mcallister3200
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LuckyPhow
August 29th, 2017 at 9:23:51 PM permalink
I've mentioned this a few times, finally someone calling them out on it. The Nevada Gaming Commission is currently complicit in allowing casinos to steal from patrons, it makes the whole industry look bad. At least two strip properties from a large corporation that went through bankruptcy a couple years ago are currently taking advantage of the gaming commissions refusal to enforce regulations.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/blackjack21/home/deploy/bj21/releases/20170829090436/public/ckeditor_assets/attachments/13/chief_carl_bennison_ltr_8_25_17.pdf
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August 29th, 2017 at 9:49:28 PM permalink
Definitely agree with him, but I don't think invoking Nazism was necessary to make his point.
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August 29th, 2017 at 10:34:19 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

Definitely agree with him, but I don't think invoking Nazism was necessary to make his point.



The nazi quote was a reference to a previous case precedent that it was not illegal to be without identification and no one in the usa is required to show identity papers - which was a big mandate of nazi germany

So i think it was appropriate
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August 29th, 2017 at 10:48:54 PM permalink
Next time BN is on GWAE, I'd like to know if he was writing a gambling reform ballot initiative, what he would ask for, what needs updated, and what needs changed, etc.
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August 29th, 2017 at 11:20:48 PM permalink
Very well written letter, but that's all it is: a letter.

No idea how they will respond.

Perhaps an AP client of his to whom this has happened could retain him to take the matter a step further and file a lawsuit naming both the casino where it happened and the gaming commission requesting that the court issue a declaratory judgment on the issue.

That should be definitive.
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DRich
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August 30th, 2017 at 6:50:32 AM permalink
I look forward to seeing how this plays out. A company that I do some work for requires ID be presented when the patron gets to $!0k accumulated cash outs. We hold the payout until the ID is presented or until Nevada Gaming tells us to pay. If ID is not presented the patron is no longer allowed to play at the property.
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August 30th, 2017 at 7:08:07 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I look forward to seeing how this plays out. A company that I do some work for requires ID be presented when the patron gets to $!0k accumulated cash outs. We hold the payout until the ID is presented or until Nevada Gaming tells us to pay. If ID is not presented the patron is no longer allowed to play at the property.


You mention what I assume is meant to be $10,000 (my shift key sticks on occasion, too). Doesn't that bring RICO / Money Laundering laws into play, which is why ID could be required?
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August 30th, 2017 at 7:27:27 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I look forward to seeing how this plays out. A company that I do some work for requires ID be presented when the patron gets to $!0k accumulated cash outs. We hold the payout until the ID is presented or until Nevada Gaming tells us to pay. If ID is not presented the patron is no longer allowed to play at the property.


When you say accumulated cashouts ,over what time period do you mean.Also how do they know that you have reached the 10k threshold if you cash out small amounts,unless they are asking for a card or id on every cash out.
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August 30th, 2017 at 7:45:51 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

You mention what I assume is meant to be $10,000 (my shift key sticks on occasion, too). Doesn't that bring RICO / Money Laundering laws into play, which is why ID could be required?

No, I thought $10k (buy in or cash outs) within 24 hours triggered a CTR in which they will ASK you for your ID. You still don't 'have' to provide it, but then you'll more than likely get a SAR for your troubles... as well as them telling you not to play there anymore; though again to the best of my knowledge they still must pay you. Well, they're "supposed" to still pay you... I think this is part of what BN is referring to.
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DRich
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August 30th, 2017 at 7:51:28 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

When you say accumulated cashouts ,over what time period do you mean.Also how do they know that you have reached the 10k threshold if you cash out small amounts,unless they are asking for a card or id on every cash out.



24 Hours. If they don't ask for ID during the smaller transactions they are supposed to track you by description and require ID when it exceeds $10k. It is nearly an impossible task at a big casino with a patron doing very small cash outs. The ticket redemption kiosks have also added another level of complexity to it.
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