Discussion II about the Suspension List
Quote: AxelWolfO'REALLY! Then why where so many people ask to take down their avatars? Where was the freedom of speech movement then?
Edit to add: For the most part, I don't think anybody should have to take down their avatars. I hadn't seen any that were offencive. But now that we went down that road, let's make it fair to everyone and start voting on all the avatars.
I agree with you that I don’t think any of the avatars should have came down. I viewed the last round of avatar removal as those in conflict with the ban on political discourse. I view this evenbob avatar dust up as going farther towards some general level of offense that none of the moderators that weighed in share. In fact both Mike and OnceDear posted that they didn’t think EvenBob’s avatar violated any rules.
Just moving farther down the slippery slope . . .
And the person that complained about MaxPen's Avatar just doesn't like MaxPen, or they just want to be a troublemaker.Quote: onenickelmiracleThis is a good point, some people are just voting this way because they're offended by Evenbob and not the butt. It's not even supposed to be considered to be a real vote. We can test it by having votes on every person's avatar posting. I'm kind of offended by the lewd act your avatar has of a man grinding his body on a cello. It's sick, just sick.
I'd like Bob, this place wouldn't be the same without him. My vote had nothing to do with Bob whatsoever.
What makes you think I was implying pride?Quote: AZDuffmanMotivation to be offended is not something to be proud of.
For the record, I voted I was okay with the avatar
Quote: 100xOddsWiz is only 55?
er..i mean.. Happy 55th Wiz!
:)
You're a little early, but thanks!
It may very well break the keep it PG rules.Quote: unJonI agree with you that I don’t think any of the avatars should have came down. I viewed the last round of avatar removal as those in conflict with the ban on political discourse. I view this evenbob avatar dust up as going farther towards some general level of offense that none of the moderators that weighed in share. In fact both Mike and OnceDear posted that they didn’t think EvenBob’s avatar violated any rules.
Just moving farther down the slippery slope . . .
What if I post up an avatar of something that looks like female genitalia, but in reality it's just a close-up of a different non offensive body part?
What if Max posted up an avatar of somebody that looks exactly like Putin, but it isn't?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3947778/vladimir-putins-chinese-doppelganger-is-a-farmer-who-fears-his-only-hope-of-finding-love-is-by-pretending-to-be-the-russian-leader/Quote: AxelWolfIt may very well break the keep it PG rules.
What if I post up an avatar of something that looks like female genitalia, but in reality it's just a close-up of a different non offensive body part?
What if Max posted up an avatar of somebody that looks exactly like Putin, but it isn't?
Quote: AxelWolfIt may very well break the keep it PG rules.
What if I post up an avatar of something that looks like female genitalia, but in reality it's just a close-up of a different non offensive body part?
What if Max posted up an avatar of somebody that looks exactly like Putin, but it isn't?
Fair. I guess the mods might determine it breaks that rule.
Quote: AxelWolfIt may very well break the keep it PG rules.
What if I post up an avatar of something that looks like female genitalia, but in reality it's just a close-up of a different non offensive body part?
What if Max posted up an avatar of somebody that looks exactly like Putin, but it isn't?
The ladies at the Girls meet the internet FB page have done something similar to what you've suggested.
Quote: unJon19 people is surely just shy of half to people here these days.
As with any vote, those that don't vote aren't counted as present
I was making a joke about the flight of posters from the board.Quote: darkozAs with any vote, those that don't vote aren't counted as present
But in response to your last post that’s not how all votes work. Ask the Senate.
Quote: unJonI was making a joke about the flight of posters from the board.
But in response to your last post that’s not how all votes work. Ask the Senate.
Touche
And damn, that reference totally went over my head. Good one!
Quote: onenickelmiracleI'm kind of offended by the lewd act your avatar has of a man grinding his body on a cello. It's sick, just sick.
It's a double bass. Well, it started as a cello, but all that grinding...
Ha ha ha hee hee hee, that was funny.Quote: rxwineIt's a double bass. Well, it started as a cello, but all that grinding...
Quote: WizardThings in the world can't be that bad if EB's avatar is so controversial.
Heck, I said that in so many words and got suspended.
You do realize some snowflake got offended and Shazam, no more Land o Lakes butter Indian maiden. Probably someone here, it don’t take much!
Quote: WizardThings in the world can't be that bad if EB's avatar is so controversial.
How about if I changed it
to a great work of art.
Quote: DeMangoHeck, I said that in so many words and got suspended.
You do realize some snowflake got offended and Shazam, no more Land o Lakes butter Indian maiden. Probably someone here, it don’t take much!
What's funny is I'm part Indian, but I've been buying the butter for years. It's the people that aren't Indian that are offended.
