MyVegas reward value decreasing
I suppose the house always wins, and there's no such thing as a free lunch... After all.
I agree that things have gotten worse but it is still free so it is a win win for the players. MyVegas is obviously in it to make money so if they are making less money then they have to change things. If the way the rewards are right now were like that from the beginning I think people would still be playing like crazy with no complaints.
Quote: surrender88sIt seems like MyVegas is more popular than MGM may have expected, and instead of changing rules, they just conveniently "sell out" of the most valuable rewards like comped rooms, and lower the value of free play by making it ~2000 points for $1 of free play, whereas the rough value I see is about ~1000 points per dollar on other comps.
First of all, what do you mean by "changing rules"?
Second, popular items seeming as if they are always sold out is nothing new on MyVegas - I for one have been involved with the "Ten O'Clock Shuffle" trying to get a ticket to LOVE. (The items in limited supply reset every day at sometime around 10 AM Eastern. You have to keep refreshing to see just when they are reset, and then immediately make your purchase and hope they weren't all sold out for today before you got yours.)
And at least you get something without having to pay cash for it. CET's "online casino" gives you nothing for playing (then again, if it did, then everybody would either be pouncing on VP or laundering chips for benefits through roulette, which is probably why roulette isn't on MLife yet) - only for buying more chips.
Question. would anyone pay for a MyVegas account fully leveled up, and pumped up with chips and comps ? Obviously one you can set up in you're name.
Quote: surrender88sIt seems like MyVegas is more popular than MGM may have expected, and instead of changing rules, they just conveniently "sell out" of the most valuable rewards like comped rooms, and lower the value of free play by making it ~2000 points for $1 of free play, whereas the rough value I see is about ~1000 points per dollar on other comps.
I suppose the house always wins, and there's no such thing as a free lunch... After all.
On all these promotions you have to use em before you lose em. I'm old enough to remember the dollar bacon and eggs breakfast at El Cortez.
Quote: ThatDonGuy
Second, popular items seeming as if they are always sold out is nothing new on MyVegas - I for one have been involved with the "Ten O'Clock Shuffle" trying to get a ticket to LOVE. (The items in limited supply reset every day at sometime around 10 AM Eastern. You have to keep refreshing to see just when they are reset, and then immediately make your purchase and hope they weren't all sold out for today before you got yours.)
Well it's 'bout 12:45 EST, and I see the BEATLES LOVE tickets still available at both the 40K and 78K premium seat levels. Pair that up with the Mirage Buffet and you've got yourself a nice night out.
I was in Vegas recently and logged on to myVegas. My initial reaction was "Holy Crap, they've gutted the Rewards". But then I realized that I was seeing the Rewards that are available to Locals. When I got out of the Vegas area, the rewards were back to normal.
ps: A couple of years into the myVegas thing, I am surprised the Rewards are still as good as they are. I bought enough chips once upon a time to get a 4th redemption, and that is still valid for me now. Ditto for Mrs. Q.
Quote: JohnnyQWell it's 'bout 12:45 EST, and I see the BEATLES LOVE tickets still available at both the 40K and 78K premium seat levels. Pair that up with the Mirage Buffet and you've got yourself a nice night out.
I was in Vegas recently and logged on to myVegas. My initial reaction was "Holy Crap, they've gutted the Rewards". But then I realized that I was seeing the Rewards that are available to Locals. When I got out of the Vegas area, the rewards were back to normal.
For anyone in vegas, you can get around this by using a VPN.
Not always.... I'm not 100% sure how it works but somehow you can get locked in as a local. My GF has an account that no matter where she's at it only gets local offers. If you are a local I suggest never logging on without a VPN.Quote: sc15For anyone in vegas, you can get around this by using a VPN.
Quote: JohnnyQWell it's 'bout 12:45 EST, and I see the BEATLES LOVE tickets still available at both the 40K and 78K premium seat levels. Pair that up with the Mirage Buffet and you've got yourself a nice night out.
