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OnceDear
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September 25th, 2023 at 12:08:30 PM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear


Yesterday, I became familiar with a new pair of slang words that relate to internet posting behaviour.
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Of necessity, I need to use a mild expletive for one of the terms and I will take any penalty.

Quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitposting


Shitposting / Trashposting
Shitposting or Trashposting is the act of using an online forum or social media page to post content that is satirical and of "aggressively, ironically, and trollishly poor quality"; it may be considered an online analog of trash talk.[1] Shitposts are generally intentionally designed to derail discussions or cause the biggest reaction with the least effort. It may even sometimes be orchestrated as part of a co-ordinated flame war to render a website unusable by its regular visitors.



Seems a subset or variation of trolling.
Do we have anyone on this forum that does that?

"Satirical"? Maybe not.
"aggressively, ironically, and trollishly poor quality" ? Maybe some posts fit that description?
"intentionally designed to derail discussions or cause the biggest reaction with the least effort." ? Hard to say.
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I’d say between 2 and 5% of my posts fit into that category.
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I don't think so. I'm not thinking of or suggesting any names.
Quote: https://dudeproducts.com/blogs/dude-blog/shitpost

Shitpost is an internet slang term for irrelevant, nonsensical, and ironically low-quality digital content that derails online discourse. A shitpost can be an image or text-only—either way, it’s intentionally stupid and completely out of context.

The main goals of a shitpost are pissing people off and making it impossible to have productive discussions.



A characteristic of a trashpost seems to be that it does not fit the context of the thread and does not even present it's own context. E.g, if I were to post in this thread something like this, but without explaining it....
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October 2nd, 2023 at 8:24:13 AM permalink
Reminder to the Mods:-
AZDuffman and Tuttigym were suspended with sentence TBC by Wizard a few days ago. I don't think they made the list.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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October 2nd, 2023 at 9:47:52 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Reminder to the Mods:-
AZDuffman and Tuttigym were suspended with sentence TBC by Wizard a few days ago. I don't think they made the list.
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Yes, I had noticed that and was working on it and have added them to the suspension list.

Wizard has been traveling and has not been in routine contact with the forum. On Sept 30 he was able to be active on the forum and decided to suspend AZDuffman and Tuttigym for a TBD period. I am showing their suspensions as 3 days + TBD. Dieter or I will unsuspend them after 3 days (on 10/3) but they may be subject to additional suspension terms when Wizard returns in a couple of days.

I am sorry for the confusion, our communications have not been ideal.
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October 2nd, 2023 at 9:51:00 AM permalink
Does a round table discussion do TBD or is it up to the person who pronounced it?
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October 2nd, 2023 at 1:12:42 PM permalink
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Does a round table discussion do TBD or is it up to the person who pronounced it?
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Case by case basis.
Sometimes it is discussed, sometimes the pronouncing moderator just needs some time to think rationally rather than rashly.
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October 2nd, 2023 at 2:26:56 PM permalink
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sometimes the pronouncing moderator just needs some time to think rationally rather than rashly.
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Personally, I think this forum could use the occasional "Mods Gone Wild!"

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October 5th, 2023 at 11:37:50 AM permalink
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By the way I calculated my edge over the casino when I use a certain method and it's 56%. On a single zero wheel. My edge when betting non randomly is 56%.


I believe the Mods should intervene now to stop any more nonsensical postings such as this

I'm not saying he should be suspended

by now we all know what he believes and that just about everybody else believes that his tales are false

nothing is gained by continuing this any further

I believe that he should not be allowed to post any more about his roulette methods and claimed winnings

I believe at one point he was told not to open any more threads about his roulette methods - so he revived an old thread

I am very surprised that this is allowed to continue ad infinitum

imo it is now time for the Mods to take stronger action

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October 5th, 2023 at 11:48:14 AM permalink
They have taken stronger action: MrV, BillRyan and Soopoo could tell you about that.... Well if they were not suspended.
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October 5th, 2023 at 12:07:48 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: EvenBob

By the way I calculated my edge over the casino when I use a certain method and it's 56%. On a single zero wheel. My edge when betting non randomly is 56%.


I believe the Mods should intervene now to stop any more nonsensical postings such as this

I'm not saying he should be suspended

by now we all know what he believes and that just about everybody else believes that his tales are false

nothing is gained by continuing this any further

I believe that he should not be allowed to post any more about his roulette methods and claimed winnings

I believe at one point he was told not to open any more threads about his roulette methods - so he revived an old thread

I am very surprised that this is allowed to continue ad infinitum

imo it is now time for the Mods to take stronger action

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Come mon, lrr, just don't click on the thread. I know you can do that.

