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January 29th, 2019 at 7:32:06 PM permalink
I have trouble counting to 21, let alone 31.
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January 29th, 2019 at 7:46:17 PM permalink
I really appreciate the kind words folks. I am a big fan of this game for a few of the reasons you have all stated.

Quote: Gialmere

For starters, I like the name "3 Card Fury". The side bet is interesting, paying on both 3 and 4 card combinations. I got a 3-card straight flush on my second hand so that was enticing. I need to sit down with this when I have more time.

Also the table art is amusing with a 4th card ace up the sleeve. Clever.



Thank you! I also liked the Ace up the sleeve. I felt it was a fun/appropriate addition to the logo for this game. I am actually having a more modern logo done, as I would like a little flasher new age logo to go along with the game. I am making sure the designer incorporates that into the logo he comes up with (at least I requested that he do so).

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I played it for a while a few days ago and found it to be one of the best 3 card variations I've played and much more fun than regular Three Card Poker.

Three Card Poker is a dying game, so I wonder if this can add a little life back into it. I would definitely play it if I saw it somewhere.


ZCore13



Thank you Z, I really appreciate that! I hope it does. When I formally start marketing the game in the next week or so, I hope to be able to supply a few locations where you can give it a go in the near future. Hopeful updates to follow on that.

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I also agree 100%
3CP had a great run to say the least.
I used to deal 3CP by hand (in the late 1990s) before the shufflers took over and remember many wonderful sessions from that. shufflers kind of removed some of the sparks to the game.

This game has the coolness that the player gets the extra card. great to turn the table, so to speak. Many will play this game and play instead of maybe 4 card poker.
sure bet
enjoyed the demo game



Much appreciated 7craps! I have always heard players (and myself) make comments about "when are we going to get more cards than the dealer?". Now I/we have an answer to that question. The novelty of the extra card, is one I think has some good legs to it (or shall I say hope). Time will tell there...
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January 29th, 2019 at 11:11:39 PM permalink
About to play the demo.
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January 30th, 2019 at 9:27:07 AM permalink
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About to play the demo



Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
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February 8th, 2019 at 11:47:10 AM permalink
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...the strategy is to play with any Q high or better....

I've just had a quick play and also fell for the Ante pays if the dealer doesn't qualify and thought you'd always play (same logic as given earlier). However if you've got to beat the dealer to win your Ante (assuming a tie is standoff) then my intuition was very similar to regular 3CP (except you can't get paid if the dealer gets something like Q32), so you would play something a tad (or is it smidge!) higher than Q64. I've quickly cranked the numbers and get that you play some Q752 or anything higher (e.g. play Qs7h5d2c fold Qs7h5d2d etc.).
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February 8th, 2019 at 2:26:59 PM permalink
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I've just had a quick play and also fell for the Ante pays if the dealer doesn't qualify and thought you'd always play (same logic as given earlier).



On the live felt, this rule will sit between the Ante and Play wager circles, so there shouldn't be any confusion. Sorry about that.... Limited space on the demo layout. So perhaps that rule off to the corner doesn't do its job so well.

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However if you've got to beat the dealer to win your Ante (assuming a tie is standoff)



Correct, its a standoff indeed.

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I've quickly cranked the numbers and get that you play some Q752 or anything higher (e.g. play Qs7h5d2c fold Qs7h5d2d etc.).



A) Thank you for that!

B) I'll let Miplet chime in as he is the brains behind the optimal strategy :)



P.S. I've asked the mods to change the thread title to the true game name of Advantage Play 3 Card Fury. Please don't be confused if you see that pop up on the threads list shortly :)



What did you think about the game? Did you enjoy it?
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February 8th, 2019 at 3:42:52 PM permalink
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What did you think about the game? Did you enjoy it?

If I'm playing 3CP (usually for fun) then I only play the base game. One of the nice things is you make a profit with a bad hand (Qxx-Axx) if the dealer doesn't qualify, however on this game you break even. I haven't looked into the mathematics that much but would prefer the mandated bet to push if you beat the dealer (this probably means the payouts would need to be lower and I can appreciate having a headline 25/1). There's been a discussion - https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/32402-super-three-card/ - about another 3-card poker based game and that has an interesting idea to take back some House Edge.

There is a great advantage in having four cards and it means players will tend to have better hands. I actually looked at various ideas using 3 from 4 a few years ago but personally preferred giving the dealer any slight advantage going; this meant one had scope to add some nice payouts for the player or allow the dealer to always qualify. Giving the player the advantage means you need a mandated bet (or similar idea). Thus the game will tend to have more times where the player breaks even or only wins one unit, compared to the same hands the other way round where you lose two or three units.

I did enjoy playing the game, it was easy to determine whether you played or folded. Also the thought of knowing you were only up against the dealer's three cards gave a good feeling that you had a better chance "to win".
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:09:17 PM permalink
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I did enjoy playing the game, it was easy to determine whether you played or folded. Also the thought of knowing you were only up against the dealer's three cards gave a good feeling that you had a better chance "to win".



Thank you. That is the feeling I was hoping to create!

I should be able to confirm the first trial within the next few weeks :-)
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February 8th, 2019 at 4:35:58 PM permalink
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I've just had a quick play and also fell for the Ante pays if the dealer doesn't qualify and thought you'd always play (same logic as given earlier). However if you've got to beat the dealer to win your Ante (assuming a tie is standoff) then my intuition was very similar to regular 3CP (except you can't get paid if the dealer gets something like Q32), so you would play something a tad (or is it smidge!) higher than Q64. I've quickly cranked the numbers and get that you play some Q752 or anything higher (e.g. play Qs7h5d2c fold Qs7h5d2d etc.).



Here is my return table for Q532 all different suits:
HandOutcomeDealer QualifyPaysCombinationsProb.Return
High CardWinNo053970.3120374650
High CardTieNo-1260.001503238-0.001503238
High CardLoseNo-215460.089384829-0.178769658
High CardLoseYes-3103270.597074468-1.791223404
Total 172961-1.9714963


Folding is -2 so you play this hand.
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February 8th, 2019 at 5:51:58 PM permalink
Thanks I agree with your figures - my mistake was thinking you'd lost one bet so it went back to standard 3CP (i.e. did you win 1, tie or lose 2?), but I forgot you don't lose so much if the dealer only has a Q-high, and this swings the decision.

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