They increased the number of LOVE tickets available a few months ago - back when I tried (around March 2014, I think, since I was going in June and you have to use them within 90 days), there were only 10 per day, and were usually snapped right up.
Another thing they have done is, they have increased the number of LPs needed to get certain items, but also added a level where the number needed was reduced, but you needed to stay at an MLife hotel (I think that for some, it could be any hotel, but for others, it had to be the one offering the reward).
Quote: AxelWolfNot always.... I'm not 100% sure how it works but somehow you can get locked in as a local. My GF has an account that no matter where she's at it only gets local offers. If you are a local I suggest never logging on without a VPN.
That's what I mean.. You have to play through a VPN.
Quote: ThatDonGuyThey increased the number of LOVE tickets available a few months ago - back when I tried (around March 2014, I think, since I was going in June and you have to use them within 90 days), there were only 10 per day, and were usually snapped right up.
Another thing they have done is, they have increased the number of LPs needed to get certain items, but also added a level where the number needed was reduced, but you needed to stay at an MLife hotel (I think that for some, it could be any hotel, but for others, it had to be the one offering the reward).
Yep. :( I started playing MyVegas back in Dec 2012. I wish I had heard about it sooner. The rewards in the beginning were dope. I always wanted the 100,000 2 night Mirage Tower Suite but once they pulled it as a reward, it never came back. They couldn't know how to valuate Loyalty Points back then and didn't realize how easily/quickly people would be gaining large sums. That was also back before the 3 rewards in 30 days limit on time frame for use. Here are the notes I took down from my trip in Jan 2013:
$20 Midway Credits at Circus Circus - 10k LP
$50 Monte Carlo F&B Credit - 25k LP (this still exists in theory as 50k LP but is always sold out)
Aria Pastry at Jean Philippe (I believe was up to $10 value) - 7.5k LP
Mirage Room (specific dates in winter) - 15k LP
Bellagio Lunch Buffet for 2 - 21.5k LP
Shark Reef Passes for 2 - 18k LP
Quote: JohnnyQI hope the myVegas folks are trying to work through the tight supply of redemption rewards. Clearly, the rewards themselves are being diluted fairly regularly. But I think it is more frustrating that anything decent seems to be constantly "sold-out".
From what I recall, there are different supply pools for different rewards. Some might have a daily limit and once sold out, you have to wait until the following morning around 7am when the rewards get replenished. Some have a finite number based upon the negotiation period with the specific hotel that the reward is from. Those will remain "sold out" until whatever unknown future date that the hotel has deemed they will allow new supply to be replenished.
Anyway, the trick has always been to log on a little before 7 am (PST) and continuously refresh the rewards page and/or refresh the entire game URL and see if the reward shows as available.
Quote: ChereyaAnyway, the trick has always been to log on a little before 7 am (EST) and continuously refresh the rewards page and/or refresh the entire game URL and see if the reward shows as available.
Actually, that was 7 AM Pacific time, not Eastern, and a few months ago, they changed the policy; I think they refresh different rewards at different times of day, but I have definitely seen some refreshed after noon Pacific.
Also, recently they have been dropping some of the better rewards - for example, I bought a premium ticket to Zarkana about a week ago, and a few days later, the premium ticket purchase option was gone; only "standard" tickets are now available. I have heard that this applies to all shows, including LOVE, but I have not confirmed this. It's possible that they are doing this just over certain "high volume" time periods - for example, EDC is this weekend, so perhaps they don't want rewards used at a time when shows and restaurants are likely to be booked solid (some of the hotel prices rival New Year's Eve numbers).
Quote: ThatDonGuyActually, that was 7 AM Pacific time, not Eastern, and a few months ago, they changed the policy; I think they refresh different rewards at different times of day, but I have definitely seen some refreshed after noon Pacific.
