Should I clamp down on free speech?
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By the way, I took a look at that OSU cheerleader web site. Once I tore my eyes from the photos, I thought you might have had a problem doing the same: my count is that all six of those girls list their hometowns as being in Oregon. I guess Jerry didn't bother to check that out either -- not only didn't they recruit their entire squad from California, perhaps they didn't need to go out of state for any of them. Is that the full squad?
Quote: WizardMkl, didn't you just say in page 1, "I, for one, promise from this point forward not to respond to, reference, or even tangentially engage in any kind of discussion with JerryLogan or EvenBob."
Wizard, are you're familiar with the parable of the turtle and the scorpion?
Quote: DocHey thecesspit! I hope you feel thoroughly put in your place for falsely accusing Jerry of having put someone on ignore. Wait a sec...well, I guess you didn't make such an accusation after all.
Ironically, I accused him of being unable to read pots and replying to words that were never written.
Quote:
By the way, I took a look at that OSU cheerleader web site. Once I tore my eyes from the photos, I thought you might have had a problem doing the same: my count is that all six of those girls list their hometowns as being in Oregon. I guess Jerry didn't bother to check that out either -- not only didn't they recruit their entire squad from California, perhaps they didn't need to go out of state for any of them. Is that the full squad?
I best Mr Logan better pull up his pants, then. I hope he doesn't get all sissy and a girly-man about being found out, AGAIN.
Quote: NareedWizard, are you're familiar with the parable of the turtle and the scorpion?
Hey, Nareed, don't be a jerk about this. I slipped up; I admitted it; I apologized. I know you don't like me, but your basis for that seems to be merely that you and I often disagree. I'm fine with that; you don't seem to be.
And as far as the silly little parable you refer to, if you're implying that it's in my nature to lie (or to kill people who try to help me), I must say, I rather resent that. You're in the same nasty league as some others when you say such things. You have no call to criticize ME, if you do the same thing yourself.
Quote: AZDuffman[So maybe consider a "policy" as such:
1. The site is for grown-ups and we (you) will treat people as such.
2. Those who want to be treated as grown-ups must act like grown-ups.
3. Acting not like a grown-up shall be decided like the Supreme Court on indecency--we (you) know it when you see it.
4. The site is owned by the Wizard and a business, not a democracy. Those who want a forum with no rules at all should go to usenet at googlegroups
5. Consider your visit to this site as you would a picnic at a park, don't trash it but rather leave it better than you found it.
I like the "policy", but really, does the Wizard or Bluejay have time to police the site?
I think that the entire site gets fully moderated by volunteers (I vote my republican friend AZ or DJ) or it remains as it is. The site has ignore functions and they work. We'll just have to learn to filter through the crap, and we all have an opinion of what that crap is. I'm not any more right than anyone else.
Quote: rxwineQuote:http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t4359/
White Pride World Wide
No profanity.
Avoid racial epithets.
No personal flames
I was going to suggest you try out Stormfront org. because they don't like profanity there either. But I see they'd probably throw you out for flames and racial epithets.
Flames would eliminate more than half the posters here. But please identify a factual example of any racial epithets made by me.
Quote: Wizard
I have the greatest of respect for Bryan Bailey. I just had a look at his Forum Rules. I don't want to just copy and paste them here, because that would violate rule 1.7. However, they look well thought out and reasonable. I wouldn't just copy them exactly, but might use them as a place to start.
Please have a look at them via the link above. Would you object to any of those rules applied here? I like his rule 1.16.
Having read the forum rules in this link, I cannot find a reason to disagree with any of them, nor do I see why anyone would... unless they feel that those rules would inhibit their ability to do something that others would find unacceptable... thus the rules. I can't imagine a much better list from which this site might create its own list of rules of conduct. I don't have to tell anyone who has spent a couple of weeks or more on this site who the main culprits are... they know who they are are well.
I am pretty sure that the Wiz was inspired to pose this question because this site has become cluttered with garbage posts and nasty attacks from a very small minority and the majority has expressed their collective displeasure. I say, lay down the law and kick the snot out of anyone who flaunts those laws. They'll either make an effort to be kind to the community and respect (all of) its members or they won't and if they choose not to play nice then I say close their account. They won't be missed.
If you take pleasure in making nasty and pointed attacks against another member or simply posting for the sake of becoming the most prolific poster (even if most of your posts have little or nothing to do with the topic at hand) OR making the same comment again and again (even if you do mix up the order of your words from time to time) then you probably won't like the list of rules listed in the link above. Guess what, those rules have been put in place because of people just like you. If you don't like those rules, that's probably because you are a troll, a nuisance poster or just a really annoying person who needs to find a hobby.
