mrsuit31
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December 15th, 2019 at 9:19:58 AM permalink
Hi All,

Happy to introduce my newest and first BJ side wager release, "Empty The Rack Blackjack".

This BJ side wager pays according to the following pay table (Player hands apply ti the player's initial 2 cards dealt):

Suited BJ vs Suited BJ .......... 40 to 1
BJ vs BJ ...................................... 15 to 1
Player 20 vs Dealer BJ ......... 11 to 1
Player BJ ...................................... 4 to 1
Player 10 & 11 or 88/AA ...... 3 to 1
Player 20 (including A/9) ...... 1 to 1

25.4% hit rate

HA:
8 Deck = 7.2213%
6 Deck = 7.3170%

AP analysis has been conducted by Charles M.

Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts good, bad or ugly, as always.
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mrsuit31Forager
December 15th, 2019 at 9:30:35 AM permalink
Quote: mrsuit31

Hi All,

Happy to introduce my newest and first BJ side wager release, "Empty The Rack Blackjack".

This BJ side wager pays according to the following pay table (Player hands apply ti the player's initial 2 cards dealt):

Suited BJ vs Suited BJ .......... 40 to 1
BJ vs BJ ...................................... 15 to 1
Player 20 vs Dealer BJ ......... 11 to 1
Player BJ ...................................... 4 to 1
Player 10 & 11 or 88/AA ...... 3 to 1
Player 20 (including A/9) ...... 1 to 1

25.4% hit rate

HA:
8 Deck = 7.2213%
6 Deck = 7.3170%

AP analysis has been conducted by Charles M.

Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts good, bad or ugly, as always.



Honestly it looks like just another boring blackjack sidebet. Likely to not do well.
mrsuit31
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December 15th, 2019 at 9:34:08 AM permalink
Thanks for the feedback Max. This is really just a secondary product to have in the portfolio in the event a client is interested in a different side wager, if they are looking to explore a subscription type lease model like the others are doing these days...

Thank you for taking the time to respond nonetheless!
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sabre
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December 15th, 2019 at 9:39:10 AM permalink
Counters will love it
mrsuit31
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December 15th, 2019 at 9:40:08 AM permalink
Quote: sabre

Counters will love it



Not as much as you would think according to Charles's report.
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Gialmere
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mrsuit31
December 15th, 2019 at 10:23:07 AM permalink
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Player 10 & 11 or 88/AA ...... 3 to 1


I'm a little confused by this payout. Is it the wager pays 3:1 if the player gets a dealt 10 OR 11, or gets a pair of 8s, 9s, 10s, Js, Qs, Ks, or As?
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
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Gialmere
December 15th, 2019 at 10:30:18 AM permalink
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I'm a little confused by this payout. Is it the wager pays 3:1 if the player gets a dealt 10 OR 11, or gets a pair of 8s, 9s, 10s, Js, Qs, Ks, or As?



Sorry about the ambiguity.

This is a more clear table for that payout:

Suited BJ vs Suited BJ ................. 40 to 1
BJ vs BJ ........................................ 15 to 1
Player 20 vs Dealer BJ .................. 11 to 1
Player BJ ....................................... 4 to 1
Player 10 & 11 or pair 8s & As........ 3 to 1
Player 20 (including A/9) .................. 1 to 1

The 3 to 1 pays on player hard 10 or 11 and a player pair of 8s or As (no other pairs).

The wager is designed to increase volatility, while also creating a little insurance or windfall feelings on the hands that A) the player is supposed to win (e.g. 20s and BJs) and B) the hands where players add to/increase the main BJ wager on the split hands (8s & As) and double hands (hard 10 & 11s).

Also to clarify, the top pay does not have to be the same suited BJ. For example, player suited spade BJ vs Dealer suited Heart BJ qualifies for the top pay. Of course a same suited BJ vs BJ can be added or even a perfect match BJ vs BJ for a progressive or very large top pay. That said, I wanted to keep the pay tables somewhat minimal.
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billryan
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December 15th, 2019 at 11:23:05 AM permalink
I don't play side bets but see enough action that I can see it working. Payoffs should be fairly frequent and people like that.
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December 15th, 2019 at 11:47:18 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I don't play side bets but see enough action that I can see it working. Payoffs should be fairly frequent and people like that.



Thank you Billy.
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mrsuit31
December 15th, 2019 at 12:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: mrsuit31

Sorry about the ambiguity.

This is a more clear table for that payout:

Suited BJ vs Suited BJ ................. 40 to 1
BJ vs BJ ........................................ 15 to 1
Player 20 vs Dealer BJ .................. 11 to 1
Player BJ ....................................... 4 to 1
Player 10 & 11 or pair 8s & As........ 3 to 1
Player 20 (including A/9) .................. 1 to 1

The 3 to 1 pays on player hard 10 or 11 and a player pair of 8s or As (no other pairs).

The wager is designed to increase volatility, while also creating a little insurance or windfall feelings on the hands that A) the player is supposed to win (e.g. 20s and BJs) and B) the hands where players add to/increase the main BJ wager on the split hands (8s & As) and double hands (hard 10 & 11s).

Also to clarify, the top pay does not have to be the same suited BJ. For example, player suited spade BJ vs Dealer suited Heart BJ qualifies for the top pay. Of course a same suited BJ vs BJ can be added or even a perfect match BJ vs BJ for a progressive or very large top pay. That said, I wanted to keep the pay tables somewhat minimal.



mrsuit31,

Must the "10" be hard? So A-9 does NOT count as 10 for purposes of this sidebet?

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