EvenBob
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April 13th, 2011 at 11:35:05 PM permalink
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These electronic "hockey puck lights" or G3 keypads are in common table use.



Where? I have no idea what you're talking about. All I ever see are regular roulette tables.
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MrCasinoGames
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April 13th, 2011 at 11:48:18 PM permalink
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What's more, word bets wouldn't pay out all at the same time, unlike the repetition bet, making the game less volatile for the operator.


I like your word bets idea.
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MrCasinoGames
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April 13th, 2011 at 11:52:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Its silly, a waste of time. Roulette has been perfect for over 200 years, why mess with it.


I don't agree with these.
What about poker and blackjack are these games not been perfect it yet? Why are we still making games based on them?

My Roulette variant: Roukette Link-Bets® (Play in UK 2011)
The introduction of the Roulette Link-Bets and Layout heralds the most important change in Roulette betting combinations. New betting combinations now available include Link-Splits, Link-Corners.

Note: The game now has four Splits bets and four Corners bets on any number in the outside columns (except 34 and 36)!

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April 14th, 2011 at 12:35:39 AM permalink
Lotteries were usually "names" rather than numbers.
I see no reason why this alphabetic roulette should become popular however and would not wasted floor space with it.
EvenBob
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April 14th, 2011 at 12:44:08 AM permalink
Quote: MrCasinoGames



My Roulette variant: Roukette Link-Bets™



From a players point of view, if you exclude the 1-2-3-0-00 bet, all bets in roulette are the same, there are no 'better' bets, they're all equal. Adding more nonsense isn't doing the player any favors, the house edge is still the same.
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MrCasinoGames
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April 14th, 2011 at 2:14:58 AM permalink
EvenBob

Yes, the house edge is still the same.
The intervention of Roukette Link-Bets™ is just to give the player more betting options, not try to change the house edge.
And yes we are not doing the player any favors, but are all casino games inventors here to invent games to favours the players?
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April 14th, 2011 at 2:39:04 AM permalink
Quote: MrCasinoGames

EvenBob

Yes, the house edge is still the same.
The intervention of Roukette Link-Bets™ is just to give the player more betting options, not try to change the house edge.
And yes we are not doing the player any favors, but are all casino games inventors here to invent games to favours the players?



Stephen is right.
Casino game designers WORK for the house - and we get paid by the house - but we also try very hard to consider gamblers' needs. What gamers want is a game that gives an even edge, or a gamblers edge. Simply will not happen.

If a group of tough gamblers tried to open up a casino tomorrow, they would very quickly see the way of the casino operator in this problem - when THEY are banking things against rough gamblers.

Again, it is a cat-and-mouse situation.
When things are fairly equal - with a little edge to the cat - they're both running around, and everyone is happy with the action taking place.
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April 14th, 2011 at 2:42:44 AM permalink
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And yes we are not doing the player any favors, but are all casino games inventors here to invent games to favours the players?



I look at everything from the players standpoint and not screwing him any further than they already are. Silly me..

One of my favorite quotes from the TV show 'Deadwood', is where one gambling hall owner is discussing with another gambling hall owner about how to get the chumps to bet more. Al Swearengen says "We could knock them over the head and throw their bodies in the river, but that would be illegal." This is still the attitude of todays casino owners, and its still illegal.
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April 14th, 2011 at 3:25:58 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I look at everything from the players standpoint and not screwing him any further than they already are. Silly me..

One of my favorite quotes from the TV show 'Deadwood', is where one gambling hall owner is discussing with another gambling hall owner about how to get the chumps to bet more. Al Swearengen says "We could knock them over the head and throw their bodies in the river, but that would be illegal." This is still the attitude of todays casino owners, and its still illegal.



No, this isn't the attitude of casino operators, it really isn't, and if it were, the cleaner and better casino would always get the good business from its good practices.

I'm a casino dealer, and I see players time and time again announce the casino operator is the dog, as the player attempts a theft or cheating manouever, while announcing that the casino is a thief. I see it there in the casino pit, and I sometimes see this attitude here, on a gamblers' forum.

Casino players routinely take shots at the casino and its dealers, while pointing to Deadwood episodes.
I see it in my casino job, and I see it here.

A dozen times a workday I'd like to tell some gamblers, "get a job as a casino dealer, and take a 'shot' at yourself, and see what this attitude is like."

Bob, if you were knocked over the head and thrown into the river by a casino dealer, you wouldn't still be going to casinos.

Casino dealers get knock in the head and thrown into the river every day by 'shot-taking' casino players, especially at a crap game, and that's the real story.
We also get told to swallow this behavior in the sake of being professional. We do, and we pay our bills.
What I'd like to see as a professional casino dealer is a professional casino player; actually, I frequently do, and they stand out. But it's a mixed bag.

Edit: actually, anyone would be a complete idiot to consider the casinos to be complete thieves who are against them - and then give them their patronage.
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April 14th, 2011 at 3:52:13 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

No, this isn't the attitude of casino operators, it really isn't



So, in your opinion, the casino bends over backwards to give the player a 'good deal'? The days of Benny Binion, who said: "Until a players last check to us bounces, our job isn't done", those days are no longer here? When a player loses his car and his house gambling, the casino cries itself to sleep every night? Thats the story you're going with? The casino is just the modern extension of the old time traveling carnival, where customers were called 'marks', and every game was fixed. Now every game is legally fixed, so its OK. People can go and get fleeced without fear of being knocked on the head and thrown in the river. Don't kid a kidder, I've been going to casinos since 1975.

>Edit: actually, anyone would be a complete idiot to consider the casinos to be complete thieves who are against them - and then give them their patronage.>

Of course they're thieves, but legal thieves. They cheat you with the house edge. And if you try and get around the HE by using your head, like in BJ, not too long ago you were taken into a back room and beaten half to death. Thats the casino you're trying to tell us has completely 'changed'. Sure they have. As far as giving them patronage, you're correct.
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