AxelWolf
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May 2nd, 2020 at 4:48:31 AM permalink
Quote: TonyTwoEyes

I was going to do the mobile app thing but William Hill said I need a sports book open to activate it for the first time.

It isn't for everybody, however, there are offshore books that for the most part are pretty reputable. You might want to look into that. I found one the other day. I deposited, played, cashed out, and everything went smoothly(my turnaround was like 2 days from deposit, playing to cash out). I didn't even have to verify my ID, address or anything like that, they basically just verified my mobile phone number via a text. I called them two times, they answered and more than helpful. The nice thing is with your initial deposit you have positive EV.

Now they're sending me some free bets(it was for wagering on the horses) and other things with my very limited amount of action. I regret not depositing more and taking full advantage, but for the most part, I start off low until I get in at least one cash out.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Keyser
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May 2nd, 2020 at 3:31:12 PM permalink
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If a casino is large enough and busy enough, I can't see how they can possibly keep up with wiping machines and everything else that's needed to be wiped down.

I hear some casinos are going to go to a cashless system where money is added to your players card and then you use that like a debit or credit card. Perhaps something similar to how the online casinos in Atlantic City work. This will not be good for Advantage players. Then again, it could present some other opportunity's but I'm not too hopeful on that.




"This new system, called PlayOn, allows gamblers to collect casino chips using just a debit card, It eliminates the need to visit an ATM or the cashierís window between hands. Patrons inside the casino are able to withdraw $50 to $3,000 using this system.

There is a $4.00 fee every time someone uses PlayOn. These gamblers will also be charged a 2.5% fee on the amount of money they withdraw. The system does not allow credit cards to withdraw money.

Now, The D Casino, The Palms, Golden Gate, and the Strat are all using this new system. Itís an exciting time to be a gambler in Las Vegas. It seems likely that more cashless gambling options will become available throughout the city soon."- can't find the link again


So we'll have cashless sytems, we'll have to wait in a line, provide id and and then pay $4 for the card and we'll also be charge a 2.5% fee on the money to withdraw money. We'll have to pay to park, 6/5 bj, triple zero roulette, and we'll have to wear a mask, we'll have to have our temperature taken. and pay a resort fee to stay at the casino? NO THANK YOU D!
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SOOPOO
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May 2nd, 2020 at 5:19:04 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Itís an exciting time to be a gambler in Las Vegas.



Please tell me this is not dated in April or May!?

So only costs $1,029 to get $1,000 in chips? Sounds reasonable to me! (NOT)
Keyser
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May 2nd, 2020 at 5:21:04 PM permalink
I'm not sure of the date. I just now noticed that my link didn't post with the article. Arg!!! I will try and find it again.
AxelWolf
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May 3rd, 2020 at 5:31:17 AM permalink
Nevada Gaming Control Board Establishes Minimum Standards for Reopening Casinos

https://www.pokernewsdaily.com/nevada-gaming-control-board-establishes-minimum-standards-for-reopening-casinos-33616/?fbclid=IwAR1dlPZyR2I-PxqmsNOUEzu_wsuvxEYREd6CsKJ5UtxtlUYfWbbx6eSb5d4
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SOOPOO
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May 3rd, 2020 at 5:55:51 AM permalink
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Nevada Gaming Control Board Establishes Minimum Standards for Reopening Casinos

https://www.pokernewsdaily.com/nevada-gaming-control-board-establishes-minimum-standards-for-reopening-casinos-33616/?fbclid=IwAR1dlPZyR2I-PxqmsNOUEzu_wsuvxEYREd6CsKJ5UtxtlUYfWbbx6eSb5d4



If temporary this is at least a start. But there is no way that casinos can make money in the long term with those rules. Imagine any other business having to only have at a maximum half of their business running at any time. But their costs are not half. The poker dealer costs the same. The BJ dealer costs the same. The engineer costs the same.

Time to short casino stocks.....
mcallister3200
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May 3rd, 2020 at 6:08:09 AM permalink
For poker if theyíre collecting the same max rake and the blinds/buttons just rotate through 4 players itís not any different the price to play 4 handed for the players just essentially doubles just doesnít have anything to do with house profit as long as theyíre collecting the same blinds every hand, just change the rake cap. Tournaments would be gone though. Poker players arenít going to play like that though mostly, poker rooms really just arenít going to be opening for a long time if ever for the most part I donít think probably just like three strip properties, the orleans and maybe one other local or DT room.

Other tables, the minimums have to go up eliminating low minimum tables or the low limits that remain have to be converted to stadium gaming or electronic, thereís just no other realistic way with the guidelines.
SOOPOO
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May 3rd, 2020 at 6:53:43 AM permalink
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For poker if theyíre collecting the same max rake and the blinds/buttons just rotate through 4 players itís not any different the price to play 4 handed for the players just essentially doubles just doesnít have anything to do with house profit as long as theyíre collecting the same blinds every hand, just change the rake cap. Tournaments would be gone though. Poker players arenít going to play like that though mostly, poker rooms really just arenít going to be opening for a long time if ever for the most part I donít think probably just like three strip properties, the orleans and maybe one other local or DT room.

Other tables, the minimums have to go up eliminating low minimum tables or the low limits that remain have to be converted to stadium gaming or electronic, thereís just no other realistic way with the guidelines.



It's easy to say "raise minimums", but if casinos had the players that were willing to play at the higher levels the minimums would have been raised before the pandemic. You think the Orleans didn't want to have minimum $25 Blackjack tables last year? Of course they did, but they knew their clientele wouldn't support enough of them. If the Rio raises the minimum on Pai Gow to $50, I'm probably not playing.

As far as poker, I'm not a casino poker player, but I think being limited to 4 handed makes it not nearly as attractive a game for many players. Getting raked every 4th hand.... plus the tip.....

Slot players I think will be fine, but the volume of course will be down due to the rules.
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May 3rd, 2020 at 8:12:46 AM permalink
There's a more demanding requirement than anything having to do with safety, cleanliness, or profitability of a casino in most jurisdictions.

State revenue.

I don't know how much the casino business provides to the state of Nevada, but almost everywhere else gambling is a significant source of state revenue.

Regulators will be more focused on sustaining the cash flow of casinos into state coffers than being worried about how often the casino disinfects the toke boxes.

There will be a lot of small-print boilerplate "guidance" about all of the new normal. But the never-ending need of state governments for money, along with the damage done to other sources of state revenue (loss of sales and income tax revenue from people who are out of work and cannot buy things) that will have them paying lip service to all these rules. Not right away. But soon enough.
TonyTwoEyes
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May 3rd, 2020 at 8:21:47 AM permalink
Thanks AxelWolf. That is likely what I will do if there are no physical locations available on May 16th.

Did this site offer odds on NASCAR?

Some offshore books I looked into only offered head to head betting on driver vs driver. Basically coin flip bets. None of the long-shot bets typical of Vegas, like Clint Bowyer 25-1 to win, were offered.
Can I get some drink tickets with that bet?

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