For anyone reading this who feels that some of these comments may have been directed at you, rather than defending yourself or your freedoms or your version of what is or is not acceptable, why not just grow up, stop acting like a jerk and enjoy this great site. If you don't want to enjoy it - get lost, the rest of us do.
Quote: JerryLoganFlames would eliminate more than half the posters here. But please identify a factual example of any racial epithets made by me.
I assumed racist would be a natural fit since you seem to have something negative to say about everything more than most. If in fact, you are not one, that seems more amazing than if you were.
lolololol as mrjjjwhats his face would say.
I also say this is Mike's living room, so as a guest I'm not going to come here and pee all over his carpet. I had a friend do something like that once. He got an exasperated talking to by me, but he never did it again. If he had done it a second time he wouldn't have been welcome in my home anymore.
Quote: rxwineI assumed racist would be a natural fit since you seem to have something negative to say about everything more than most. If in fact, you are not one, that seems more amazing than if you were.
I do have more negative things to say about most topics, but that's what I'm made of and that's why I believe I've been so successful in my work and marriage. I spot issues, exceptions, and BS fast, I solve problems, I quickly eliminate nonsense, and I'm very, very efficient. At times that requires abrasive and unpleasant straight talk.
My IQ is nowhere near 190 and I barely made it through college with a degree. But I am no racist. Am I amazing or what.
Thanks (I think).Quote: boymimbo...I vote my republican friend AZ or DJ...
For the record, I am a moderator on a DJ message board, and I use my power very sparingly.
Of course, the only problems we ever have is spam: I.E. The occasional first time poster, with a laundry list of items for sale. Those posts get deleted. We don't have the kind of backstabbing that's been going on here. Then again, we don't have a lot of activity at all. Just a few posts per day.
Ditto.Quote: odiousgambitIs there some kind of known rule about going to a thread that is longer than 10 posts? I generally quit going to long threads, or if I do a quick check will tell me it has wandered, and I avoid all this stuff. I had no idea things were getting out of hand.
I went back to one thread out of curiosity and saw name-calling escalate to the point of one member telling another member "Fuck you"
Personally, I have no objection to 'foul language'.
I.E. Making a statement such as "The xxx's Slot Club program is fucked up" won't even get a rise out of me, or most members here.
But personal attacks, with or without foul language, is going over the line.
Quote: mkl654321Hey, Nareed, don't be a jerk about this. I slipped up; I admitted it; I apologized.
And here I suppose you tripped.
Quote:I know you don't like me, but your basis for that seems to be merely that you and I often disagree. I'm fine with that; you don't seem to be.
My problem is your instant resort to ad-homminem attacks and name-calling whenever anyone disagrees with you.
Quote:And as far as the silly little parable you refer to, if you're implying that it's in my nature to lie (or to kill people who try to help me), I must say, I rather resent that.
You do know parables are metaphors not to be taken literally, but which point to a moral. In this case the point is people act according to their nature most of the time, if not always. As regards to you, it means you will insult and degrade those you disagree with or don't like, as you have amply demonstrated in this thread. If you resent that, then try to change your attitude.
Quote: NareedYou do know parables are metaphors not to be taken literally, but which point to a moral. In this case the point is people act according to their nature most of the time, if not always. As regards to you, it means you will insult and degrade those you disagree with or don't like, as you have amply demonstrated in this thread. If you resent that, then try to change your attitude.
And you are so utterly blind as not to see that you were insulting me? Or are you saying that it's all right for YOU to be insulting, whenever you choose to be? You have attacked me over a dozen times on various threads, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DISAGREED WITH ME.
I'm doubt that you don't realize that saying "you WILL insult and degrade...blah blah" is hyperbole at best. In point of fact, I have disagreed with many people, and the vast majority of the time, in a perfectly civil manner. Crap on the previous statement if it gives you pleasure to do so.
If there's one thing I hate, Nareed, it's hypocrisy. As in: your criticizing my (purported) behavior while engaging in that same behavior yourself.
Quote: mkl654321And you are so utterly blind as not to see that you were insulting me?
What's the insult? A lion will kill to eat, a dog will mark his territory, you will insult other posters and otherwise be inconsiderate of other people. It's not worth getting excited about.
Quote:If there's one thing I hate, Nareed, it's hypocrisy.
I beileve it. Hypocrites usually cannot stand hypocrisy in other people.
