NV Gov. Announces Casinos not Opening till phase 3 or 4
Quote: darkozIDK it just boggles the mind a bit.
Do you consider the Holocaust to have been a minor incident? Only 6 million dead in six years?
Seriously asking
Yes, but I don't think I would drastically change my lifestyle because of it. I also think it`is quite different. The holocaust is people intentionally torturing and killing others. I don't see anyway at all that it compares to a pandemic,
Quote: ChumpChangeCases & deaths will go up by a factor of 10 every 6 to 9 days with life as normal. After 2-3 months you'll find your hometown is one-third dead. That's why this could all end in 2-3 months.
No way the town is one-third dead. The true death rate from this is likely under 1%. Even the official cases we've counted in the US it's only less than 6%. And then are many incidents of asymptomatic or mild cases, and people like that are very unlikely to get tested so actual cases are very undercounted, but deaths will be much less undercounted. So if we did ABSOLUTELY nothing, I still would expect a US death toll of under 5 million. Good chance under 3 million.
I think 1918 all over again is one of the "worst case scenarios" out of this.
Quote: tringlomaneNo way the town is one-third dead. The true death rate from this is likely under 1%. Even the official cases we've counted in the US it's only less than 6%. And then are many incidents of asymptomatic or mild cases, and people like that are very unlikely to get tested so actual cases are very undercounted, but deaths will be much less undercounted. So if we did ABSOLUTELY nothing, I still would expect a US death toll of under 5 million. Good chance under 3 million.
I think 1918 all over again is one of the "worst case scenarios" out of this.
1918 was only 675,000 dead in the US. It was millions around the world.
A death toll of 3 million US dead would make this five times worse for us than the Spanish Flu
However, I believe I also see numerous examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. The pandemic is such a perfect example because real "experts" cannot agree. Scientists and medical researchers who work with diseases are themselves all over the map with their prognostications. Just saying... Also, very interesting, don'cher Know?
Quote: ManOfTheLibrarySome casinos in Las Vegas will open the week of May 25to May 31 with a 100% chance. A lesser chance of casinos opening up May 16 to May 24 but still possible.
I would bet you are right, but take out the "100%" chance. If there is a spike in deaths/hospitalizations it certainly could be delayed.
Please quote where I said I don't think it's as bad as people say and then I'll be happy to address those numbers.Quote: billryan70,000 dead in six weeks and you think it isn't as bad as people say? When does it get bad? 100,000? 500,000?
I said, I don't believe it's as bad as some people would have you believe(we are all going to die). I also don't believe we should be sending people out to eat a bunch of ice cream in Chinatown.
I never believed in nonsense that people claim, because it's nonsense. Now if they're talking facts and logic that's no longer nonsense and I will believe that.
p.s. They keep stuff locked down for another 4 months for all I care. As long as I got food, electricity and internet, I'm good.
You sure about those numbers? Given 264k deaths and 3.7MM infected so far, that would mean everyone on the planet will have contracted coronavirus within 5 weeks, and everyone on the planet will be dead in 6.Quote: ChumpChangeCases & deaths will go up by a factor of 10 every 6 to 9 days with life as normal. After 2-3 months you'll find your hometown is one-third dead. That's why this could all end in 2-3 months.
Quote: JoemanYou sure about those numbers? Given 264k deaths and 3.7MM infected so far, that would mean everyone on the planet will have contracted coronavirus within 5 weeks, and everyone on the planet will be dead in 6.
Don't know if those numbers are correct but Covid-19 has a two to five percent mortality rate although it would probably get exacerbated by the lack of medicine due to overwhelmed hospitals
Since there is a survival rate everyone would not be dead if the entire world got infected. Otherwise it would be a 100% mortality rate and we would already be in dire straits
Exactly! But if you run the math on the claim:Quote: darkozDon't know if those numbers are correct but Covid-19 has a two to five percent mortality rate although it would probably get exacerbated by the lack of medicine due to overwhelmed hospitals
Since there is a survival rate everyone would not be dead if the entire world got infected. Otherwise it would be a 100% mortality rate and we would already be in dire straits
you get a ghost planet by the end of June! Hence my skepticism of said claim.Quote:Cases & deaths will go up by a factor of 10 every 6 to 9 days with life as normal.
If there is an open Casino on the 16th I hope to find it. Going to be in town just to load up the sports betting app at South Point for the NASCAR Darlington race. Sure would be nice to get in a little Video Poker, Slots and/or Table Gaming too.
Does anyone think Sigma Derby will make it back at The D after things reopen?
