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rainman
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December 7th, 2014 at 7:35:59 AM permalink
Dear Axel, We had a bet/wager that I believe I won, it's been 2 months and I haven't received anything yet. Did you receive my last PM?
MrV
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December 7th, 2014 at 10:05:54 AM permalink
As the bet was a private bet between members, rule four precludes the OP discussing it here.
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AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2014 at 10:35:21 AM permalink
Quote: rainman

Dear Axel, We had a bet/wager that I believe I won, it's been 2 months and I haven't received anything yet. Did you receive my last PM?

I sent it to Lem66 and told him you slept with his Boyfriend.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Gandler
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December 7th, 2014 at 10:40:39 AM permalink
Perhaps the wise thing to do is not to make bets with strangers on the internet who you have no way to track down, and there is no way to enforce the agreement.
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onenickelmiracle
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December 7th, 2014 at 10:53:34 AM permalink
I do remember Wizard mentioning a deal gone wrong with juicyjenny which was obviously a private communication, so precedent has been set. A bet doesn't include a reasonable expectation of privacy to hide nonpayment.

Either way I would think a bet can be mentioned since it could be a public post in theory but since edited. Leave it to the welsher to admit it was a private message. Honestly did anyone ever think messages were to be private when wagers were concerned and not think them to be used to be used as documentation protecting nonpayment with shame as a last resort. I always expected if I made a bet, I could be able to discuss it and would.
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MrV
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December 7th, 2014 at 11:12:56 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

A bet doesn't include a reasonable expectation of privacy to hide nonpayment.



Of course it does.

A bet made privately via email is most assuredly NOT in the public domain.

I don't care if they're both card-carrying members of WOV: it's private, so mentioning the details / identity of the alleged welsher on this board is, per rule four, grounds for suspension.

*Unless of course you WRITE the rules, in which case, by definition, you can do whatever you want*
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AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2014 at 11:25:17 AM permalink
I'd want to know why someone wanted to make a private bet in the first place. I'd wonder if they intended to do this in the fist place had they lost.

I'm wondering if the OP made a larger bet than normal with someone who normally pays, however this bet was more than they could handle.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
rainman
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December 7th, 2014 at 11:31:10 AM permalink
Huge advantage play, Make as many bets as you can, collect the winners and don't pay the losers. +++EV until you get your ass beat of course. :)
AxelWolf
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December 7th, 2014 at 11:35:47 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Perhaps the wise thing to do is not to make bets with strangers on the internet who you have no way to track down, and there is no way to enforce the agreement.

Perhaps, however for the most part it's been safe betting on here. It's also fun. They might have had a good history with the person.

I wouldn't make a large bet without assurance id get paid. If its small enough then both parties shouldn't have a problem posting about it.

OP should post it up and take his chances on a suspension. Ask what the punishment is
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Boz
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December 7th, 2014 at 11:43:28 AM permalink
And from someone who has had dealings with the OP, he is a stand up guy whose word is gold on here. I agree with Axel, post it and take the chance of suspension as a community service.

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