying me and paying Wizard to watch me win, why get particular?
Quote: billryanQuote: NathanQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: NathanQuote: odiousgambitI was thinking about Mission today
he was always ready to help you with any gambling math, did so many times for me anyway. I think I got spoiled and didn't realize how much it is asking to do it for free like that.
so am I starting the drumbeat to 'free Mission146' ? I guess not since I don't see any way to advocate that till he pays the people he promised to award money.
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I had suggested that like 100 Posters pay like $10 to raise the $1,000 debt for Mission and have his debt cleared that way and he would be reinstated and this would be a one time get out of jail free courtesy eif he ever did a money game like this and didn't pay, it would be a permanent banning. 💡🤔 I got zero takers to my suggestion. ☢️
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I support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
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Someone makes a bet they can't afford and loses and can't pay and somebody suggests we pay for it? You got to be joking. That's called being an enabler and I don't want any part of it.
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Mission146 has been a trusted and valuable Poster for YEARS. It's not like he was a scamming Newbie who screwed over WOV financially. IIRC, Juicy Jennie did something similar. She borrowed money from WOV Posters and then NEVER paid the money back, running off with the money (Committed THEFT, a HUGE no no. ☢️ and got permanently banned. ☢️ Mission is no Juicy Jennie, he's someone who is HIGHLY trusted and valuable that we should support with just $10 a Poster. I mean, a LOT of Posters plop down $10 a single GAME in Casinos, why not help Mission with $10? 💡
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Starting today, I will donate twenty-five cents for every day you don't post. I'm sure I can find one or two others who agree. At seventy-five cents a day, it's less than a year of abstaining. You can save Missions' reputation and see that his victims are made whole without using a dime of your money.
That seems like a win -win to me. Step up and make a difference.
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Billryan, you are being mean to me. I don't like your post at all. 😫
Quote: MDawgQuote: darkozI support him coming back but I'm not paying for it.
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After paying me and paying Wizard to watch me win, why get particular?
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I paid for information.
I'm not paying someone else's debts.
I will pay a $1000 for a rare comic book I want but won't spend a dime on a stick of gum I don't like.
Quote: NathanSza's Suspension ended yesterday and he or she is still Suspended. 💡
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Quote: DieterQuote: NathanSza's Suspension ended yesterday and he or she is still Suspended. 💡
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How is someone with a credit supposed to remind mods once they are suspended and they're communication is turned off.
Really the credit function needs to be fixed here
Quote: darkozQuote: DieterQuote: NathanSza's Suspension ended yesterday and he or she is still Suspended. 💡
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How is someone with a credit supposed to remind mods once they are suspended and they're communication is turned off.
Really the credit function needs to be fixed here
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That is a really good question.
Mods are supposed to notice the credit due, and adjust when the suspension goes into effect.
Members who are also on DT can often PM an admin via that channel.
If you happen to have another back-channel way of contacting a mod, I'd suggest that. Either emailing an admin, or emailing a friend and having them PM an admin has worked in the past.
Officially, Wizard has a public email address, but I think he may only read it once a week, so the timing may be inconvenient.
Quote: DieterQuote: NathanSza's Suspension ended yesterday and he or she is still Suspended. 💡
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What does that mean? They can half insult someone with no penalty?
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: DieterQuote: NathanSza's Suspension ended yesterday and he or she is still Suspended. 💡
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What does that mean? They can half insult someone with no penalty?
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A prior suspension was inadvertently extended beyond the initial term, and this has been noted on the Wall of Shame list.
Quote: darkozQuote: DieterQuote: ChumpChangeParis Hilton's beachfront home in Malibu has been reduced to a pile of burning rubble ... TMZ has learned.
Sources familiar with the situation tell us her beach house is completely gone after being burned to a crisp in the devastating Palisades fire.
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I'm assuming this was meant for the LA fire thread.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/39797-live-la-fire-stream/#post946016
Take a few days off, and remember to be deliberate in your posting.
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If it was an honest mistake which seems the case since there is currently a fire thread should he really be banned?
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Unfortunately, our friend ChumpChange has done a lot of hijacking in the past. Inadvertent or otherwise, 3 days on the read-only is a "friendly reminder" to check which thread is being posted in.
I'm sure we'll hear from him again, soon enough.
Quote: Dieter
Unfortunately, our friend ChumpChange has done a lot of hijacking in the past. Inadvertent or otherwise, 3 days on the read-only is a "friendly reminder" to check which thread is being posted in.