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October 5th, 2023 at 12:11:04 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: EvenBob

By the way I calculated my edge over the casino when I use a certain method and it's 56%. On a single zero wheel. My edge when betting non randomly is 56%.


I believe the Mods should intervene now to stop any more nonsensical postings such as this

I'm not saying he should be suspended

by now we all know what he believes and that just about everybody else believes that his tales are false

nothing is gained by continuing this any further

I believe that he should not be allowed to post any more about his roulette methods and claimed winnings

I believe at one point he was told not to open any more threads about his roulette methods - so he revived an old thread

I am very surprised that this is allowed to continue ad infinitum

imo it is now time for the Mods to take stronger action

.
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Dieter, the forum administrator, said this the other day:

Quote: Dieter


......I do seem to recall some permanent bans for math denial that was deemed too extreme and distracting.
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If extreme and distracting math denial doesn't describe EvenBob, I don't know what does. And that's enough to get someone nuked.
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October 5th, 2023 at 2:41:40 PM permalink
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I believe that he should not be allowed to post any more about his roulette methods and claimed winnings
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I should be silenced yet Mdawg gets to make claims that I could never even dream of? The other day he posted that he made over $90,000 at a session of Baccarat. I didn't say anything, maybe he did maybe he didn't. Why does he get to do that yet you think I don't.
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October 5th, 2023 at 2:46:48 PM permalink
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I should be silenced yet Mdawg gets to make claims that I could never even dream of? The other day he posted that he made over $90,000 at a session of Baccarat. I didn't say anything, maybe he did maybe he didn't. Why does he get to do that yet you think I don't.
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Because Mdawg's claims are consistent and believable for someone who is a high roller and he is constantly posting evidence to support his claims.
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October 5th, 2023 at 2:55:55 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

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I should be silenced yet Mdawg gets to make claims that I could never even dream of? The other day he posted that he made over $90,000 at a session of Baccarat. I didn't say anything, maybe he did maybe he didn't. Why does he get to do that yet you think I don't.
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Because Mdawg's claims are consistent and believable for someone who is a high roller and he is constantly posting evidence to support his claims.
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Hey EB: Tiger needs proof, so show us your monthly bills for cell, utilities, internet, etc then show us pictures of a couple of hundred $$ bills and maybe your Timex and designer Nikes. That would do it for me and maybe Tiger would buy it too.

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October 5th, 2023 at 2:58:10 PM permalink
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Hey EB: Tiger needs proof, so show us your monthly bills for cell, utilities, internet, etc then show us pictures of a couple of hundred $$ bills and maybe your Timex and designer Nikes. That would do it for me and maybe Tiger would buy it too.

tuttigym
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Well, I did see that picture of $1,000 cash he posted not too long ago.
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October 5th, 2023 at 2:59:28 PM permalink
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Because Mdawg's claims are consistent and believable for someone who is a high roller and he is constantly posting evidence to support his claims.
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If that's true why are people always posting in his thread negative things that they don't believe him. Just the other day somebody got suspended for 14 days for doing that. Where is this proof, why is not everybody aware of it. I've never seen it.
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October 5th, 2023 at 2:59:50 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: tuttigym

Hey EB: Tiger needs proof, so show us your monthly bills for cell, utilities, internet, etc then show us pictures of a couple of hundred $$ bills and maybe your Timex and designer Nikes. That would do it for me and maybe Tiger would buy it too.

tuttigym
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Well, I did see that picture of $1,000 cash he posted not too long ago.
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There you go. See it's real.

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October 5th, 2023 at 3:03:03 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: TigerWu



Because Mdawg's claims are consistent and believable for someone who is a high roller and he is constantly posting evidence to support his claims.
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If that's true why are people always posting in his thread negative things that they don't believe him. Just the other day somebody got suspended for 14 days for doing that. Where is this proof, why is not everybody aware of it. I've never seen it.
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14 days? "Just the other day"? I did not see that. Could you link us?

