My Resignation as Administrator
Quote: Mission146I guess I could say, "I could have acted unilaterally to Nuke him and I did not," would be a true statement
I’m curious , what are the provisions in the forum rules for allowing a banned member to return and remain active under another name? What has to be the case in order for the admins to have proof that a new account is indeed a banned member , and decide to let that person stay? I was under the false impression that nuke meant nuke , no exceptions. Let’s forget the fact that admins knew he was rumored to be a scammer.
And also , are there any other current active members who are formerly banned member back under a new name?
I feel that , depending on what the person was originally banned for, that the forum should be made aware that a new member is a past nuked member. Especially if the original reason for the nuke was him welching on a bet or some other shady act that directly impacted another member
If everyone was made aware that WON was strictlyAp then forum members could’ve then made their own educated decisions of whether or not to deal with him if ever approached by him.
Quote: Mission146Your statement is not accurate. As with many other people, you are trying to hold me to having today’s knowledge in the context of two years ago.
Quote: Mission146If people want to blame me exclusively for WoN being allowed to post here under that handle, that's fine. It was 100% my fault, if that makes you feel better.
I guess I could say, "I could have acted unilaterally to Nuke him and I did not," would be a true statement.
You and all of the mods are responsible for him being allowed to have a voice and recruiting ground. You're just the guy falling on the sword. Your involvement in the shenanigans is the most suspect. This site is supposed to stand for integrity in a pretty notorious environment for lacking integrity.
I suppose a lot of eyes were opened over these past few days.
A conspiracy minded person could think you allowed him to remain so that an eye could be kept on him. However, you and you alone decided to work with him even after you knew and were informed about his BS. Sorry I have no sympathy nor empathy despite thinking you are otherwise most likely decent.
Quote: Mission146LIn other words, while the majority of people here would (likely) vote to see me remain as an Admin, were I to put it to a vote, I believe that there are enough people where my impartiality and objectiveness can be called into question to warrant resignation.
Each admin including the Wizard, and the probably the owners here have a short list of people who would vote them off the island. You're not special in that regard.
That's meant to be a positive point.
Quote: MrVI wonder who will take his place, and what type of selection process will be involved?
Why don't YOU volunteer, Mr.V.
j/k
Are you volunteering? That would work.Quote: MrVI wonder who will take his place, and what type of selection process will be involved?
Quote: RogerKintNathan for mod '18
Damn you beat me to it
I guess I second
Resigning over something you thought was an innocent lunch gathering that someone else mistook as you vouching for a scammer???
that's his problem.
don't resign over this silly reason!
Quote: 100xOddsomg.. this is so freaking stupid.
Resigning over something you thought was an innocent lunch gathering that someone else mistook as you vouching for a scammer???
that's his problem.
don't resign over this silly reason!
That's what you took from all of this?
Quote: billryanI propose a Blue Ribbon Search committee to narrow the field to a half dozen or so, then feats of strength and cunning to eliminate them one by one.
I would love the job. Then I could ban everyone who disagrees with me in the political threads. In other words, about everyone.
And the first time Babs bans me, I'd ban her back.
Best of luck to you. I think you did a great job on a completely thankless, volunteer position. Most moderators/administrators do not last nearly as long.
I very much enjoy reading your articles and look forward to continuing to do so in the future.
WoN posted for a months and seemed an active and valuable member before I started to hear "off the record" and unsupported accusations he was SAP. I always replied that I needed evidence to take action. To that I was always told said evidence was confidential. I can't nuke someone based on rumors. Innocent until proven guilty is something I believe strongly in.
However, it got to a boiling point after the Monet incident. That is when I decided to crack down on banned members returning as sock puppets. Some private communication took place and in the end WoN resigned.
I already admitted I may have waited too long in the WoN situation, back in one of the Monet threads. However, I did so in the interests of due process and giving WoN the benefit of the doubt.
There you have it. Let the attacks begin.
Quote: WizardLet me address the question of who knew what when.
WoN posted for a months and seemed an active and valuable member before I started to hear "off the record" and unsupported accusations he was SAP. I always replied that I needed evidence to take action. To that I was always told said evidence was confidential. I can't nuke someone based on rumors. Innocent until proven guilty is something I believe strongly in.
However, it got to a boiling point after the Monet incident. That is when I decided to crack down on banned members returning as sock puppets. Some private communication took place and in the end WoN resigned.
I already admitted I may have waited too long in the WoN situation, back in one of the Monet threads. However, I did so in the interests of due process and giving WoN the benefit of the doubt.
There you have it. Let the attacks begin.
As I have already said, many-a-time, that it's your forum, your rules, and your standards of moderation. We don't have to be here. We don't even need to be here. People have the right to complain, and I admire that you actually allow people to gripe in the open without much of a fear or reprisal. You provided a valuable service and a great forum at no cost to us, and in fact, you ran it at a serious loss for awhile, until you hit gold. This service continues, and the admins, I believe do their best to moderate.
I don't have to read dang near every thread and dang near every post anymore.
That's kind of neat.
"I'm blue daba-dee-daba-die!"
(Partial lyrics to, "Blue," by Eiffel 65)
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Like, "Set of cheap Pai-Gow Tiles for sale." No interest in buying them. No need to read the thread. Don't personally care.