Also, recently they have been dropping some of the better rewards - for example, I bought a premium ticket to Zarkana about a week ago, and a few days later, the premium ticket purchase option was gone; only "standard" tickets are now available. I have heard that this applies to all shows, including LOVE, but I have not confirmed this. It's possible that they are doing this just over certain "high volume" time periods - for example, EDC is this weekend, so perhaps they don't want rewards used at a time when shows and restaurants are likely to be booked solid (some of the hotel prices rival New Year's Eve numbers).
Cirque shows are still up there. I would like them to possibly partner with some tours of Hoover Dam, Red Rock Canyon, perhaps some golf getaways to like Bali Hai or Rio Secco or something like that as well.
Quote: Gabes22Cirque shows are still up there.
Yes, but I think only for "standard" (as in, "nosebleed sections") seats, although there might be some 2-for-1s still available with premium seats.
Quote: ThatDonGuyActually, that was 7 AM Pacific time, not Eastern, and a few months ago, they changed the policy; I think they refresh different rewards at different times of day, but I have definitely seen some refreshed after noon Pacific.
Thank you for the correction, you're right. Brain fart. ;) I'll fix that in my earlier posting.
Quote: slytherI have 800k gold to spend for my upcoming trip, but did manage to snag one of the Monte Carlo $50 Food Credit awards.
Well done - that seems to be one of the Holy Grails of myVegas.
For those of you not familiar with myVegas's rewards, there's a $50 food credit at Monte Carlo that's just about the only food reward that (a) is not tied to a particular restaurant, and (b) does not require a minimum purchase of twice the discount value (for example, there might be a $75 discount at Prime (at Bellagio) available, but it would require a $150 order).
Quote: slytherI was planning on booking 2 Zarkana premium tix, but yes all the premium ticket options are gone...bummer. I have 800k gold to spend for my upcoming trip, but did manage to snag one of the Monte Carlo $50 Food Credit awards.
Nice job on the $50 Monte Carlo F&B Credit! That is one of my favorites to get. I've gotten it twice and used it both times at Brand. :)
Quote: slytherI was planning on booking 2 Zarkana premium tix, but yes all the premium ticket options are gone...bummer. I have 800k gold to spend for my upcoming trip, but did manage to snag one of the Monte Carlo $50 Food Credit awards.
Wow 800k
Whats your strategy champ?
What slots do you play and at what amount.
What level are you?
Any Blackjack?
Mobile devices?
How many friends do you share chips with?
Quote: ThatDonGuyWell done - that seems to be one of the Holy Grails of myVegas.
For those of you not familiar with myVegas's rewards, there's a $50 food credit at Monte Carlo that's just about the only food reward that (a) is not tied to a particular restaurant, and (b) does not require a minimum purchase of twice the discount value (for example, there might be a $75 discount at Prime (at Bellagio) available, but it would require a $150 order).
I agree I got the mc $50 credit only once like 2 years ago right when 7am PST rolled around. Ever since then its always been sold out.
However I can't complain, they should raise the cost 5x and allow more inventory. The buffets aren't half bad for the money. I like mirage the best, bellagio when I feel like splurging, and luxor if I can't get mirage. Just avoid circus circus if you value your health and sanity. Although this is weird but I was told cc's steakhouse is very good. I would like to check it out someday but I never play there and don't have a players card there.
Quote: terapinedWow 800k
Whats your strategy champ?
What slots do you play and at what amount.
What level are you?
Any Blackjack?
Mobile devices?
How many friends do you share chips with?
I have 880K in LPs. I don't play slots at all except on the mobile device. On the computer, I play strictly blackjack, play 3 hands at 10K per hand, and I don't have friends that I share with. Level 344 on CPU, 150 on mobile device
Quote: Gabes22I have 880K in LPs. I don't play slots at all except on the mobile device. On the computer, I play strictly blackjack, play 3 hands at 10K per hand, and I don't have friends that I share with. Level 344 on CPU, 150 on mobile device
I'm at level 809 but have squat for GOLD right now, because I used them up while the prize redemptions were still pretty decent. For example, I've had premium seats at several Cirque shows, all thanks to myVegas. And I was able to get a few redemptions for my upcoming trip (3rd one this year), and ditto for Mrs. Q.