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October 5th, 2023 at 3:03:06 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: tuttigym

Hey EB: Tiger needs proof, so show us your monthly bills for cell, utilities, internet, etc then show us pictures of a couple of hundred $$ bills and maybe your Timex and designer Nikes. That would do it for me and maybe Tiger would buy it too.

tuttigym
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Well, I did see that picture of $1,000 cash he posted not too long ago.
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Yes, that was memorable and impressive. Solid evidence of something. Henry my pet Unicorn was convinced.
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October 5th, 2023 at 3:04:34 PM permalink
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14 days? "Just the other day"? I did not see that. Could you link us?

tuttigym
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Check into it yourself, I'm done posting here I'm not going to be accused of hijacking this thread which is what you're doing.
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October 5th, 2023 at 3:10:22 PM permalink
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Quote: tuttigym


14 days? "Just the other day"? I did not see that. Could you link us?

tuttigym
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Check into it yourself, I'm done posting here I'm not going to be accused of hijacking this thread which is what you're doing.
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How could you be accused of hijacking a suspension thread when you just posted about a 14 day suspension?

Just holding your feet to the fire as they say.

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October 5th, 2023 at 3:29:28 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: tuttigym


14 days? "Just the other day"? I did not see that. Could you link us?

tuttigym
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Check into it yourself, I'm done posting here I'm not going to be accused of hijacking this thread which is what you're doing.
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How could you be accused of hijacking a suspension thread when you just posted about a 14 day suspension?

Just holding your feet to the fire as they say.

tuttigym
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Signs of. Being elderly lol.

Seriously he just realized he didn't see anyone suspended for 14 days
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October 5th, 2023 at 3:42:36 PM permalink
There was a recent 14 day suspension.
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October 5th, 2023 at 3:42:38 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: tuttigym


14 days? "Just the other day"? I did not see that. Could you link us?

tuttigym
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Check into it yourself, I'm done posting here I'm not going to be accused of hijacking this thread which is what you're doing.
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How could you be accused of hijacking a suspension thread when you just posted about a 14 day suspension?

Just holding your feet to the fire as they say.

tuttigym
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Signs of. Being elderly lol.

Seriously he just realized he didn't see anyone suspended for 14 days
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Ya think?

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October 5th, 2023 at 3:45:05 PM permalink
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There was a recent 14 day suspension.
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Against a MDawg violator? Link please.

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October 5th, 2023 at 3:45:50 PM permalink
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Seriously he just realized he didn't see anyone suspended for 14 days
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Ya think?

tuttigym
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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/36338-discussion-iii-about-the-suspension-list/42/#post903156
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October 5th, 2023 at 3:51:16 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

Quote: Dieter

There was a recent 14 day suspension.
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Against a MDawg violator? Link please.

tuttigym
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It was MrV suspended for 14 days after insult to MDawg.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165

If you are going to factcheck EB, factcheck yourself too. $:o)
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October 5th, 2023 at 5:22:49 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Quote: lilredrooster

Quote: EvenBob

By the way I calculated my edge over the casino when I use a certain method and it's 56%. On a single zero wheel. My edge when betting non randomly is 56%.


I believe the Mods should intervene now to stop any more nonsensical postings such as this

I'm not saying he should be suspended

by now we all know what he believes and that just about everybody else believes that his tales are false

nothing is gained by continuing this any further

I believe that he should not be allowed to post any more about his roulette methods and claimed winnings

I believe at one point he was told not to open any more threads about his roulette methods - so he revived an old thread

I am very surprised that this is allowed to continue ad infinitum

imo it is now time for the Mods to take stronger action

.
link to original post



Dieter, the forum administrator, said this the other day:

Quote: Dieter


......I do seem to recall some permanent bans for math denial that was deemed too extreme and distracting.
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If extreme and distracting math denial doesn't describe EvenBob, I don't know what does. And that's enough to get someone nuked.
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"the" is a bit strong. "a" is more appropriate.
(As far as I know, all 'Greens' - (public) moderators, owners, technical gurus, and many alumni - are listed as 'Administrator'.)
No big deal. I'll sleep fine.

That bit of pedantry aside, the specific flavor of math denial that I've seen lately differs from some previous variants.
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October 5th, 2023 at 5:33:06 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: Dieter

There was a recent 14 day suspension.
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Against a MDawg violator? Link please.

tuttigym
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It was MrV suspended for 14 days after insult to MDawg.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165

If you are going to factcheck EB, factcheck yourself too. $:o)
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But that wasn't 14 days.

According to EB time is only 21 hours per day because he sets his clock back so it was only 11 days plus a few hours
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October 5th, 2023 at 6:33:45 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: Dieter

There was a recent 14 day suspension.
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Against a MDawg violator? Link please.

tuttigym
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It was MrV suspended for 14 days after insult to MDawg.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165

If you are going to factcheck EB, factcheck yourself too. $:o)
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But that wasn't 14 days.

