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October 24th, 2012 at 7:38:24 AM permalink
The new forum is open for business! Those of you who had the accidental sneak peak yesterday know the name is Diversity Tomorrow. The name is an inside joke from the show The Office, in particular the Diversity Day episode (season 1, episode 2). By the way, congratulations to Miplet who guessed the name when all I said was the initials were DT.

At this point, I'm going to refrain from announcing the site for a week or so to let WoV claims their existing handles, if you wish. Let the birth certification show that DT launched on October 24, 2012. Anybody who signs up today will have the distinction of being a "founding member."
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October 24th, 2012 at 7:45:27 AM permalink
Sweet! Just registered. I'm not sure of the extent to which I'll be active on both sites, but the lure of being a founding member was too much to pass up:-)

One question: I had to click a box certifying that I'm at least 21. Is there an age limit on the DT site? I think we removed it here about a year ago.
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October 24th, 2012 at 7:49:36 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

One question: I had to click a box certifying that I'm at least 21. Is there an age limit on the DT site? I think we removed it here about a year ago.


Good point. The age restriction has now been removed from DT's signup form.
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October 24th, 2012 at 7:56:03 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Let the birth certification show that DT launched on October 24, 2012. Anybody who signs up today will have the distinction of being a "founding member."



Looks like Nareed barely beat me to first post.

Does "Founding Member" get us something special, say an all-expense paid one-week "Emperor's Package" at Caesar's Palace?
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:08:17 AM permalink
Does this mean topics like religion and politics will not be permitted here? Dare I dream?!
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:15:03 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

At this point, I'm going to refrain from announcing the site for a week or so to let WoV claims their existing handles, if you wish. Let the birth certification show that DT launched on October 24, 2012. Anybody who signs up today will have the distinction of being a "founding member."

Damn!

I was given special access, and had signed up a few days ago.

But because of the screw-up yesterday, I had to sign-up again today. I was still first, but now my date is the same as everyone else's. Sigh.


And congrats to Miplet. I sprinkled a few clues about the name, but Miplet guessed it.
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:18:09 AM permalink
Quote: sunrise089

Does this mean topics like religion and politics will not be permitted here? Dare I dream?!


And football!
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:19:41 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Looks like Nareed barely beat me to first post.

Does "Founding Member" get us something special, say an all-expense paid one-week "Emperor's Packace" at Caesar's Palace?



[brooklyn accent] I gotcher "Emperor's Package" right heeyah. [/brooklyn accent]
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:24:27 AM permalink
Here's a thought: why don't you go all discuss the new forum at the new forum?
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:32:03 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Here's a thought: why don't you go all discuss the new forum at the new forum?



Because then they'd hear us....
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:37:21 AM permalink
I vow to only discuss gambling topics on WOV,
although iwill continue to provide links for graphics and video
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:38:15 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

... By the way, congratulations to Miplet who guessed the name when all I said was the initials were DT....


This post from February 16th, 2010 gave it away.
Link
Quote: Wizard

That is my second favorite episode, second only to "Diversity Day." I liked that one so much, I bought the domain diversitytomorrow.com, but have not done anything with it yet. My third favorite is Casino Night, perhaps not surprisingly.

A good math problem is what is the probability nobody gets his/her own name. As the number of people gets larger, the probability approaches 1/e.


OK, I didn't really remember that post, but did a reverse ip lookup.
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:39:52 AM permalink
That's my favorite episode from The Office.

It's not the exact quote, but Pam says something like "Based on stereotypes I totally don't agree with, your people can't drive" Dwight "I'm a woman?!?!?"
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October 24th, 2012 at 8:56:43 AM permalink
Quote: Mosca

[brooklyn accent] I gotcher "Emperor's Package" right heeyah. [/brooklyn accent]



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October 24th, 2012 at 9:09:23 AM permalink
As a request over there (reached my posting limit) can you lighten the grey? I get that it is supposed to be a theme color, but when you are making a post or otherwise reading the black charachters on the grey it is not very eyeball friendly.