But if the current situation with lack of prize choices and nearly everything seemingly always sold out is any indication of the future, then myVegas is heading down the tubes pretty quickly and is NOT going to be worth the time involved. I hope that doesn't happen. But I don't think I would recommend myVegas to anyone at this point in time.
FWIW, at my level, my strategy is to play 15K per spin on the Excalibur 2 slots on the computer and spend as little time as possible on it. BUT I do try to collect the daily spin every day. With multipliers for having numerous friends also playing, a 1000 gold spin multiplies up to 8000 gold. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen from time to time. Early on, I bough enough Red chips to get a 4th redemption with-in the 30 day window, and when prizes were better and easier to get, I think it was definitely worth it for me.
Quote: terapinedWow 800k
Whats your strategy champ?
What slots do you play and at what amount.
I've earned about 600K in gold myself, but most of that has been spent on rewards.
My "strategy" is, (a) start playing when the app first appeared, and (b) play every day, even if "play" means just spinning the wheel and collecting from my hotels. The first few months are a grind, since you have to build your hotels one at a time by getting bonus symbols on slots and blackjack.
I also usually stick to blackjack, even though it "only" gives one XP for every two reds you bet, up to 50K per deal (although you do earn extra by splitting and doubling, even if you have already earned the 50K limit for that deal). I don't play slots except when it's a "double gold on level-ups" or "double XP" day, neither of which I have seen in months. (When I do play slots, usually it's either Frontier Fortune or New York New York.)
Quote: ThatDonGuyI've earned about 600K in gold myself, but most of that has been spent on rewards.
My "strategy" is, (a) start playing when the app first appeared, and (b) play every day, even if "play" means just spinning the wheel and collecting from my hotels. The first few months are a grind, since you have to build your hotels one at a time by getting bonus symbols on slots and blackjack.
I also usually stick to blackjack, even though it "only" gives one XP for every two reds you bet, up to 50K per deal (although you do earn extra by splitting and doubling, even if you have already earned the 50K limit for that deal). I don't play slots except when it's a "double gold on level-ups" or "double XP" day, neither of which I have seen in months. (When I do play slots, usually it's either Frontier Fortune or New York New York.)
That's interesting.
I actually stay away from BJ.
I am interested in earning LP points but have absolutely no interest in the games.
That's why I don't play BJ. I have to be on the site mentally making decisions.
In reality, I am on the site playing slots but not watching. Its playing in the background
I collect my daily chips, set up slot game Masked Ball Nights, 500 spins no side games.
Over 50 myvegas friends so get a 500% bonus on the daily spin.
I do other stuff, watch TV, read, do laundry, surf internet, walk, ride my bike, ect.
Come back in an hour or 2 to check on the game, chip stack and LP's.
Once out of chips, repeat next day.
Same thing mobile, sign in, get chips, play slots in background while doing other stuff in real life.
I am rarely on the site mentally.
Quote: terapinedWow 800k
Whats your strategy champ?
What slots do you play and at what amount.
What level are you?
Any Blackjack?
Mobile devices?
How many friends do you share chips with?
I currently have close to 700k LP and have redeemed probably in the neighborhood of 400k or so points. I've gotten some nice rewards that I'm very thankful for - premium tickets to O, premium tickets to Zarkana. Buffets at Aria and Bellagio, plus the aforementioned Mirage rooms for only 15k each night. I leave mine in the background as well but I'm on my computer a lot. I like Bet Rock. I have purchased chips a long time ago (back when the LP was worth more and you got 40k LP for spending $200) so still maintain 4 rewards per 30 days though the past two trips, have not used 4 because of a lack of good rewards that are useful to me.