According to EB time is only 21 hours per day because he sets his clock back so it was only 11 days plus a few hours
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That would make it more than 14 days..?
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October 5th, 2023 at 7:00:58 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: darkoz

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: Dieter

There was a recent 14 day suspension.
link to original post


Against a MDawg violator? Link please.

tuttigym
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It was MrV suspended for 14 days after insult to MDawg.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165

If you are going to factcheck EB, factcheck yourself too. $:o)
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But that wasn't 14 days.

According to EB time is only 21 hours per day because he sets his clock back so it was only 11 days plus a few hours
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That would make it more than 14 days..?
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Days are different. A Jupiter day is different than a Mars day is different than an Earth day..

Similar to how math is different if you understand random vs. Non-random.

Random math on Mars is different than non-random math on Jupiter.
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October 5th, 2023 at 7:47:09 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: Dieter

Quote: darkoz

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: tuttigym

Quote: Dieter

There was a recent 14 day suspension.
link to original post


Against a MDawg violator? Link please.

tuttigym
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It was MrV suspended for 14 days after insult to MDawg.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165

If you are going to factcheck EB, factcheck yourself too. $:o)
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But that wasn't 14 days.

According to EB time is only 21 hours per day because he sets his clock back so it was only 11 days plus a few hours
link to original post



That would make it more than 14 days..?
link to original post



Days are different. A Jupiter day is different than a Mars day is different than an Earth day..

Similar to how math is different if you understand random vs. Non-random.

Random math on Mars is different than non-random math on Jupiter.
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Well, I don't expect to find Arabic numerals or the same operation symbols...
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October 6th, 2023 at 9:53:15 AM permalink
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Quote: tuttigym



Seriously he just realized he didn't see anyone suspended for 14 days
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Ya think?

tuttigym
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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/36338-discussion-iii-about-the-suspension-list/42/#post903156
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First, thanks for the link. As I have posted previously, my computer "skills" are fairly low on the proficiency scale -- around a 2 1/2, so fact checking of previous posts doesn't happen. That is why I asked for the link, so that I would not jump to an erroneous statement. Second, that "quote" above was posted by DO. It is easy to make a mistake reading some of the lengthy multi-quote postings.

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October 6th, 2023 at 11:46:27 AM permalink
If you want to learn about suspensions:

1. when you see Recent Threads, scroll down to "Rules" and click.
2. Then click on "Suspension List"

That list has all the suspensions, including clickable links to the posts that caused the person to be suspended. This list is maintained as a public service by your jolly moderator team.
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October 6th, 2023 at 1:19:05 PM permalink
Looks like I’m out of the sin bin. I was suspended for asking the Mods if a certain type of comment was suspension worthy! Literally, for asking a question to define the rules of the forum!

Gordon can re-read my post if he chooses to, and can apologize to me whenever he wants to.

I think periodic suspensions are good for me. I followed the threads that interested me during my 48 hour hiatus, but knowing I couldn’t respond made the idiocy spouted less annoying. Maybe Axel, Billy, Tiger and I will take turns being suspended?
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October 6th, 2023 at 1:39:59 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Looks like I’m out of the sin bin. I was suspended for asking the Mods if a certain type of comment was suspension worthy! Literally, for asking a question to define the rules of the forum!

Gordon can re-read my post if he chooses to, and can apologize to me whenever he wants to.

I think periodic suspensions are good for me. I followed the threads that interested me during my 48 hour hiatus, but knowing I couldn’t respond made the idiocy spouted less annoying. Maybe Axel, Billy, Tiger and I will take turns being suspended?
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You were suspended for implying that the moderators do not have the balls to suspend trolls.

Insult to the mods? Probably. But there was a time where moderators deliberately brushed off insults to themselves in the interest of encouraging useful feedback: Ask Mission or BBB how often they suspended members for 'insulting' them. It's not something I ever did either.

The BEST feedback any business or venture or forum admin can get is negative feedback or constructive criticism.
Moderators should wear their thick skin with pride and not abuse their power to stifle criticism.

If they don't have thick skin, they should grow some.
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October 6th, 2023 at 1:41:07 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Looks like I’m out of the sin bin. I was suspended for asking the Mods if a certain type of comment was suspension worthy! Literally, for asking a question to define the rules of the forum!

Gordon can re-read my post if he chooses to, and can apologize to me whenever he wants to.