Just some feedback.
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October 24th, 2012 at 9:14:38 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

As a request over there (reached my posting limit) can you lighten the grey? I get that it is supposed to be a theme color, but when you are making a post or otherwise reading the black charachters on the grey it is not very eyeball friendly.

Just some feedback.


Oops, I forgot to lift the posting limits. You should be able to post there now without limit.

Can you elaborate on which part is too dark for you to read? My monitor must emit more light than yours, because none of it is too dark to read.
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October 24th, 2012 at 9:26:20 AM permalink
I registered and posted once to prevent my nickname from being misused. Past that, I'm still reminded of New Coke and Cold Fusion. In my experience, boards without any sort of thematic focus don't do well at all.
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October 24th, 2012 at 9:50:07 AM permalink
Somewhat confusing: accessing a two-page post invokes the last page as opposed to the way this site works where the first (or most recent) page is accessed
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October 24th, 2012 at 10:24:31 AM permalink
Why is the new site so hard to read? Everything is dark
and depressing, like the Bizzaro World version of this
site.
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October 24th, 2012 at 10:35:33 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

OK, I didn't really remember that post, but did a reverse ip lookup.


Good work. Sorta disappointed I didn't think about that.
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October 24th, 2012 at 10:47:34 AM permalink
Quote: Nareed

I registered and posted once to prevent my nickname from being misused. Past that, I'm still reminded of New Coke and Cold Fusion. In my experience, boards without any sort of thematic focus don't do well at all.



So on one hand I agree, and the one board I was on with only a "talk about whatever" theme did indeed sort of fade away.

But IMHO the disease is much better than the cure, as the cure is keeping more horrible and distracting off-topic nonsense on this gambling board.

Basically, my forum quality hierarchy is Focused Topical Forum -> Rambling Semi-Topic Forum -> Pure Off-Topic Forum. I'm happy to have an instance of the third to regain an instance of the first.
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October 24th, 2012 at 10:56:57 AM permalink
I registered about 10 minutes ago and haven't gotten the activation email yet. Did it take this long for anyone else?
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October 24th, 2012 at 11:02:54 AM permalink
No, took just a minute or so. NFN, but do you have an active SPAM filter...?
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October 24th, 2012 at 11:07:07 AM permalink
Quote: chickenman

No, took just a minute or so. NFN, but do you have an active SPAM filter...?


I use gmail's default spam filtering, and it's not in there.
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October 24th, 2012 at 11:36:50 AM permalink
All THREE* of the times I registered, I got the email almost instantly.

Are you sure you entered your address correctly?



* The first time was days ago, by special invitation. The second time was after yesterday's melt-down. The thrid was today. I guess JB did a "clean slate" before the Wiz announced that it was open.
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October 24th, 2012 at 11:40:04 AM permalink
Quote: sunrise089

But IMHO the disease is much better than the cure, as the cure is keeping more horrible and distracting off-topic nonsense on this gambling board.



I also failed to appreciate the slur on a forum name.
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October 24th, 2012 at 11:46:12 AM permalink
I also signed up this morning and didn't get the confirmation email.
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October 24th, 2012 at 11:57:04 AM permalink
I also didn't get an activation email ... yet (two hours and counting...). Unfortunately, you cannot go back and sign up again since your username is sorta 'registered'.
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October 24th, 2012 at 12:06:15 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

The new forum is open for business! Those of you who had the accidental sneak peak yesterday know the name is Diversity Tomorrow. The name is an inside joke from the show The Office, in particular the Diversity Day episode (season 1, episode 2). By the way, congratulations to Miplet who guessed the name when all I said was the initials were DT.

At this point, I'm going to refrain from announcing the site for a week or so to let WoV claims their existing handles, if you wish. Let the birth certification show that DT launched on October 24, 2012. Anybody who signs up today will have the distinction of being a "founding member."



Registered.
fill me in on the inside joke pls.

so no more Off Topic or Religion forums here?
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October 24th, 2012 at 12:08:27 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I also didn't get an activation email ... yet (two hours and counting...). Unfortunately, you cannot go back and sign up again since your username is sorta 'registered'.