(That's no offense to the OP or anyone participating in that thread, I was just using it as an example of a thread I don't personally care about.)
you might learn is, never volunteer for
anything that looks like it might be a
thankless job. Like mod'ing a forum. If
you must volunteer, do it at the Humane
Society. They truly need your help and
it will be the opposite of thankless. Man
and beast will thank you profusely..
Quote: WizardLet me address the question of who knew what when.
WoN posted for a months and seemed an active and valuable member before I started to hear "off the record" and unsupported accusations he was SAP. I always replied that I needed evidence to take action. To that I was always told said evidence was confidential. I can't nuke someone based on rumors. Innocent until proven guilty is something I believe strongly in.
However, it got to a boiling point after the Monet incident. That is when I decided to crack down on banned members returning as sock puppets. Some private communication took place and in the end WoN resigned.
I already admitted I may have waited too long in the WoN situation, back in one of the Monet threads. However, I did so in the interests of due process and giving WoN the benefit of the doubt.
There you have it. Let the attacks begin.
This clear answer is what we all have been looking for. No attacks should follow.
Quote: GWAEhow dare you make a decision like this without consulting with members here. This should be up to a vote. Mods should only be allowed to leave if they are impeached.
Once a Made Man only one way out?
Quote: AZDuffmanOnce a Made Man only one way out?
Nope
Michael Franzese
Quote: AZDuffmanSorry to see you go. Still have to meet for coffee.
Agreed!
Quote: Mission146Agreed!
I'm at the courthouse tomorrow if you are around.
Quote: AZDuffmanI'm at the courthouse tomorrow if you are around.
I'll text you if I'm that way, might have a full plate tomorrow. Definitely next week sometime for sure.
Quote: Mission146I'll text you if I'm that way, might have a full plate tomorrow. Definitely next week sometime for sure.
Around 3 is ideal. Little after.
Quote: AZDuffmanAround 3 is ideal. Little after.
Definitely out, then, I’m sorry. I have the kids tomorrow and throughout the rest of the week. That’s why I suggested next week.
Quote: Mission146Definitely out, then, I’m sorry. I have the kids tomorrow and throughout the rest of the week. That’s why I suggested next week.
Get with me then. I should be in town not from home at least M/T/W.
Quote: AZDuffmanGet with me then. I should be in town not from home at least M/T/W.
Yeesh get a room guys
J/k :)
Quote: WizardLet the attacks begin.
Oh No! Wizard did get beat up! you can't even recognize him!
Quote: WizardI would like to thank him for his many years of loyal service to the forum. In his many actions as an administration, I can't think of a single decision I had a major disagreement with.
We have lost a good man over this witch hunt. I do hope those who attacked him ruthlessly are satisfied and we can move on.
Agree. Thank you and good luck.
Quote: MidwestAPThanks Mission for all your years of service on this board! It's a shame it all had to go down this way. Looking forward to your continuing contributions!
Thank you very much!
Quote: JoemanMission, I appreciate your work as moderator here. I haven't been following that thread, but I often see the mods here caught between the Scylla and Charybdis (always wanted to use that reference!), and I don't envy those of you who voluntarily take on this task. I'll miss you as moderator, but I look forward to your continued contributions to discussions here.
Thank you also! I’m going to go look up those scientific-sounding words now.
Edit: Mythology, it turns out. I’ll skim it later. Mad props for busting out a mythology reference, tough to do.
Let’s have some fun, here.
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things.
And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're not
standing out like flashy sparkles in the water- or stars
in the sky.
But green's the color of Spring.
And green can be cool and friendly-like.
And green can be big like an ocean, or important like a
mountain, or tall like a tree.
When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why, but why wonder why? Wonder,
I am green and it'll do fine, it's beautiful!
And I think it's what I want to be
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https://youtu.be/dJDIsrRezmc?t=4
“I’m blue daba-dee-daba-die.”
Are you going to change the color of the dice of your avatar to blue?Quote: Mission146Beautiful.
“I’m blue daba-dee-daba-die.”
Quote: Mission146I’m blue, look at me!!!
Let’s have some fun, here.
Hey, you are blue now! You crossed over to the normal Members side! Welcome to the normal Members club! :D Okay, so, let's talk about good things that are blue. The ocean looks blue. Walgreen's uniform shirt is blue. The sky is blue. Blue is a beautiful eye color. Chips Ahoy is blue. Oreos is blue. Blue raspberry is blue. Cookie Monster is blue. Blue is the world's most popular color. Blue is a primary color. Blue is good! :D
If you think your resignation was in the best interest of the forum, YOU ARE WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote: NathanHey, you are blue now! You crossed over to the normal Members side! Welcome to the normal Members club! :D Okay, so, let's talk about good things that are blue. The ocean looks blue. Walgreen's uniform shirt is blue. The sky is blue. Blue is a beautiful eye color. Chips Ahoy is blue. Oreos is blue. Blue raspberry is blue. Cookie Monster is blue. Blue is the world's most popular color. Blue is a primary color. Blue is good! :D
How.....what......I.....I can’t even. 🤯
Quote: dglscorriganMission " I do not want to resign as an Administrator, but my goal has always been to act in the best interest of the forum, and I cannot go against that goal now."
If you think your resignation was in the best interest of the forum, YOU ARE WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for your statement, I appreciate it!