I'm sure we'll hear from him again, soon enough.
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Check his eyesight.
Quote: rxwineQuote: Dieter
Unfortunately, our friend ChumpChange has done a lot of hijacking in the past. Inadvertent or otherwise, 3 days on the read-only is a "friendly reminder" to check which thread is being posted in.
I'm sure we'll hear from him again, soon enough.
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Check his eyesight.
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That is not a service we offer at this time.
Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.
A ban has been issued on your IP address.
Message I got while randomly surfing over to Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum tonight. I've never logged in there, never had an account. I have looked in there in the past and found half the place locked down. Not sure if it's for anything I've done, but about all I've done has been here. So if some Admin is sharing IP addresses with other sites, that's a new one. Maybe he is just banning lurkers and, well, you have to appeal. I had no real motivation to pay to be part of Heavy's website. Maybe he just hates my ISP.
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Message I got while randomly surfing over to Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum tonight. I've never logged in there, never had an account. I have looked in there in the past and found half the place locked down. Not sure if it's for anything I've done, but about all I've done has been here. So if some Admin is sharing IP addresses with other sites, that's a new one. Maybe he is just banning lurkers and, well, you have to appeal. I had no real motivation to pay to be part of Heavy's website. Maybe he just hates my ISP.
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I recently got a similar notice when I tried to sign into videpoker.com. I signed out and back in, and everything was fine.
Quote: ChumpChangeYou have been permanently banned from this board.
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Message I got while randomly surfing over to Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum tonight. I've never logged in there, never had an account. I have looked in there in the past and found half the place locked down. Not sure if it's for anything I've done, but about all I've done has been here. So if some Admin is sharing IP addresses with other sites, that's a new one. Maybe he is just banning lurkers and, well, you have to appeal. I had no real motivation to pay to be part of Heavy's website. Maybe he just hates my ISP.
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It looks like their "welcome to the forum" intro page may be set to show this.
I wouldn't worry much. They locked me out from browsing too. (I doubt it's because they know I can't stand craps; they probably lockdown for everyone without an account.)
Quote: ChumpChangeYou have been permanently banned from this board.
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Message I got while randomly surfing over to Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum tonight. I've never logged in there, never had an account. I have looked in there in the past and found half the place locked down. Not sure if it's for anything I've done, but about all I've done has been here. So if some Admin is sharing IP addresses with other sites, that's a new one. Maybe he is just banning lurkers and, well, you have to appeal. I had no real motivation to pay to be part of Heavy's website. Maybe he just hates my ISP.
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I do understand some healthy level of paranoia given the crazy world we live in, but the administrators of this site are not part of some shadowy cabal that secretly runs the world. Based on much evidence, I firmly believe that the Wizard is a HIGHLY ethical person - and I suspect many other forum members would attest to the same opinion. Dieter and I are volunteers trying to deal with all sorts of crap in our personal lives while we soldier on in our WOV forum moderator roles in an honorable way. I don't believe that any WOV administrator would act outside of our forum with malice against any of our forum members. Indeed, IMO quite the opposite is true.
Peace. And Happy New Year.
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Message I got while randomly surfing over to Heavy's Axis Power Craps Forum tonight. I've never logged in there, never had an account. I have looked in there in the past and found half the place locked down. Not sure if it's for anything I've done, but about all I've done has been here. So if some Admin is sharing IP addresses with other sites, that's a new one. Maybe he is just banning lurkers and, well, you have to appeal. I had no real motivation to pay to be part of Heavy's website. Maybe he just hates my ISP.
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Bolding in above quote added by administrator (me).
I do understand some healthy level of paranoia given the crazy world we live in, but the administrators of this site are not part of some shadowy cabal that secretly runs the world. Based on much evidence, I firmly believe that the Wizard is a HIGHLY ethical person - and I suspect many other forum members would attest to the same opinion. Dieter and I are volunteers trying to deal with all sorts of crap in our personal lives while we soldier on in our WOV forum moderator roles in an honorable way. I don't believe that any WOV administrator would act outside of our forum with malice against any of our forum members. Indeed, IMO quite the opposite is true.
Peace. And Happy New Year.
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Speaking strictly for myself, I can barely be bothered to extract IP addresses for necessary administrivial tasks. I'm too busy to delight in abusing admin privileges to antagonize people elsewhere. These naps do not take themselves.