Quote: TonyTwoEyesI sure hope you are right ManOfTheLibrary. The Orleans just canceled my reservations for the 15th.
If there is an open Casino on the 16th I hope to find it. Going to be in town just to load up the sports betting app at South Point for the NASCAR Darlington race. Sure would be nice to get in a little Video Poker, Slots and/or Table Gaming too.
Does anyone think Sigma Derby will make it back at The D after things reopen?
If you're really insistent on sports betting, head up to South Point. They are doing drive up signups for mobile betting from 11a-6p.
https://southpointcasino.com/casino/sports-book/mobile-sports-wagering
The plan is to return the following Memorial Day weekend to celebrate casino re-openings with family and friends in tow..... Tiger vs Phil / Manning vs Brady Golf should have some interesting prop bets, Coke 600 will provide hours of action and hopefully some soccer is going on too.
Keeping the fingers crossed that the memorial weekend reservations hold up this time.
Quote: AlanMendelsonThere is a great disconnect between the number of cases and when casinos will be allowed to reopen.
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying they should already be open in Nevada in your opinion? Casinos unfortunately will be one of the more dangerous places to open overall, even more so if they still permit smoking.
Quote: AlanMendelsonNo. I think casinos will be the last to open.
As well they should be. If it went in order of how likely patrons are to transit the virus amongst each other.
I have no idea if this is a fact but I read once where the entire air supply inside the Excalibur totally exchanged in an 8 minute time period? It would seem to me, if the HVAC people included some kind of disinfectant and UV light to the air coming in, than the chances of patrons inhaling virus would be much better?
IDK. But I did post a link at DT: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/nevada-brothels-unveil-temp-taking-mask-wearing-plans-reopen.
I've really been rooting for the girls and I hope they can open up soon. Girls gotta eat to.
What about some kind of personal HEPA air filtration system coupled with safe air supply?
not for the smokers😎Quote: tringlomaneI'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying they should already be open in Nevada in your opinion? Casinos unfortunately will be one of the more dangerous places to open overall, even more so if they still permit smoking.
that's ridiculous.Quote: petroglyphWon't casino air filtration systems help alleviate chances of contracting Covid?
I have no idea if this is a fact but I read once where the entire air supply inside the Excalibur totally exchanged in an 8 minute time period? It would seem to me, if the HVAC people included some kind of disinfectant and UV light to the air coming in, than the chances of patrons inhaling virus would be much better?
IDK. But I did post a link at DT: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/nevada-brothels-unveil-temp-taking-mask-wearing-plans-reopen.
I've really been rooting for the girls and I hope they can open up soon. Girls gotta eat to.
Quote: AxelWolfthat's ridiculous.
Maybe they can pump Lysol into the system, like they supposedly do with extra oxygen, and replace the neon lights with UV ones that fry the virus.
I assume you are talking about the brothels reopening. Do you think that street walkers, escorts, call girls, johns and pimps all quarantined?Quote: AxelWolfthat's ridiculous.
If we are concerned about controlling the virus, it makes sense [if you read the link] to corner it with people that are checked for all kinds of health issues daily, weekly and monthly.
As always, I prefer potential rapists and pedo's have a place to dispense their appetites legally and as safely for everyone as possible, then to be out stalking.
I don't think the narcotic trade went away either. I read in SF the authority's were even giving out small amounts to keep addicts locked down, or at least keep them in one area.
If it was the air purification you think ridiculous, I don't know enough about it, but I think it's feasible. Maybe not. But if they can figure out how to keep submarines underwater for weeks, then they can purify casino air. At least as well as the air surrounding grocery check outs.
What about casino air temperature? If the virus dies in higher temps, what temp is needed?
If casino air were at 80 degrees would it be safer?
Another question: how hot can it be in casinos for the slots and various computer equipment to still operate?
Thanks.
Pedo's and rapist probably shouldn't have place to dispense anything anywhere unless it's from behind bars. Oh, I see you said potential. Are there statistics on that?Quote: petroglyphI assume you are talking about the brothels reopening. Do you think that street walkers, escorts, call girls, johns and pimps all quarantined?
If we are concerned about controlling the virus, it makes sense [if you read the link] to corner it with people that are checked for all kinds of health issues daily, weekly and monthly.
As always, I prefer potential rapists and pedo's have a place to dispense their appetites legally and as safely for everyone as possible, then to be out stalking.
I don't think the narcotic trade went away either. I read in SF the authority's were even giving out small amounts to keep addicts locked down, or at least keep them in one area.