I think periodic suspensions are good for me. I followed the threads that interested me during my 48 hour hiatus, but knowing I couldn’t respond made the idiocy spouted less annoying. Maybe Axel, Billy, Tiger and I will take turns being suspended?
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Welcome to the club of suspended for dubious reasons. Doing your time quietly raises your status. Too bad you got out before your commissary got set up.
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October 6th, 2023 at 2:29:23 PM permalink
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Looks like I’m out of the sin bin. I was suspended for asking the Mods if a certain type of comment was suspension worthy! Literally, for asking a question to define the rules of the forum!
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Boo hoo for you. That wasn't the reason you got suspended and you know it.
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October 6th, 2023 at 4:12:39 PM permalink
Soopoo is in red again? Good thing he said he enjoys the time off...
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October 6th, 2023 at 4:29:04 PM permalink
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Soopoo is in red again? Good thing he said he enjoys the time off...
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I understand there is a commissary account deposit in progress, and refunds are a pain to process.
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October 6th, 2023 at 5:13:23 PM permalink
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Soopoo is in red again? Good thing he said he enjoys the time off...
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I understand there is a commissary account deposit in progress, and refunds are a pain to process.
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Not worth it, I will just bribe one of the screws to get some cigarettes to him. SP, the Lucky Strikes came from me.
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October 6th, 2023 at 7:23:52 PM permalink
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Soopoo is in red again? Good thing he said he enjoys the time off...
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I’ll have to PM him here and DT tomorrow that he can just PM his picks to me on DT. Maybe he already sent them. I think he also has my number so he can text them this week.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 6th, 2023 at 7:55:20 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Quote: EvenBob

Soopoo is in red again? Good thing he said he enjoys the time off...
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I’ll have to PM him here and DT tomorrow that he can just PM his picks to me on DT. Maybe he already sent them. I think he also has my number so he can text them this week.
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Thank you for doing this. I did not intend for his suspension to interfere with the Picks contest.

As you may have seen elsewhere, Wizard has returned and decided to lengthen Soopoo's suspension by two days -one for each of his testicles. He indicated that he felt insulted too.

Let me make one explanatory comment:

You are not allowed to make an insulting comment by putting it in an Easter dress and parading it down the street. By this, I mean:

"Am I allowed to post 'JohnSmith is fat, stupid and ugly and a waste of skin'?" is a sneaky way of dressing up a very insulting statement as a question. You can't do this, and you should expect to be suspended.

"Polls report that 92% of respondents believe that JohnSmith is fat, stupid, ugly and a waste of skin." is also not an acceptable way of sneaking an insult to JohnSmith into the forum. No matter the pretext, you may not organize electrons into a statement that is clearly meant to insult another forum member and post it in this forum.
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October 6th, 2023 at 11:12:51 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Quote: Mission146

Quote: EvenBob

Soopoo is in red again? Good thing he said he enjoys the time off...
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I’ll have to PM him here and DT tomorrow that he can just PM his picks to me on DT. Maybe he already sent them. I think he also has my number so he can text them this week.
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Thank you for doing this. I did not intend for his suspension to interfere with the Picks contest.

As you may have seen elsewhere, Wizard has returned and decided to lengthen Soopoo's suspension by two days -one for each of his testicles. He indicated that he felt insulted too.

Let me make one explanatory comment:

You are not allowed to make an insulting comment by putting it in an Easter dress and parading it down the street. By this, I mean:

"Am I allowed to post 'JohnSmith is fat, stupid and ugly and a waste of skin'?" is a sneaky way of dressing up a very insulting statement as a question. You can't do this, and you should expect to be suspended.

"Polls report that 92% of respondents believe that JohnSmith is fat, stupid, ugly and a waste of skin." is also not an acceptable way of sneaking an insult to JohnSmith into the forum. No matter the pretext, you may not organize electrons into a statement that is clearly meant to insult another forum member and post it in this forum.
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What Soopoo said I have said and heard many times in my life, This is in movies said amongst friends, fathers & sons
Hell women say it. I can't imagine being offended by it, but then I do shop for my underwear in the men's department.

This is what I hear when it is spoken to me,
Be courageous find some strength, toughen up. The only thing making it an insult is poor
perception/ interpretation, perhaps by design.

If what I said offends you insults you or hurt your feelings and you need to suspend me to make yourself feel better
can you wait until I get my picks in.

Edit: Picks are in.
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October 7th, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM permalink
I should point out that everyone is going to handle Administration a little differently and I believe our current Admins are also doing it on a volunteer basis.