Quote: NareedWhat's the insult? A lion will kill to eat, a dog will mark his territory, you will insult other posters and otherwise be inconsiderate of other people. It's not worth getting excited about. I beileve it. Hypocrites usually cannot stand hypocrisy in other people.
OK. This is truly beyond your understanding. I get it. Go on insulting me, using whatever justification you wish. Just like certain other posters. Adios.
Quote: dmIf you would not allow any discussion about betting systems you would remove a major part of the junk.
I've thought about that. You're not the first to suggest it. There is a separate category for betting systems. I don't force anybody to go into that sty. However, it seems some rational gamblers either are honestly trying to shed light in a dark place, or just enjoy the fray. Either way, it just energizes that topic.
I have pretty much decided in favor of adopting some forum rules, and using the CasinoMeister rules as a starting place. Let's see how that works out.
You are a wise and honorable meister ...Quote: WizardI have pretty much decided in favor of adopting some forum rules, and using the CasinoMeister rules as a starting place. Let's see how that works out.
--Ms. D.
Quote: WizardI have pretty much decided in favor of adopting some forum rules, and using the CasinoMeister rules as a starting place. Let's see how that works out.
I guess it will come down to how any rules are enforced and how rigidly they are enforced. I enjoy a good discussion and that's one of the great things about this site - there are a lot of very informed people who make great contributions here and I learn something new practically every time I log in. To see people banter back and forth and even disagree vehemently about a certain topic is fun and it's interesting to see different perspectives. The issue I have with what's been happening here is that threads get hijacked simply because two or more people decide to use the forum as their personal battlefield. It's not that they have pointed arguments about the subject of discussion within the thread (which is why threads are named; so we can choose to open them up if we feel the subject is something that interests us) but that they look for posts by certain members that they don't like or against whom they have some sort of grudge and then the next 3 pages are overrun with worthless rants and petty name calling.
I applaud your decision to take this step to clean things up a bit. I'm sure it will make this place more enjoyable and less like a schoolyard with a couple of blockheaded bullies blundering around.
Quote: WizardI've thought about that. You're not the first to suggest it. There is a separate category for betting systems. I don't force anybody to go into that sty. However, it seems some rational gamblers either are honestly trying to shed light in a dark place, or just enjoy the fray. Either way, it just energizes that topic.
I have pretty much decided in favor of adopting some forum rules, and using the CasinoMeister rules as a starting place. Let's see how that works out.
By "betting systems", are you distinguishing things like Martingales and other self-refuting systems, i.e., ones that we already know have no value, from methods that have the potential to produce some positive outcome even in a -EV game, such as bankroll management, and strategies than decrease the player disadvantage?
In other words:
1. Snake oil.
2. Ways to improve your gambling experience, even if you still figure to lose.
3. Ways to decrease the house advantage, up to and including turning it into a player advantage, by using some optimizing method.
Do you consider these equivalent, or would you say they all have their own separate place here? And if so, who decides? We've seen plenty of 1. masquerading as 3. lately.....
Quote: mkl654321By "betting systems", are you distinguishing things like Martingales and other self-refuting systems, i.e., ones that we already know have no value, from methods that have the potential to produce some positive outcome even in a -EV game, such as bankroll management, and strategies than decrease the player disadvantage?
In other words:
1. Snake oil.
2. Ways to improve your gambling experience, even if you still figure to lose.
3. Ways to decrease the house advantage, up to and including turning it into a player advantage, by using some optimizing method.
Do you consider these equivalent, or would you say they all have their own separate place here? And if so, who decides? We've seen plenty of 1. masquerading as 3. lately.....
By "betting system" I mean something like the Martingale or the 98steps strategy, in which the bet size depends on past wins and losses. I would not count something like card counting, which I would call a "strategy." Regarding your categories:
1. Your title says it all.
2. I could use an example, but some places are more fun than others to play, and I encourage discussion of that.
3. By all means, those are my favorite posts.
Quote: mkl654321By "betting systems", are you distinguishing things like Martingales and other self-refuting systems, i.e., ones that we already know have no value, from methods that have the potential to produce some positive outcome even in a -EV game, such as bankroll management, and strategies than decrease the player disadvantage?
In other words:
1. Snake oil.
2. Ways to improve your gambling experience, even if you still figure to lose.
3. Ways to decrease the house advantage, up to and including turning it into a player advantage, by using some optimizing method.
Do you consider these equivalent, or would you say they all have their own separate place here? And if so, who decides? We've seen plenty of 1. masquerading as 3. lately.....