Quote: EvenBobHow about if I changed it
to a great work of art.
That photo seems fine to me.
Unless you enlarge the scrotum and leave everything else out.
Is that the plan?
Quote: Wizard
I'm okay with EvenBob's avatar ........16 votes (39.02%)
I'm offended by it....................................21 votes (51.21%)
Quote: KeyserWhat's funny is I'm part Indian, but I've been buying the butter for years. It's the people that aren't Indian that are offended.
It always is. They pulled Speedy Gonzolez cartoons in IIRC the late 90s because they did not want to "offend Mexicans." Meanwhile the Mexicans actually loved him. They were extra popular in Mexico itself.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt always is. They pulled Speedy Gonzolez cartoons in IIRC the late 90s because they did not want to "offend Mexicans." Meanwhile the Mexicans actually loved him. They were extra popular in Mexico itself.
Jewish people tell highly anti-Semitic jokes about their culture.
The rule is generally we can joke about the stupidity of Judaism, but that's not an option for everyone else. We can laugh at ourselves. The rest of you are anti-Semitic.
You are just saying that is true for all people about themselves (as I pretty much knew). I wonder why you didn't know that?
Quote: darkozJewish people tell highly anti-Semitic jokes about their culture.
The rule is generally we can joke about the stupidity of Judaism, but that's not an option for everyone else. We can laugh at ourselves. The rest of you are anti-Semitic.
You are just saying that is true for all people about themselves (as I pretty much knew). I wonder why you didn't know that?
No, I am saying certain white people like to get offended for everyone else on their behalf because their own lives are so comfortable they need to find something to be upset about. Usually the "offended" group mostly does not care.
Quote: AZDuffmanNo, I am saying certain white people like to get offended for everyone else on their behalf because their own lives are so comfortable they need to find something to be upset about. Usually the "offended" group mostly does not care.
So you are offended that people try to avoid stereotypes of others?
Quote: darkozSo you are offended that people try to avoid stereotypes of others?
No, I am just sick of people who are offended at the drop of a hat. Even worse are people who get offended for a group to which they do not belong. They need a life.
Speaking up stereotypes, regarding my theory that black people do not take this virus as serious as others. I took a snapshot today of a group of six individuals practically huddling together well hanging out outside an apartment complex as if it was nothing. Do I have to mention they were not wearing masks? If I can ever figure out how to post pictures here....Quote: darkozSo you are offended that people try to avoid stereotypes of others?
I noticed the same stuff going on at Walmart, Sam's Club and various other places, yet again.
Quote: AxelWolfSpeaking up stereotypes, regarding my theory that black people do not take this virus as serious as others. I took a snapshot today of a group of six individuals practically huddling together well hanging out outside an apartment complex as if it was nothing. Do I have to mention they were not wearing masks? If I can ever figure out how to post pictures here....
I noticed the same stuff going on at Walmart, Sam's Club and various other places, yet again.
Black peoples on the east coast seem to be taking it seriously. I feel like I’ve seen more black people masks wearing face masks in public than white people.
I think this is a very local stereotype, but around here you will often see black people at restaurants order a cup of hot water to rinse their utensils in before eating.
I think I mentioned before that it might be a regional thing as well.Quote: gamerfreakBlack peoples on the east coast seem to be taking it seriously. I feel like I’ve seen more black people masks wearing face masks in public than white people.
I think this is a very local stereotype, but around here you will often see black people at restaurants order a cup of hot water to rinse their utensils in before eating.
Quote: AxelWolfIf I can ever figure out how to post pictures here....
.
Send the pic to your email.
Do a screen grab of it and
put in your pic file. Go to
imjur site and get a jpg
of the pic. Post the jpg
address here.
You obviously have to
do this later on a laptop. It
takes me about a minute
to do all those steps,
practice makes perfect.
Quote: DeMangohttps://youtu.be/UcvIQJ-QurQ
And now another voice of sanity, twice in one week no less, from Bill Maher!
Quote: WizardPolitical statement, per the Martingale policy, 7 days.
Care to elaborate? I thought Bill Maher is a comedian, a cynic, and an entertainer.
Quote: gamerfreakBlack peoples on the east coast seem to be taking it seriously. I feel like I’ve seen more black people masks wearing face masks in public than white people.
Now that you mention it that seems correct, More Black women than men. One at the office was wearing a mask one day back in January. She only wore it a day or two. I find in general Black women do not like "risk." Black men not as worried.
Quote: onenickelmiracleCare to elaborate? I thought Bill Maher is a comedian, a cynic, and an entertainer.
I agree with what he said in that video. He even had Ann Coulter smiling and laughing. However, there was a dig at Trump in there and his whole show is very political.
