Wizardofnothing
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July 20th, 2016 at 5:30:41 AM permalink
Just curious - this may have been answered before- I know all offers are cancelled when evicted but what about things that are earned - such as cash back- or an even better instance where a casino has a double jackpot promotion as follows

Hit a jackpot between July 1-15 and get freeplay equal to that amount valid between 16-31

You hit 9 jackpots and then get banned on the 15th. Are the obligated to follow through? There was also a cash option of 1/2 the freeplay- would this change the situation at all?
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July 20th, 2016 at 1:00:43 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Just curious - this may have been answered before- I know all offers are cancelled when evicted but what about things that are earned - such as cash back- or an even better instance where a casino has a double jackpot promotion as follows

Hit a jackpot between July 1-15 and get freeplay equal to that amount valid between 16-31

You hit 9 jackpots and then get banned on the 15th. Are the obligated to follow through? There was also a cash option of 1/2 the freeplay- would this change the situation at all?



I don't think anybody short of a gaming attorney could answer that one.

I can see it going either way in court, depending on why you were banned and the language of the offer, as well as the laws in place at the time.

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July 20th, 2016 at 1:28:21 PM permalink
If you were tresspassed, I wouldn't take a chance on going back to the casino. I assume all offers are off the table, including cash back.
I'd run it past a gambling attorney if the amount in question is more than his fees would be.
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July 20th, 2016 at 5:40:36 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

If you were tresspassed, I wouldn't take a chance on going back to the casino. I assume all offers are off the table, including cash back.
I'd run it past a gambling attorney if the amount in question is more than his fees would be.

IMO if they 86 you they should pay you your value.
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July 20th, 2016 at 5:57:07 PM permalink
I don't disagree with you. However, I wouldn't risk being arrested over it.
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July 20th, 2016 at 6:05:23 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

IMO if they 86 you they should pay you your value.



If they allow you to cash out points they should pay you but freeplay has no cash value. For those ofyou that want to argue it does, you might want to reconsider. If it has cash value, casinos will have to start giving 1099's for freeplay and most of us don't want that.
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July 20th, 2016 at 7:17:09 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

If they allow you to cash out points they should pay you but freeplay has no cash value. For those ofyou that want to argue it does, you might want to reconsider. If it has cash value, casinos will have to start giving 1099's for freeplay and most of us don't want that.

if that's the case then how is it people are going to jail for getting extra free play due to glitches? No cash value what's the big deal? They say no cash value when it it suits them and suddenly it has cash value if it helps them.

If they want to 86 you, and don't want to give you your free play then they should return your losses if you had any. Or fine, 86 you and they can just give you all your no cash value free play at once and have security stand there while you play it. I mean seriously unless the person is a threat to others there's zero reason to not honor the deal and give it to you with a few hour's to play it. (they can't be free rolling you). Or they can allow a friend or 3rd party to get your free play or complete the promotion. Even if it's an attorney or something.

And what if it isn' free play they are offering? What if it is cash on some multi level promotion? IE. hit 5 Royals and get x amount extra. Now the player hits 4 and had a 10k in loss, now they 86 him or they just change the promo to now you have to hit a sequence royal and he's done nothing illegal or wrong? Let's say that Bonus was 10k. That's absolutely insane.

I would absolutely rather have a 1099 for all free play if they had to honor any promo or deal they offered. I welcome 1099 for free play, some casinos are all ready doing it. I'll tell you where in person.
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Jul 20, 2016
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July 20th, 2016 at 7:35:52 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I welcome 1099 for free play, some casinos are all ready doing it. I'll tell you where in person.



Really? (Please tell.)

I know some states are considering ways to "monetize" free play for tax purposes, but I don't know any that currently do it. We both know $100 free play is not the same as $100 cash, right? In my experience, $100 free play seems to generate about $65 cash, although with no guarantee you will get any cash return on it.
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July 20th, 2016 at 8:19:35 PM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

In my experience, $100 free play seems to generate about $65 cash, although with no guarantee you will get any cash return on it.




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July 20th, 2016 at 10:50:25 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

I'd find a new hobby.



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