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There are sites that subscribe to lists of VPN and Tor exits and ban all people using them. When I lived in a place with a lot of up and down bandwidth I ran a Tor exit out of my house, and as a result my personal traffic was banned from a surprising number of places.
That is behavior I consider to be be unethical and criminally suspicious. Why is it so important that this site operator know anything about my physical location? What is he going to do with that information?
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There are sites that subscribe to lists of VPN and Tor exits and ban all people using them. When I lived in a place with a lot of up and down bandwidth I ran a Tor exit out of my house, and as a result my personal traffic was banned from a surprising number of places.
That is behavior I consider to be be unethical and criminally suspicious. Why is it so important that this site operator know anything about my physical location? What is he going to do with that information?
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From the other side, a lot of nuisance posts come from people masquerading via Tor or VPN. A preemptive ban often improves the signal to noise ratio, with minimal administrative cost. Little of value is lost, while excluding much negative value.
I wouldn't care where you are, just that 88+% of the traffic I see from the IP you are using is a nuisance, and I elect to err on the side of paranoia and preempt it all.
1. A new member named jjhons posted about a somewhat interesting topic, namely new software making it easier to monetize video games online such that players can actually play and win or lose crypto or cash - potentially without the oversight of gambling regulatory entities.
2. jjhons interacted with members in a fairly normal way, but was challenged by members as to whether he was an AI bot or not. jjhons responded by admitting that he had used AI to improve parts of the text of his post because English is not his native language.
3. At that point, moderators initially nuked jjhons for posting an AI enhanced message, but we have temporarily unbanned him while we try to consider what our policy is. Technically, an app like Grammarly uses AI, so is the use of Grammarly for innocuous changes in grammar or in wording a violation of forum policy? None of us want messages generated by AI bots, but where do we draw the line? We're discussing this in the moderator backroom.
Quote: gordonm888In the thread titled "Roblox Online Gambling" we had the following situation occur:
1. A new member named jjhons posted about a somewhat interesting topic, namely new software making it easier to monetize video games online such that players can actually play and win or lose crypto or cash - potentially without the oversight of gambling regulatory entities.
2. jjhons interacted with members in a fairly normal way, but was challenged by members as to whether he was an AI bot or not. jjhons responded by admitting that he had used AI to improve parts of the text of his post because English is not his native language.
3. At that point, moderators initially nuked jjhons for posting an AI enhanced message, but we have temporarily unbanned him while we try to consider what our policy is. Technically, an app like Grammarly uses AI, so is the use of Grammarly for innocuous changes in grammar or in wording a violation of forum policy? None of us want messages generated by AI bots, but where do we draw the line? We're discussing this in the moderator backroom.
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With appropriate attribution should be acceptable to post an AI generated message, provided posted by a real person. I've never used Grammerly, so I can't comment on that. But I'll tell you that spell check has been a life saver for me.
Quote: gordonm888In the thread titled "Roblox Online Gambling" we had the following situation occur:
1. A new member named jjhons posted about a somewhat interesting topic, namely new software making it easier to monetize video games online such that players can actually play and win or lose crypto or cash - potentially without the oversight of gambling regulatory entities.
2. jjhons interacted with members in a fairly normal way, but was challenged by members as to whether he was an AI bot or not. jjhons responded by admitting that he had used AI to improve parts of the text of his post because English is not his native language.
3. At that point, moderators initially nuked jjhons for posting an AI enhanced message, but we have temporarily unbanned him while we try to consider what our policy is. Technically, an app like Grammarly uses AI, so is the use of Grammarly for innocuous changes in grammar or in wording a violation of forum policy? None of us want messages generated by AI bots, but where do we draw the line? We're discussing this in the moderator backroom.
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There's a rumor that in the moderator back room you're all naked. I don't want to think about this.
Quote: GenoDRPhWith appropriate attribution should be acceptable to post an AI generated message, provided posted by a real person. I've never used Grammerly, so I can't comment on that. But I'll tell you that spell check has been a life saver for me.
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I hope we can easily accept the difference between assistive technology and generative technology.
Assistive technology would seem to help enter your words. (Expect a few flubs; check for them.)
Generative technology would seem to assemble words of its own. I think this should be somehow cited as a different author.
In any case, if you click post, I'm going to viciously assume you verified what's going up, stand by it, and invite all due consequences. Blaming the spell check, grammar check, style check, speech to text software, neural predictive interface, or whatever hot gizmo they announce at next month's press conference should not save you.