If it was the air purification you think ridiculous, I don't know enough about it, but I think it's feasible. Maybe not. But if they can figure out how to keep submarines underwater for weeks, then they can purify casino air. At least as well as the air surrounding grocery check outs.
I get what you're saying, I still think it's ridiculous. I don't have a good argument why.
That's an interesting point. My local card room is (or was, last time I was there) kept near ice box conditions. They said they did this to reduce the spread of germs! I wonder if they will (or should) change their tune.Quote: AlanMendelsonI'm curious...
What about casino air temperature? If the virus dies in higher temps, what temp is needed?
If casino air were at 80 degrees would it be safer?
Quote: AlanMendelsonI'm curious...
What about casino air temperature? If the virus dies in higher temps, what temp is needed?
If casino air were at 80 degrees would it be safer?
Another question: how hot can it be in casinos for the slots and various computer equipment to still operate?
Thanks.
No, it's going to be 98.6 degrees outside and the virus will not die. Maybe the hot sidewalks will fry it, but I doubt it.
The city of Las Vegas was a sad sight. We could not understand why all these small locals joints like Dotty's and were still locked up. It's not like they have large crowds of tourists. Sad to see a one size fits all edict slammed down onto the small working class joints providing essential services to the hardworking locals and savvy drive in players.
The saddest by far was The Alamo at the TA Truck stop. From what we could tell the truckers had been screwed out of using their showers and lounge just because they had to pass through the casino to get to the amenity. We could not understand that logic and are hopeful that there is a back entrance we were unaware of. It seems criminal to issue such a formal insult the truckers maintaining our supply chains. Is there no work around??
Small sections of Fremont were accessible and there were a few restaurants operating downtown. Hennessy's Tavern welcomed us with draft beers and cooked to order burgers. They were deliciously charbroiled a perfect medium to medium rare and served by a warm and inviting waitress, thankful to be talking to tourists.
Back on the Strip there were a few spots going, like Benihana's, RA Sushi and Stripburger. Davidoff of Geneva Cigar Bar was also open and served us the most refreshing draft beer of the day. We walked over to TI and asked the lone rep if our reservations for May 23 were still good? He had no idea, said everything was up in the air in a dejected voice.
It was truly painful to see America's greatest city knocked down so badly...... What did she ever do to deserve such despicable treatment by the powers that be?
It was at this moment that Vegas fought back like only Vegas can.... Like a hero ridding in to save the day, a magnificent image of hope and future glory came into frame. It was none other than Mr. Las Vegas himself... Wayne Newton, Black Shirt, Black Glasses and that magical smile....ridding a bicycle down the Las Vegas Strip!!!
Seeing Wayne up close under these dire circumstances was as good as hitting a Jackpot. Thank You Wayne!! Thanks for proving that Vegas still pays out even when all odds are against her!
PS: Thanks to Kevin Harvick too... for ensuring my South Point account has 50% more cash in it today than it did Saturday.
Quote: TonyTwoEyesMany thanks to the South Point for the Valet Stand sports betting signup. Everything went smoothly at 11 am on Saturday. Their app loaded easily onto a 4 G laptop. We filled out forms for South Point and the IRS then the next step was to hand em cash. I sure have missed handing cash to the fine folks at South Point.
The city of Las Vegas was a sad sight. We could not understand why all these small locals joints like Dotty's and were still locked up. It's not like they have large crowds of tourists. Sad to see a one size fits all edict slammed down onto the small working class joints providing essential services to the hardworking locals and savvy drive in players.
The saddest by far was The Alamo at the TA Truck stop. From what we could tell the truckers had been screwed out of using their showers and lounge just because they had to pass through the casino to get to the amenity. We could not understand that logic and are hopeful that there is a back entrance we were unaware of. It seems criminal to issue such a formal insult the truckers maintaining our supply chains. Is there no work around??
Small sections of Fremont were accessible and there were a few restaurants operating downtown. Hennessy's Tavern welcomed us with draft beers and cooked to order burgers. They were deliciously charbroiled a perfect medium to medium rare and served by a warm and inviting waitress, thankful to be talking to tourists.
Back on the Strip there were a few spots going, like Benihana's, RA Sushi and Stripburger. Davidoff of Geneva Cigar Bar was also open and served us the most refreshing draft beer of the day. We walked over to TI and asked the lone rep if our reservations for May 23 were still good? He had no idea, said everything was up in the air in a dejected voice.
It was truly painful to see America's greatest city knocked down so badly...... What did she ever do to deserve such despicable treatment by the powers that be?