I've noticed over the past year, they keep offering more and more red chips for purchase of the same dollar amount - I'm being advertised close to 9 million red chips for $200. I know the amount of play time you put in affects how they advertise to you. I play my brother's account for him too and his chip purchase offer is 7 million for $200.
I don't feel like buying chips changes any of the programming win hits to your individual account. My brother is sitting at 22 million red chips and he hasn't bought any. Meanwhile, I am scraping by at 4,000 today, haha! I get a little too ambitious/impatient at times. I have been up in the millions range for my red chips before.
With the combination of chip purchase desperation and a dwindling catalog of rewards, I am wondering how things are going between Playstudios and MGM.
I generally do a casino chip collection 3 times a day, when I wake up, when I get home from work, before I go to bed.
Each casino seems to give a random amount. Say I only collected once a day instead of thrice, would each casino give me more or its just totally random and to collect as often as feasible?
The progressive slots. I am afraid to play them because I don't bet enough to try for the progressive. Is the payback less on this machine at lower amounts because money is set aside for the progressive? Or is money set aside for the progressive only by those players betting enough to qualify for the progressive?
I think most of the rewards is predicted unsold overstock.
I think the slots are totally random regardless if you bought chips or not. I figure very few pay but those that do, its pure profit for the site. Sometimes I can have 10k and build it to over a 100k playing endlessly. Sometimes I can have 100k and have it go real fast.
I think playstudios is good with MGM because I watch every ad on the mobile device for extra chips. Don't really watch, hit accept and walk away and come back when the ad is over. Some games, its all about the ads.
Now, I only play once a month or so just to keep the account active.
My GF plays both our accounts, andd has helped relatives get accounts rolling. She swears that on slots, it will let low chipped accounts win, and high chipped accounts will drain chips. She absolutely understands selective memory, however once it becomes somewhat predictable I'm not so sure its selective memory.Quote: CrystalMathI had a short chat with one of the MyVegas employees, and according to him, the payback% will bump up when you are getting low on credits.
Quote: AxelWolfMy GF plays both our accounts, andd has helped relatives get accounts rolling. She swears that on slots, it will let low chipped accounts win, and high chipped accounts will drain chips. She absolutely understands selective memory, however once it becomes somewhat predictable I'm not so sure its selective memory.
Yes i had my biggest hits playing 600-3000 chips, whereas a 10k spin nets nada. Of course this is % of chips bet, not amount won. Nowadays i only play when there is a bonus going on or i am close to the next level. Its not a big deal since there is no investment on my part aside from time.
Quote: CrystalMathI had a short chat with one of the MyVegas employees, and according to him, the payback% will bump up when you are getting low on credits. I haven't seen any noticeable difference, though. Granted, the high volatility of slots masks the return to the player. Also, according to him and my own tests, the blackjack is completely random.
Now, I only play once a month or so just to keep the account active.
Does low chips mean the lowest amount you can bet, such as 60 chips, or lowest possible bet on a current denomination (30k left with 30k per spin)? Sounds highly exploitable if the second is true.
Quote: djatcDoes low chips mean the lowest amount you can bet, such as 60 chips, or lowest possible bet on a current denomination (30k left with 30k per spin)? Sounds highly exploitable if the second is true.
I think it depends just on your bankroll getting low, regardless of your bet. I wasn't able to get any details, though.
I only have about a dozen 'friends' on MyVegas , but I am pretty good about collecting all the Hotel payouts a couple times a day.
I only play the slots, never played on mobile since i have a BB.
The Lotus slot (betting 15k) was very good to me when it first came out, I ran 6M red up to about 12M over a week or so, it was a crazy good run.
Generally I don't go after all of the special bonuses like hatching the eggs, etc. It takes a LOT of chips to earn those.
As far as strategy, I dunno, I guess just make sure that you quit playing for the day when you max out your gold earning for the day. My favorite slots are Lotus and Frontier Fortune right now. I used to play BetRock a lot, but had a real sour run on that recently. I also play the pop star one and Around the World in 80 days here and there too.
I usually bet around 15k/spin.