Sounds like something might be gumming up the works as of late this morning. I'm 99% sure I entered my email correctly as I hit the back button a few times on the activation page and confirmed it. JB, any thoughts?
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October 24th, 2012 at 12:13:45 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Sounds like something might be gumming up the works as of late this morning. I'm 99% sure I entered my email correctly as I hit the back button a few times on the activation page and confirmed it. JB, any thoughts?



I PM'd JB, and he fixed me up. He suspects my email provider may be completely blocking mail from the activation code provider, so that it doesn't even reach the spam box.
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October 24th, 2012 at 12:41:29 PM permalink
There are 3 sections under "Controversial Topics": Politics, Religion, and Fruit Loops. Shouldn't there be a fourth section: SEX? Not all Fruit Loop discussions involve sex and not all sex discussion involve Fruit Loops... seems as though SEX is a big enough (and controversial enough) topic to warrant its own section. And people have been having sex since at least the 1960s, so even an old timer can join in...
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October 24th, 2012 at 1:24:09 PM permalink
Not bad.

That is, if you like flame wars, thinly veiled slurs, and a color scheme that should come with a warning that prolonged use will lead to clinical depression.

Pass.
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October 24th, 2012 at 1:26:12 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Not bad.

That is, if you like flame wars, thinly veiled slurs, and a color scheme that should come with a warning that prolonged use will lead to clinical depression.



I have to agree, what the heck is going on there?
Its like the wild west. And the wallpaper is from
Manson's jail cell, whats up with that.
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October 24th, 2012 at 1:44:06 PM permalink
it's hard to tell between black and blue on the recent threads section. I really have to look to see whether something is new or not.
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October 24th, 2012 at 1:57:28 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

it's hard to tell between black and blue on the recent threads section. I really have to look to see whether something is new or not.



Everything looks as though it was posted in 1900 anyway, but without the excuse of not having a better medium.

I was going to complain about the very glaring exclussion of two kinds of people, but wince the baord is named in the form of a slur, and is attracting more, perhaps that's a relief.
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October 24th, 2012 at 2:06:02 PM permalink
I'm over there now, it remains to be seen whether or not I will be Green.

I hereby swear that I will only start gambling-related threads over here, though I will continue to post in any thread (started by someone else) that I so desire.

Just for the sake of irony, do you guys think I should start a Roulette System thread over there? j/k
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October 24th, 2012 at 2:12:23 PM permalink
I just noticed something. On the DT page, there is no
connection whatever to the WoO site or the WoV site.
Its completely independent, its just like a thousand
other discussion sites on the web.

I still don't get its point. We go to the drab site with
no connection to this site to discuss religion, politics
and Gay issues. Everything else is done here?
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October 24th, 2012 at 3:02:11 PM permalink
Seriously speaking while I like to try new things, I don't deal well with changes that are too disruptive or too far outside of what I'm used to.

So, the color shceme in the new board is depressing. Maybe it won't cause clinical depresion, but it feels like I'm stuck in a perpetual overcast day, cold and dreary. The name of the board, and the names or headings of the various sub-baords seem like jokes. Joking's fine, but not as the focus of a board unless it's a commedy or satire site. And I really do not appreciate pointedly excluding bisexuals and transgender from a certain area, not to mention using a slur to name it (not even as a joke).

And very seriously, the GLBT bashing's already started. "Neverland Ranch" is a name associated with a celebrity pedophile, for crying out loud.

So in all seriousness: pass.
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October 24th, 2012 at 3:20:45 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Not bad.

That is, if you like flame wars, thinly veiled slurs, and a color scheme that should come with a warning that prolonged use will lead to clinical depression.

Pass.



Quote: EvenBob

I still don't get its point. We go to the drab site with
no connection to this site to discuss religion, politics
and Gay issues. Everything else is done here?



Oh I pass too Nareed, I'm just thrilled (if indeed threads on these topics here will be closed from now on) all the worst parts of the forum for me have been moved elsewhere.

Sadly, the HB Challenge, which was a bet, would have stayed here I suspect.
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October 24th, 2012 at 3:23:58 PM permalink
Quote: sunrise089

Oh I pass too Nareed, I'm just thrilled (if indeed threads on these topics here will be closed from now on) all the worst parts of the forum for me have been moved elsewhere.