Answer: it's Wizard's forum and he doesn't have to engineer what he will or won't censor to anyone here. If you don't like the rules or how you're treated, go start you own forum or go somewhere else.
Quote: ItsCalledSoccerAnswer: it's Wizard's forum and he doesn't have to engineer what he will or won't censor to anyone here. If you don't like the rules or how you're treated, go start you own forum or go somewhere else.
I'm going to assume that something external to this board generated that rather untoward burst of hostility. Bad day at the office?
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These rules went into effect on Nov. ??, 2010. Prior to that date, this forum had a more liberal free speech policy. However, flame wars erupted, and by a vote of 21 to 12, members decided some rules were in order, for the greater benefit of the forum. Posts created prior to the enactment of these rules do not necessarily abide by these rules, and should not be taken as an example of permissible behavior.
- No personal insults. If you disagree with somebody, politely attack the writing, not the writer.
- Respect copyright: Don't post entire articles from other sources. If you must quote without permission, do so sparingly, and properly indicate the source.
- No spam.
- Respect privacy. Do not post any information about someone else that is intended to be private or quote from private communication.
- Do not post the same message more than once. This includes posting the same message in two or more places, and re-posting because nobody replied the first time. If you didn't get a response the first time, chances are nobody else had anything to say about it.
- Keep it PG. No pornographic or violent images or text. Foul language is not specifically prohibited, but should be used sparingly to emphasize a point only, or in quoting another.
- No hijacking: Try to keep threads on topic. If you want to veer off on a tangent, please make a new thread for it.
- Keep it legal: Don't post anything that would violate the laws of Nevada or the United States. For example, anything libelous, or promoting anything obviously illegal.
- No thumbtacking. Don't post one or two words just to keep a thread in the top of the list. If that is your motive, at least add something substantive to say about the topic.
- Betting systems: Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it. However, if you're one of the many mathematically ignorant gamblers who think adding up negative numbers can result in a positive one, please keep your comments restricted to the "betting systems" sty.
If you must blow off steam by making personal insults or using excessive profanity, then you may use the free speech zone. The other rules should be respected, even in the free speech zone.
Quote: WizardHere is a rough draft of some rules. What do you think?
Works for me - it's basically common sense and good manners anyway. The real question is "what happens when someone breaks the rules"?
I'd sort them: 1, 4, 6, 10, 7, 5, 9, 2, 9, 3.
Regarding betting systems: While I understand the sentiment, does the statement that they are worthless really need to be part of the rule? I'd make it simple: 10 Betting systems: Keep your comments and system ideas restricted to the "betting systems" forum. By the way, you ended that rule with "Sty". A "Sty"? As in pig sty? I don't think that betting systems proponents would get the reference.
Quote: WizardHere is a rough draft of some rules. What do you think?
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These rules went into effect on Nov. ??, 2010. Prior to that date, this forum had a more liberal free speech policy. However, flame wars erupted, and by a vote of 21 to 12, members decided some rules were in order, for the greater benefit of the forum. Posts created prior to the enactment of these rules do not necessarily abide by these rules, and should not be taken as an example of permissible behavior.
- No personal insults. If you disagree with somebody, politely attack the writing, not the writer.
- Respect copyright: Don't post entire articles from other sources. If you must quote without permission, do so sparingly, and properly indicate the source.
- No spam.
- Respect privacy. Do not post any information about someone else that is intended to be private or quote from private communication.
- Do not post the same message more than once. This includes posting the same message in two or more places, and re-posting because nobody replied the first time. If you didn't get a response the first time, chances are nobody else had anything to say about it.
- Keep it PG. No pornographic or violent images or text. Foul language is not specifically prohibited, but should be used sparingly to emphasize a point only, or in quoting another.
- No hijacking: Try to keep threads on topic. If you want to veer off on a tangent, please make a new thread for it.
- Keep it legal: Don't post anything that would violate the laws of Nevada or the United States. For example, anything libelous, or promoting anything obviously illegal.
- No thumbtacking. Don't post one or two words just to keep a thread in the top of the list. If that is your motive, at least add something substantive to say about the topic.
- Betting systems: Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it. However, if you're one of the many mathematically ignorant gamblers who think adding up negative numbers can result in a positive one, please keep your comments restricted to the "betting systems" sty.
If you must blow off steam by making personal insults or using excessive profanity, then you may use the free speech zone. The other rules should be respected, even in the free speech zone.
