Mission146
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March 26th, 2016 at 7:12:49 PM permalink
Greetings!

I have recently been bestowed a rare honor and privilege and that is to write a page for the WizardofOdds.com site:

http://wizardofodds.com/the-legality-of-online-gambling-us

That page concerns, "The State of the States," with respect to the legality of online gambling. While it is not the first page I have written for the Main Site, it is rare that I get asked to do so. Fortunately, I'll have two-three more Pages that I'll be writing for the Main Site within the next couple of weeks.

Take some time to read it if you would be so kind. If you want to research additional information on the State you live in, some of the links I have provided for most of the States should get you started. Also, I didn't stumble across too many cases in which these laws (in the States where it is actually illegal) have been applied in the form of prosecution. If you know of any in your State, I'd be most interested in hearing about them.

Either way, please read and enjoy. Unlike my WoV Articles (where Comments are best left on the Article page) this thread will be the best one for Comments on the present Article.
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DRich
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March 26th, 2016 at 7:53:57 PM permalink
As a Nevada resident and someone that works in the state licensed gaming field I would be very interested to know if Nevada has denied gaming licenses or "Key Employee" status to individuals that participate in offshore gambling. I quit all my offshore gambling about 10 years ago because I thought it might be an issue for licensing in Nevada.

If anyone knows the answer to this I would be very interested in hearing about it.
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Mission146
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March 26th, 2016 at 7:57:21 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

As a Nevada resident and someone that works in the state licensed gaming field I would be very interested to know if Nevada has denied gaming licenses or "Key Employee" status to individuals that participate in offshore gambling. I quit all my offshore gambling about 10 years ago because I thought it might be an issue for licensing in Nevada.

If anyone knows the answer to this I would be very interested in hearing about it.



Ask and ye shall receive:

http://ggbmagazine.com/issue/vol-13-no-1-january-2014/article/nevada-rejects-poster-for-gaming-license
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Doc
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March 26th, 2016 at 8:07:32 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

... this thread will be the best one for Comments on the present Article.


Nice article. Thanks for the contribution.

Two things you might want to check out/change: Minor formatting error in the Maryland entry and capitalization errors in all of the two-word state names.
Mission146
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March 26th, 2016 at 8:15:26 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

Nice article. Thanks for the contribution.

Two things you might want to check out/change: Minor formatting error in the Maryland entry and capitalization errors in all of the two-word state names.



You're welcome, and thank you for the compliment!

I'll pass those along, thank you. I did notice that about the two-word State names and assure you that I did not send them that way. I actually don't do what you might call the, "Physical," posting of Pages or Articles. Although, on WoV, I theoretically could and have the capability to Edit Articles. I have no Admin privileges whatsoever on WoO, and that's probably for the best!
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DRich
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March 26th, 2016 at 8:28:48 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://ggbmagazine.com/issue/vol-13-no-1-january-2014/article/nevada-rejects-poster-for-gaming-license



Thank you. I do remember that now but my recollection was that he was getting paid by Pinnacle or other sportsbooks for bringing them clients. If he was just betting then that would be exactly what I was looking for. Basically I just want to know if I can play poker and do some bonus whoring without losing my ability to get licensed in Nevada. My stakes would be orders of magnitude less than Poster's.

I probably need to pose that question to a gaming attorney.
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Mission146
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March 26th, 2016 at 8:44:35 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Thank you. I do remember that now but my recollection was that he was getting paid by Pinnacle or other sportsbooks for bringing them clients. If he was just betting then that would be exactly what I was looking for. Basically I just want to know if I can play poker and do some bonus whoring without losing my ability to get licensed in Nevada. My stakes would be orders of magnitude less than Poster's.

I probably need to pose that question to a gaming attorney.



I would before you play, absolutely. If you look at Page 2 of this document containing reasons an applicant could be denied:

http://gaming.unlv.edu/papers/cgr_op11_faiss_gemignani.pdf

I think it could fall under, "Association or Membership in organized crime," because the sites themselves are doing something illegal by knowingly accepting funds from U.S. players pursuant to the UIGEA.

They could also construe it as conduct that would discredit the gambling industry, theoretically.
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Aussie
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March 27th, 2016 at 3:32:56 AM permalink
Interesting article. I bet reasonable volumes on sports using Betfair and would probably want to do so when I visit in August. Obviously no issues with the transfer of money as I don't use a US bank and the account is already funded. Betfair block you from logging in if they detect that you are located in the US but this is easily circumvented using a VPN. The only issue left is whether any laws would be enforced. Seems ambiguous from your article?

I would be most likely to want to bet while in New York (US Open tennis) but possibly while in California, Nevada, Illinois & Florida as well. Will be using a cell phone with a US sim if that makes any difference.

Anyone want to offer an opinion on likelihood of detection and/or prosecution?
odiousgambit
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March 27th, 2016 at 4:45:39 AM permalink
Wow, congratulations, an article that is the polar opposite of one written by a lawyer!

You have to give credit to WoO for not wanting that.

In particular actually giving advice on the matter for each state ... completely eye-popping!
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
Mission146
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March 27th, 2016 at 4:51:09 AM permalink
Quote: Aussie



Anyone want to offer an opinion on likelihood of detection and/or prosecution?



Very close to zero on both.
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