I'm really kicking myself for not booking those premium Zarkana tix. My buddy got them, so I guess I'll be sitting in the back in the 'standard' seat when we go to the show.
Quote: thegov2k2I must not be doing this right, since I have no idea what the "collecting all the hotel payouts" means. Could someone enlighten me? I only play on mobile, if that helps.
There you go, not available on mobile :-(
Quote: slyther
Generally I don't go after all of the special bonuses like hatching the eggs, etc. It takes a LOT of chips to earn those.
The first level of bonus is pretty easy to get, like collecting 5-10 trinkets. After that it is totally gaffed imo. But then again i have no statistical evidence and i overbet my bankroll.
For our next trip, Mrs Q and I have the following lined up from myVegas:
- Jabbawockeez
- Chris Angel Believe
- Tournament of Kinds ("show" AND a "dinner")
- Australian Beegees tribute
- Lunch Buffet at Red Rock
I admit that these shows were much lower on our priority list, but I haven't seen any of them yet. I have seen several of the myVegas Cirque shows a couple times, and Beatles Love several times. I highly recommend it.
Quote: JohnnyQOf course I'd still prefer to see the premium seats for the premium Cirque shows available, BUT I was able to see most (maybe all) of those on previous trips over the past couple of years with myVegas. In the early days, we saw Terry Fator and we even had front row center seats to "O" at Bellagio once. Very nice.
For our next trip, Mrs Q and I have the following lined up from myVegas:
- Jabbawockeez
- Chris Angel Believe
- Tournament of Kinds ("show" AND a "dinner")
- Australian Beegees tribute
- Lunch Buffet at Red Rock
I admit that these shows were much lower on our priority list, but I haven't seen any of them yet. I have seen several of the myVegas Cirque shows a couple times, and Beatles Love several times. I highly recommend it.
Just a note about the Jabbawockeez show... it's very LOUD. A very young club atmosphere. I had seen them on America's Best Dance Crew on TV in the past and that's what led me to wanting tickets for the Vegas live show. These are guys from their dance crew but not necessarily the same guys from the competitive team. Of course, they have the very clever invention of the masks so you never know who it really is. I found the dance routines not as technically difficult or as interesting as the ones they performed on TV. I know the pickings for shows are slim on MyVegas anyway but if there's something else you'd rather spend the points on, I'd suggest shuffling Jabbawockeez lower on the priority list.
Quote: ChereyaJust a note about the Jabbawockeez show... it's very LOUD. A very young club atmosphere.
Thanks for the tip. We'll bring ear plugs just in case. I saw AMERICAN IDIOT recently, and it was loud, but not crazy loud.
Quote: Chereya
I know the pickings for shows are slim on MyVegas anyway but if there's something else you'd rather spend the points on, I'd suggest shuffling Jabbawockeez lower on the priority list.
Yep, that's the problem. The best myVegas offers for the best Vegas shows are gone. But it is still an amusing free game and I'll probably still play, at least until they devalue things another notch.
I'd like to plan a trip for the middle of January. How far in advance am I able to redeem points and can I book consecutive free nights at the same hotel?
Appreciate any help!
PYCR
Quote: PlayYourCardsRightHas anyone tried to redeem MyVegas rewards for hotel stays? I've collected about 200,000 gold coins on the mobile version, mostly MV Blackjack and the MyKonami slots.
I'd like to plan a trip for the middle of January. How far in advance am I able to redeem points and can I book consecutive free nights at the same hotel?
Appreciate any help!
PYCR
Have you tried to find on their website? I saw a few people who did that.
As far as I know points are valid for 3 months - that's for sure but I just start my myvegas game so I'm not sure 100%
I see 5 total:
- 1 for Bellagio Gallery of Fine Arts (we did this one last year, it was good, but it isn't exactly a show, is it ?).
- 2 for House of Blues
- 2 for Hippodrome (London isn't in my travel plans).
Hopefully things will pick up. RIP myVegas.