Hmm.... 8, 2, 1, 4, 3, 6, 7, 5, 9, 10.
Quote: WizardHere is a rough draft of some rules. What do you think?
If you must blow off steam by making personal insults or using excessive profanity, then you may use the free speech zone. The other rules should be respected, even in the free speech zone.
I like them all, though I would suggest you put a little detail in the "no spam" one. A line in your sig (like I have but need to update) is accepted almost any place. But I would like to know what you find acceptable and what not.
Quote: boymimboMY question though is how are you going to police this? Are you looking for moderator volunteers?
I'll usually issue warnings first, them temporary bans, then permanent bans. I'll take each violation on a case by case basis.
Quote: AZDuffmanI would suggest you put a little detail in the "no spam" one.
I think most people know what spam is, but it can be hard to define. Kind of like pornography. Usually some canned advertisement that is meant to be posted as often as possible. As an example, somebody this morning put up the same post selling computer components about five times, which I busted on sight.
These usually don't work. They get out of hand and turn people off. The truth is, if you must blow off steam by making personal insults you don't belong on a public forum. Period.
Quote: WizardI'll usually issue warnings first, them temporary bans, then permanent bans. I'll take each violation on a case by case basis.
I think most people know what spam is, but it can be hard to define. Kind of like pornography. Usually some canned advertisement that is meant to be posted as often as possible. As an example, somebody this morning put up the same post selling computer components about five times, which I busted on sight.
Let me say I do like the way you have and are handling it. The benefits of a small site are similar to dealing with a small company. Instead of tryoing to codify a solution to each and every problem your response seems to be along the line of "everyone here is an adult and most people act as such. And if they don't, I (you) will use common sense to handle it."
Please don't take offense at this (it is a compliment, truly) but it is refreshing to find someone who spent so much time in a government bueracracy job who can think on such a simple level. Thanks!
BTW: Do you guys have to bust many spammers? I have yet to see obvious spam here so either little is being posted or you are doing a very good job filtering it.
Quote: WizardHere is a rough draft of some rules. What do you think?
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These rules went into effect on Nov. ??, 2010. Prior to that date, this forum had a more liberal free speech policy. However, flame wars erupted, and by a vote of 21 to 12, members decided some rules were in order, for the greater benefit of the forum. Posts created prior to the enactment of these rules do not necessarily abide by these rules, and should not be taken as an example of permissible behavior.
- No personal insults. If you disagree with somebody, politely attack the writing, not the writer.
- Respect copyright: Don't post entire articles from other sources. If you must quote without permission, do so sparingly, and properly indicate the source.
- No spam.
- Respect privacy. Do not post any information about someone else that is intended to be private or quote from private communication.
- Do not post the same message more than once. This includes posting the same message in two or more places, and re-posting because nobody replied the first time. If you didn't get a response the first time, chances are nobody else had anything to say about it.
- Keep it PG. No pornographic or violent images or text. Foul language is not specifically prohibited, but should be used sparingly to emphasize a point only, or in quoting another.
- No hijacking: Try to keep threads on topic. If you want to veer off on a tangent, please make a new thread for it.
- Keep it legal: Don't post anything that would violate the laws of Nevada or the United States. For example, anything libelous, or promoting anything obviously illegal.
- No thumbtacking. Don't post one or two words just to keep a thread in the top of the list. If that is your motive, at least add something substantive to say about the topic.
- Betting systems: Methods of varying bet size, based on previous wins and losses, not only can't overcome the house edge, they can't even dent it. However, if you're one of the many mathematically ignorant gamblers who think adding up negative numbers can result in a positive one, please keep your comments restricted to the "betting systems" sty.
If you must blow off steam by making personal insults or using excessive profanity, then you may use the free speech zone. The other rules should be respected, even in the free speech zone.
I like the proposed rules. With the no thumbtacking rule, we really should find a way to keep the WOVcon info from getting buried. Otherwise, Croupier (and, to a lesser extent, me) will get our wrists slapped a LOT between now and June...
I still like the idea of some sort of a calendar to facilitate get-togethers when forum members are coming to Las Vegas. That would help with WOVcon, too.Quote: rdw4potus... With the no thumbtacking rule, we really should find a way to keep the WOVcon info from getting buried. ...
Ooops! I might be violating the no-hijacking rule again! That's not what I intended here. I just don't think the idea warrants creating a thread unless there is some hint of interest from others.
Quote: AZDuffmanPlease don't take offense at this (it is a compliment, truly) but it is refreshing to find someone who spent so much time in a government bueracracy job who can think on such a simple level. Thanks!