It was at this moment that Vegas fought back like only Vegas can.... Like a hero ridding in to save the day, a magnificent image of hope and future glory came into frame. It was none other than Mr. Las Vegas himself... Wayne Newton, Black Shirt, Black Glasses and that magical smile....ridding a bicycle down the Las Vegas Strip!!!
Seeing Wayne up close under these dire circumstances was as good as hitting a Jackpot. Thank You Wayne!! Thanks for proving that Vegas still pays out even when all odds are against her!
PS: Thanks to Kevin Harvick too... for ensuring my South Point account has 50% more cash in it today than it did Saturday.
Congrats, I hoped you bet on Harvick! His quarantine hair cut from his wife though. Yikes. Lol
Quote: DeMangoI hope in the future there will be accountability for all parties that have tried to destroy Las Vegas and America. True we did not know much at first, but the tide has turned.
The tide has turned? Dude, we're just getting started with this. Get back to me in 2021.
Quote: DeMangoI hope in the future there will be accountability for all parties that have tried to destroy Las Vegas and America. True we did not know much at first, but the tide has turned.
Are you still pushing the no worse than the annual flu theory?
Quote: DeMangoI hope in the future there will be accountability for all parties that have tried to destroy Las Vegas and America. True we did not know much at first, but the tide has turned.
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A month ago, this poster was insisting that we'd barely hit 20,000 dead. Of course, once that happened, he never brought up that model again. Often mistaken, but never in doubt.
This week it's herd immunity, gawd knows what will follow the week after.
I really hope you are right DeMango, rampant unemployment, poverty and starvation seems like a cure much worse than a disease.
Quote: TonyTwoEyesThanks tringlomane and DeMango. Harvick wasn't the first pick but at 8-1 with the #1 pit stall.... I made sure to get in a bailout bet on him while checking out that awesome gas station in Jean. Guarantee he won't be 8-1 on Wednesday. Delana working that leaf blower was a great clip...
I really hope you are right DeMango, rampant unemployment, poverty and starvation seems like a cure much worse than a disease.
Having been both sick and homeless at different points in my life, I will take the homeless situation first.
Trust me, it isn't that bad. Not like people are making it out to be.
Quote: TonyTwoEyesLA is covered with tent cities. You want to see a public health crisis visit some of our homeless encampments. Typhoid Fever, Typhus & Tuberculosis spread like wildfire through these makeshift villages. Not to mention the associated rapes, murders, overdoses and suicides. Spend some time in Downtown LA, trust me it is bad.
Yeah I heard horror stories about NYC homeless as well. Once I went homeless in NYC I realized it was mostly people spreading rumors.
And yes, I have seen the tent cities in LA as I lived in LA for awhile ( though not homeless)
It's still not the end of the world. Trust me, you would survive.
Funny you are afraid of catching disease like tuberculosis (which you should have been inoculated against) but you have no problem catching Coronavirus which has no cure.
I went with 60k, pretty close once you minus out the deaths where covid was present, but not the cause of death.Quote: billryanA month ago, this poster was insisting that we'd barely hit 20,000 dead. Of course, once that happened, he never brought up that model again. Often mistaken, but never in doubt.
This week it's herd immunity, gawd knows what will follow the week after.
Quote: DeMangoI went with 60k, pretty close once you minus out the deaths where covid was present, but not the cause of death.
Yeah only 30,000 off.
A great depression is a lousy cure. The last time we had a great depression it ended with WWII. Flattening cities will certainly flatten the curve if that is the direction you want to go.
Quote: TonyTwoEyesThat's the point rampant poverty results in the spread of diseases once thought to have been wiped out. Nothing puts pressure on a health system than 30% unemployment forcing millions into the emergency room for their only source of medical care.
A great depression is a lousy cure. The last time we had a great depression it ended with WWII. Flattening cities will certainly flatten the curve if that is the direction you want to go.
Can you point to a link where you get that info about homeless and rampant disease spread
I was homeless for two years in NYC which has thousands of homeless and I never contracted a disease during that time. Maybe a common cold if that
Quote: DeMangoI went with 60k, pretty close once you minus out the deaths where covid was present, but not the cause of death.
Did the virus stop killing this week? Maybe in Australia, South Korea, New Zealand. But we keep losing between 1k and 2k Americans a day over this. That's another 30k-60k in a month at that rate. And basic science leans to cases increasing the more that we reopen. A majority of experts expect a 2nd wave. So yeah, far from over.
Re: hookers. They are now reporting coronavirius is carried in the semen of infected men. Despite condom laws, I don't see that working out well for anybody. Can't exactly douche or gargle with Lysol and expect to survive it. Just a heads-up to those who partake.