I recommend to the forum if you agree with what somebody else says about something, don't just throw out a link, but restate their opinion in your own words.
Quote: AxelWolfSpeaking up stereotypes, regarding my theory that black people do not take this virus as serious as others. I took a snapshot today of a group of six individuals practically huddling together well hanging out outside an apartment complex as if it was nothing. Do I have to mention they were not wearing masks? If I can ever figure out how to post pictures here....
I noticed the same stuff going on at Walmart, Sam's Club and various other places, yet again.
I can't judge how blacks are handling this as I rarely see any in Bisbee, but everyday I observe groups of white people mingling together. My shop is directly across from a Dairy Queen that is now drive thru only, but that doesn't stop people from getting out of their car and eating by the picnic tables. It seems to have become the place to hang out since the town shut down the village green.
The clubhouse at my campground still has its daily card games and with all the bars in the county closed its business has actually stepped up a bit.
One thing I've noticed is almost all the protesters this week were white. That's probably not the only thing they had in common but that's for another forum.
Quote: billryan
One thing I've noticed is almost all the protesters this week were white. That's probably not the only thing they had in common but that's for another forum.
It is, I will say bring it to DT lest I get thrown in solitary for 3 to 7 days.
So, I think its odd that Darkoz keeps insisting that Evenbob's avatar should be removed because of a poll result.
IMO, political animus has become personal animus and personal animus is the driving force behind this avatar discussion.
Quote: billryanI hope Mr Wizard doesn't need polling to do the right thing.
Think it's bad cop, good cop. I don't know who the good cop is, but they're somewhere, oh wait of course it's OD. Besides that, this is turning into Ten Little Indians or Survivor or Highlander.
I'm insisting that Bob's Avatar be removed because of Poll results.Quote: gordonm888If we had had a poll about whether Darkoz should be permanently banned from the forum at the time before so many left the forum because of his presence here, I presume that the poll results would have been in favor of having Darkoz banned.
So, I think its odd that Darkoz keeps insisting that Evenbob's avatar should be removed because of a poll result.
IMO, political animus has become personal animus and personal animus is the driving force behind this avatar discussion.
What was the use of having a poll in this situation unless your going to utilize it to help make a decision?
Quote: WizardI listen to them in borderline cases.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm insisting asking that Bob's Avatar be removed because of Poll results.
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Quote: AxelWolfQuote: AxelWolfI'm insisting asking that Bob's Avatar be removed because of Poll results.
What was the use of having a poll in this situation unless your going to utilize it to help make a decision?
Action on the outcome?I am a robot.
Not sure what you mean by that.Quote: billryanThe real problem is that the USofA is a nation of scofflaws that aren't used to consequences. People aren't used to facing consequences.
Just as an aside, If I found myself suspended three times in a month in the same thread or even while discussing the same subject, I'd like to think I'd learn to avoid the thread or subject. Others may not concur.
Quote: WizardHere is one of my garden gnomes. The strange thing about him is he was white when born but his skin turned brown over time under the bright Vegas sun.
Here is the thing, Mike. You asked if anyone was offended. At least nineteen of your customers say they are. You opened this can of worms. What would you think if you sent me a pm and I responded only with the photo you posted.
Quote: billryanQuote: WizardHere is one of my garden gnomes. The strange thing about him is he was white when born but his skin turned brown over time under the bright Vegas sun.
Here is the thing, Mike. You asked if anyone was offended. At least nineteen of your customers say they are. You opened this can of worms. What would you think if you sent me a pm and I responded only with the photo you posted.
I’ll be offended it EB is forced to remove the avatar at this point.
Quote: billryanHere is the thing, Mike. You asked if anyone was offended. At least nineteen of your customers say they are. You opened this can of worms. What would you think if you sent me a pm and I responded only with the photo you posted.
Those voting choices were just jokes in a thread having nothing to do with EB's avatar. They were never meant to decide the matter.
If you did that, it would depend on context, but I might not send you any longer.
Like I wrote in another post, if this is what people are upset about in April 2020, then I am happy for them.
That's exactly what you should have said to the person who complained about Max's Avatar, and for that matter, anyone who's ever complained about someone else's Avatar that wasn't x-rated or significantly/obviously offensive.Quote: Wizard
Like I wrote in another post, if this is what people are upset about in April 2020, then I am happy for them.
For me, and probably some others.... this this isn't really about Bob's Avatar. It's about the other people that were forced to take theirs down. There's 21 people offended by Bob's Avatar, so let's be fair and have him take his down. Do you think there's 21 people that were offended by the Putin Avatar? I don't see how a rainbow flag isn't political(?)
I asked before, does it matter what the actual Avatar is or does it matter what it represents? Would a doppelganger Avatar of Putin be against the rules?