They have every right to enforce the rules, to the letter, even as applies to posts directed at them. It is something that I chose not to do, and I do appreciate the compliments in that regard, but by the rules, I should not have let shots at me stand without penalty, either.

So, I would say that the Admins are doing a good job. In my case, I simply chose to ignore the rules, in certain instances (such as the above), but they technically should be enforced.
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October 7th, 2023 at 11:13:22 AM permalink
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Looks like I’m out of the sin bin. I was suspended for asking the Mods if a certain type of comment was suspension worthy! Literally, for asking a question to define the rules of the forum!

Gordon can re-read my post if he chooses to, and can apologize to me whenever he wants to.

I think periodic suspensions are good for me. I followed the threads that interested me during my 48 hour hiatus, but knowing I couldn’t respond made the idiocy spouted less annoying. Maybe Axel, Billy, Tiger and I will take turns being suspended?
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You were suspended for implying that the moderators do not have the balls to suspend trolls.

Insult to the mods? Probably. But there was a time where moderators deliberately brushed off insults to themselves in the interest of encouraging useful feedback: Ask Mission or BBB how often they suspended members for 'insulting' them. It's not something I ever did either.

The BEST feedback any business or venture or forum admin can get is negative feedback or constructive criticism.
Moderators should wear their thick skin with pride and not abuse their power to stifle criticism.

If they don't have thick skin, they should grow some.
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I disagree with parts of what you said.

I have been insulted quite a few times and turned the other cheek only because I am a mod. But in the culture I grew up in (the streets of NYC) the phrase "if you had balls" was a mortal insult. Even today, if you were in a nightclub, a strip club, or a party at someone's home and you said what Soopoo said "if you had balls you would do thus and so" the odds are good that you would start a fistfight or a loud belligerent argument. As in everything, there are limits to what moderators should tolerate. I feel that Soopoo crossed the line.

I did show Soopoo's post to my wife, who I admit is a bit of a princess. She was angry at Soopoo for insulting her husband in such a way, for disparaging my masculinity. She felt that was unacceptable. When I mentioned that he was a doctor, my wife said some very unkind things about doctors (my wife is a registered nurse). She started questioning me about what kind of people were members of this forum, were they all so rude and crude? No, I replied, we have members like ThatDonGuy, Gialmere, and Mission.

I will say that in general Soopoo is a highly-valued member of the forum, IMO.
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October 7th, 2023 at 11:35:54 AM permalink
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I did show Soopoo's post to my wife, who I admit is a bit of a princess. She was angry at Soopoo for insulting her husband in such a way, for disparaging my masculinity. She felt that was unacceptable. When I mentioned that he was a doctor, my wife said some very unkind things about doctors (my wife is a registered nurse).
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Now that's funny. I have a sister-in-law who was a hospital nurse for 20 years and you do not want to get her started on doctors. To say she has zero respect for them would be an understatement. The examples she can give as to why will literally make you question the medical profession and the trust we have in it. You're better off not knowing.
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October 8th, 2023 at 4:50:45 AM permalink
I’ve been released again! The phrase ‘do you have the balls to do something’ to me just means there is a difficult task ahead, one requiring MORE than the average amount of courage. Last time it was used against me was a week or so ago, after hitting a so-so drive I had 190 to the pin, but 170 to clear water on the direct line. Friend asked if ‘I had the balls to go for the pin’. I can assure you I never for a second took it as an insult, but rather, it made clear that going for it was risky.

And I grew up in NYC too. You’d have to pose a much stronger insult than that for me to even notice.

As far as Bob’s continual insulting of Doctors, with of course obviously the insult is directed at me, there are all kinds of people who enter the medical profession. Kind people. Humble people. Brilliant people. Assholes. Greedy bastards. Generous people. Etc…. Just like lawyers, APs, cat hoarders, etc…

Anyway, if Gordon and Mike took personal offense to my extremely mild jab, I apologize.
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October 8th, 2023 at 5:17:49 AM permalink
As they say on the streets of NY: It is what it is. Sometimes it is best to leave something to the imagination.
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October 8th, 2023 at 7:33:41 PM permalink
What is the policy/stance on AI/ChatGPT members? It seems like an infiltration has been underway.
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October 8th, 2023 at 7:52:28 PM permalink
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What is the policy/stance on AI/ChatGPT members? It seems like an infiltration has been underway.
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How is AI/Chatgpt opening accounts?

It has to be humans who then use AI answers. But why the he'll would they waste time doing that?
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