Are you planning on phisicaly restraining me? I warn you, that'll run you close to $150 an hour ;)
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October 24th, 2012 at 4:23:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I just noticed something. On the DT page, there is no
connection whatever to the WoO site or the WoV site.
Its completely independent, its just like a thousand
other discussion sites on the web.

I still don't get its point. We go to the drab site with
no connection to this site to discuss religion, politics
and Gay issues. Everything else is done here?


Untrue. Both the about page and the rules page make note of the fact that it is a spin-off of Wizard of Vegas.
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October 24th, 2012 at 4:28:20 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Seriously speaking while I like to try new things, I don't deal well with changes that are too disruptive or too far outside of what I'm used to.

So, the color shceme in the new board is depressing. Maybe it won't cause clinical depresion, but it feels like I'm stuck in a perpetual overcast day, cold and dreary. The name of the board, and the names or headings of the various sub-baords seem like jokes. Joking's fine, but not as the focus of a board unless it's a commedy or satire site. And I really do not appreciate pointedly excluding bisexuals and transgender from a certain area, not to mention using a slur to name it (not even as a joke).

And very seriously, the GLBT bashing's already started. "Neverland Ranch" is a name associated with a celebrity pedophile, for crying out loud.

So in all seriousness: pass.



You seem to be really up on everything happening over there for someone who is not interested.
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October 24th, 2012 at 5:14:28 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Untrue. Both the about page and the rules page make note of the fact that it is a spin-off of Wizard of Vegas.



I'm not talking about looking for a connection
and finding one. When you go there, on the
home page there is no connection anywhere.
Why do I think this isn't an accident.
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October 24th, 2012 at 5:14:53 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

You seem to be really up on everything happening over there for someone who is not interested.



This is really annoying. If I offer a negative opinion on something I don't know well, I get criticized for knocking it without trying it. If I do the same about something I do know, then I get criticized for knowing too much about something I'm not itnerested about.
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October 24th, 2012 at 7:00:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: AcesAndEights

Untrue. Both the about page and the rules page make note of the fact that it is a spin-off of Wizard of Vegas.



I'm not talking about looking for a connection
and finding one. When you go there, on the
home page there is no connection anywhere.
Why do I think this isn't an accident.



What are you talking about?

Every page over there has the standard "My other sites" at the bottom.


On that note, WoV and WoO should probably be updated to include DT.
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October 24th, 2012 at 7:07:43 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear



Every page over there has the standard "My other sites" at the bottom.
.



You're right, its so big, so obvious, so in your
face I missed it. Its gray like the rest of the site,
like a rainy day.
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October 25th, 2012 at 11:56:32 AM permalink
So, what happens with the non-core discussions here? will they be moved? or closed? What's the mechanism for "cleaning up" WoV?
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October 25th, 2012 at 12:00:56 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

So, what happens with the non-core discussions here? will they be moved? or closed? What's the mechanism for "cleaning up" WoV?



Wait and see what happens first. The other site is
laying a goose egg so far, not one new member
today. It seems the traffic on both sites is pretty
low since yesterday. I don't like the tone on the
other site, too much name calling.
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October 25th, 2012 at 12:11:05 PM permalink
I am against changing WoV at all. I joined the site initially out of an interest in the math aspect of gambling, but it has evolved into so much more for me. The people and their personalities on the forum now interest me as much as any subject matter. The credibility that, say, a pacomartin, has built up makes me interested in his posts on non gambling matters. Sure, there are many threads on totally non gambling matters (recipes, fashion, Obamacare, etc...), but it is EASY not to click on them if you don't want to. Interestingly, the thread I started, The HotBlonde Challenge, which has had numerous people complain about ON THE THREAD ITSELF, meaning they WERE READING THE THREAD, is perhaps the quintessential gambling thread.... REAL money was exchanged, odds were discussed, secondary bets made, rules were questioned, and ultimately a winner was crowned, and bikini pics shown... I want all thoughts by our esteemed forum to stay here, and I can weed out the threads that I'm not interested in.
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