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RoyalBJ
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March 24th, 2016 at 12:39:20 AM permalink
I played ď4 Card SplitĒ at Suncoast. No one has written about this game on the forum yet. There is a rack cad for the game; I donít know the house edge.

Itís really fun. Most players here were retirees and everyone seemed to have a great time.

The game seems to have Blackjack, 3 Card Poker and Pai Gow elements. There are 3 mandatory bets: one 4-Card Blind and two 3 card Antes:

* 4-Card-Blind: itís a mandatory side bet, like Royal Match in Blackjack or Fortune in Fortune Pai Gow, paying a bonus on playerís 4 hole cards. I was told some one hit 4-card Royal the day right after it opened, paid 500 to 1

* 3-card Ante: player splits 4 cards into 2 hands and gets additional hit card(s), like blackjack, to play 2 hands of 3-card-poker. Player gets paid on Natural (3-card flush or higher) with odds. This behaves like getting a blackjack in 21. When the final 3-card poker wins with flush or better, player wins multiples on Ante.
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Wizard
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March 24th, 2016 at 5:45:17 AM permalink
I played the day after it opened. I hope to write up a page on the game early next week.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
kobalj
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March 24th, 2016 at 1:23:28 PM permalink
That sounds simple enough yet still fun. I'd play it. Good luck to you.
Romes
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March 24th, 2016 at 1:28:23 PM permalink
Quote: kobalj

That sounds simple enough yet still fun. I'd play it. Good luck to you.

Simple enough? 2 ante bets and a forced blind "side bet." It seems more and more new casino games involve 9 side bets all the dealers will push you to play since "that's where the money's at." A $10 table quickly becomes a $50/hand table when you have all of these antes/blinds/side bets.

The game the OP is referring to sounds "interesting" at least. It doesn't sound simple, but it sounds fun.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Hittem
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March 24th, 2016 at 1:33:34 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Simple enough? 2 ante bets and a forced blind "side bet." It seems more and more new casino games involve 9 side bets all the dealers will push you to play since "that's where the money's at." A $10 table quickly becomes a $50/hand table when you have all of these antes/blinds/side bets.

The game the OP is referring to sounds "interesting" at least. It doesn't sound simple, but it sounds fun.



I agree.
RoyalBJ
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March 24th, 2016 at 3:57:46 PM permalink
In Vegas, on the strip, Casino War, High Card Flush, 3 Card Poker are winners; But local players like games with some simple strategies. Two different market segments.
Hittem
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March 24th, 2016 at 4:06:28 PM permalink
Quote: RoyalBJ

I played ď4 Card SplitĒ at Suncoast. No one has written about this game on the forum yet. There is a rack cad for the game; I donít know the house edge.

Itís really fun. Most players here were retirees and everyone seemed to have a great time.

The game seems to have Blackjack, 3 Card Poker and Pai Gow elements. There are 3 mandatory bets: one 4-Card Blind and two 3 card Antes:

* 4-Card-Blind: itís a mandatory side bet, like Royal Match in Blackjack or Fortune in Fortune Pai Gow, paying a bonus on playerís 4 hole cards. I was told some one hit 4-card Royal the day right after it opened, paid 500 to 1

* 3-card Ante: player splits 4 cards into 2 hands and gets additional hit card(s), like blackjack, to play 2 hands of 3-card-poker. Player gets paid on Natural (3-card flush or higher) with odds. This behaves like getting a blackjack in 21. When the final 3-card poker wins with flush or better, player wins multiples on Ante.



Neither Fortune Pai Gow or Royal Match are mandatory though.
Zcore13
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March 24th, 2016 at 4:10:41 PM permalink
I think I reviewed this one about a year or year and a half ago. I really like it.

Found it:

Quote: ZCore13


4 Card Split

I think this game might have made the top 3 had they been able to enter the game into the competition. The owner said that he got the math back and wanted to enter the competition after the date allowed for entrants.

4 Card Split is basically Three Card Poker with a bunch of twists. To start you place 2 antes and a blind bet. You are then dealt 4 cards and the dealer is dealt 4 cards, with one of the dealers 4 cards face up for all to see. You now decide how you want to play your 4 cards into 2 different Three Card Poker hands. You can put 3 in one hand and 1 in another or split them 2 and 2. If you make a 3 card hand of a flush or better you don't even have to play against the dealer with that hand, it's an automatic winner on the Blind Bet and your Ante is pushed back to you for that hand. No dealer qualifying or comparing to their hand. You can then play your second hand with the one remaining card or fold you ante. My guess is if your card is a face card and the dealers up card is lower it should be played.

The odds paid on the Blind bet are:

Flush - 2:1
Straight - 2:1 (which I would probably want to raise to 3-1 and lower one of the higher payments to compensate if I could)
3 of a Kind - 8:1
Straight Flush - 15:1
Royal Flush - 40:1

If there is not a 3 card winning hand right off the bat you then choose to play or fold your hands. To play you match your ante wager with a raise wager of equal amount. To fold you discard one to 3 cards and lose your ante. Any hand that you play will receive the amount of cards you need to make a Three Card Poker hand. One of the interesting things I found about this game was that if you are dealt a hand of let's say A, Q, J, 5 (rainbow), against an up card of a Q for the dealer, how do you play it? Keep the Ace Queen Jack and have a really good chance of winning one hand but folding the other, or keep just the Ace or Ace Five and have a strong second hand of Queen Jack. It seemed to me there is a lot of player choice, which players like.
After you decide on which, if any, hands you will play and receive the cards to create your final hand, the dealer then exposes the rest of their hand and makes a Three Card Poker hand. Queen high qualifies and the hand is compared to players hands just like Three Card Poker, with ante and raise bets being paid even money on wins.

If I had a bigger Pit I would seriously consider this game. I'm struggling right now thinking I could replace Three Card Poker with this game and save a lot of money on the monthly lease and still have a very good Three Card game. The question is does a Pit need Three Card Poker just for the name recognition alone to grab novice Table Games players and die hard Three Card Poker players? To me this is a better game (as are a few other versions that have come out after the original) than Three Card Poker. The dilemmas of being the boss.



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RoyalBJ
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March 24th, 2016 at 4:18:23 PM permalink
Quote: Hittem

Neither Fortune Pai Gow or Royal Match are mandatory though.

I meant to say the "behavior" is like Fortune in Fortune Pai Gow, looking at all 4 cards to decide the payout, regardless of how one splits his cards into 2 hands.

May be I should have compared the 4-Card Blind to the mandatory BLIND bet in UTH or Crazy 4.

I think being "interesting" is critical to casinos. It matters to drops.

Wizard will write about it next week, so details are coming.
RoyalBJ
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March 24th, 2016 at 4:22:50 PM permalink
The rules are a bit different from what Zcore described. I think it's an updated version, same mechanics though.

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