BTW: Do you guys have to bust many spammers? I have yet to see obvious spam here so either little is being posted or you are doing a very good job filtering it.
No offense taken. Just because I worked in government ten years doesn't mean they broke my spirit. The actuaries where I worked the last eight years were actually a pretty fun group, and not uptight about rules.
Quote: DocI still like the idea of some sort of a calendar to facilitate get-togethers when forum members are coming to Las Vegas. That would help with WOVcon, too.
Well, use your best judgement. Perhaps you can add to the thread with reminders from time to time, or just tell a joke. I find it annoying to see shameless thumbtacks that add nothing to the discussion. The "recent posts" list is a zero net sum game; what one thread gains from a thumbtack, the other threads lose.
Bumping up a thread that's timely, such as the WOVcon isn't a real problem - because it's timely.
I did the same thing for the Wiz Lunch in September. And I did it with my Hit It Again threads. And I've done it with my Poker For Roulette threads, and will continue to do so.
But the key is, each time I do it, I add to the topic. And that's the point of the rule. Don't post just to get a thread to the top of the list.
Regarding Spam:
Some people might consider my Poker For Roulette thread spam, because I link to my www.Poker-For-Roulette.com site about the idea. LOL: For the same reason, some would consider this post spam.
The reality is, unless it's been deleted before I've seen it (quite remarkable if true since I practically live here), there has been almost no spam here. Spam on a message board is like spam email: An unwanted sales pitch. A post, or new thread, usually by a new member, that adds no content does nothing but promote some product. As a moderator on a DJ message board, I periodically have to delete such spam messages. Laundry lists of audio equipment with a link where to purchase it.
Quote: mkl654321I'm going to assume that something external to this board generated that rather untoward burst of hostility. Bad day at the office?
I can appreciate that that's how *your* thinking works, but please don't assign *your* thinking to me.
Feel free to block me again, life is better that way.
Quote: MoscaFor something like the WoV Con, it might be a good idea to make it a banner announcement.
Uh oh, we're getting off topic already. Let's discuss that in the Take Us to WOVCon I thread.
though some parole procedures to get my writing privilages back. Not that I look to find people with anger management problems on here. And start
a insult war with.
But I have came across someone on here that was a critic with my writing skills, and my spelling. And devolped the assumption that my spelling ability ,
and writing skills. Should be a major priority, or concern of his. And periodically he would point out my mistakes, and seemed to me. This person would
go off topic to give a grammer lesson. With a negative emphasis on how I should express myself correctly with my writing.
Well ... he's right. My typing sucks, my spelling is horrible. But I don't need to be reminded again, and again by this person. So the words I knew
how to spell correct, was then released upon this forum in variations of anger, and one upsmanship of put downs. To his idiotic pet peeves about
my writing ability. What do you except with 15 years of construction work . Didn't allow alot of time to practice my typing, and spelling.
Sorry to all if they have read anything unpleasant. That I wrote on purpose, and was just solely intended for that person only. Now if my writing
does offend anyone somehow, and it's not done on purpose by me .....tough $@%&. I well get better..... I wonder if the Wizard would take this
somewhat of a written apology as a get out of jail free pass if i find myself on the list..lol...
I do hope it stays a free speech site. If we lose it what will be the next thing we lose? That I can't write on here just in mt birthday suit...
Badges !! We don't need no stinking badges.....!!!!
EDIT...... I just read the post from the self proclaimed pro gambler . That's now a teacher, and his insult boomarang friend Jerry.
I don't know either of the two. So my judgement of who's the instagator is still on the back burner. But I haven't seen the F bomb written so much since the High School bathroom walls.
And i have nothing to really worry about. So little I might erase the apology..LOL..
No. I was being sincere with my apology to Wizard he's been alot of help, and I greatlly appreciate his time. So it stays....
" Only place were success comes before work, is in the dictionary ".
The bit clipped below [from another thread] is a good example of why this policy is required. The writer crossed the Wizard's line, was warned and decided to dump one more piece of abuse before he left.
"Quote: Wizard
Consider this a warning. The next post like that and you'll be on suspension.
I resign my membership voluntarily. You have no fuckin' idea how to run a message board."
I disagree -- in my view you know exactly how to run this site. Thanks for doing it.
Quote: WizardEffective immediately, the rules I proposed a few days ago are now in effect.
Rules? What rules? We don't need no stinking rules. (A take off on the line from 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre' 1948, with Humphrey Bogart.
