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teddys
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November 21st, 2011 at 5:07:19 PM permalink
I just received an offer from BConnected for two free nights at any of these properties. I plan to use them on my next trip. I have never stayed in any of them. (Note that the one place I have stayed, the Gold Coast, is not included.) Keep in mind that I may or may not have a car this trip. Not that any of these hotels are hard to get to on public transit (especially with the new WAX).
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November 21st, 2011 at 5:21:05 PM permalink
I'd vote first for MSS, second for SamsTown.
Even if once there you have to stay put for some extreme reason, there good properties for that unlikely event.
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November 21st, 2011 at 5:33:02 PM permalink
I normally stay at the Orleans, so it's the one I'd prefer to stay at if I'm paying.

However, if I was offered a free room at MSS, I'd give it a go. I really like the casino and beer their (even if I did have security ask me to check my bag as I looked like I might be carrying a gun.... !!!).
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November 21st, 2011 at 5:57:35 PM permalink
I like MSS, good craps, good VP, and low limit PGP for when I want to slow down and drink some brews. Not much food in terms aside from the buffet and the brewpub, but you're so close to Fremont St that you can eat anything else.

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November 21st, 2011 at 6:17:05 PM permalink
Quote: toastcmu

I like MSS, good craps, good VP, and low limit PGP for when I want to slow down and drink some brews. Not much food in terms aside from the buffet and the brewpub, but you're so close to Fremont St that you can eat anything else.

-B


MSS is really nice. California is basically the same property since they are connected by a bridge, but MSS is much newer. The Craps with 100X odds is a real draw. The buffet as MSS is a steal, plus Happy Hour at the brew pub is great for prime rib. Sushi is terrible

The Fremont is badly aging property. I would go for Orleans after MSS and California. I don't like Sam's Town. I think it is way too isolated.

Suncoast is a new property, but it's a long bus ride. The games are not as good. If you were going with a woman, I would head here.
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November 21st, 2011 at 6:43:05 PM permalink
I voted Orleans because I often stay there and like it. However, if you don't have a car I'd go with MSS just because you can walk to Fremont Street and have a choice of places to go, including the reopened Plaza.
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November 21st, 2011 at 7:27:26 PM permalink
I voted for the Orleans. The MSS is not a bad choice, but the Orleans is nicer and bigger. The Suncoast is about equal to the Orleans, but is way out in the boondocks, by my house.
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November 21st, 2011 at 8:22:21 PM permalink
You also have free shuttle service to consider to the strip and other properties.

http://www.samstownlv.com/stay/shuttle-service
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November 21st, 2011 at 8:33:39 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

The Craps with 100X odds is a real draw.



100X?

I thought it was 20X.
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November 21st, 2011 at 9:33:11 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I just received an offer from BConnected for two free nights at any of these properties. I plan to use them on my next trip. I have never stayed in any of them. (Note that the one place I have stayed, the Gold Coast, is not included.) Keep in mind that I may or may not have a car this trip. Not that any of these hotels are hard to get to on public transit (especially with the new WAX).



I'm not sure what your preferences are for a trip to LV, other than what you've said, so I can't refine my recommendations for you.

But based on my preferences, I'd rank them thusly: Fremont, Orleans, Cal, MSS, Sam's Town, Suncoast. This comes from someone who's stayed at the Fremont and Orleans. Both rooms were decent, but failed to knock my socks off. The downtown properties have the advantage of being on (or near) Fremont St., but are smaller and older than the others. The Orleans and Sam's Town are big, sprawly, with lots of on-property amenities, but a bit away from the action (which i define as the Strip and downtown). I have never been to the Suncoast.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 5:46:25 AM permalink
MSS is 20x but has beer and food bargains.
SamsTown is 10x plus weird side bets but food is "average" to "good" depending upon your budget, tastes and inclination to trek elsewhere.
If an air conditioned, fully-stocked Limousine were available, I'd leave SamsTown to get 20x and better food and better beer.
If an air conditioned, fully-stocked Limousine were available, I'd leave MSS to get to a better and quieter room at SamsTown and a better overall chance at slots for my companion.
The trouble is... People who go to SamsTown and most of the people who go to MSS do not have air-conditioned, fully stocked Limousines available to them: its cabs, buses or shuttle combinations.
So the net result would probably be "stay put". Certainly would be for me. However, some people don't mind various "treks" and consider them "adventures". I'd toss a coin if I had to, but I'd stay put whatever the result was.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 7:45:24 AM permalink
I used to split my time between The Orleans and MSS. I now stay just a MSS, mostly to avoid the adventure of trekking around.

I like The Orleans because of the many low limit Pai-Gow tables, most of which are low tables where you can put your feet on the floor. Last time I was there they had turned half of their Pai-Gow tables into mini-bac tables. I could not get a seat at Pai-Gow any time of the day or night for my entire 2-3 day stay. Mini-bac had several seats available.

The Orleans is a much bigger casino with more amenities like a pool, food court, and many dining options like Big Al's Oyster Bar. With MSS you have the brewpub and buffet, the cafe and shops on The Cal side of the land bridge, plus all of Fremont Street. With The Orleans you have to catch a shuttle to go anywhere else. With MSS you can walk everywhere downtown, or catch the express down to the strip.

MSS has better VP, although The Orleans has much more VP. I'm a simple 9/6 JoB player, which MSS has in abundance, and The Orleans does not have at all.

The deciding vote for me is the beer. MSS makes very good beer. You can buy it outright for $1.75 all day long at the casino bar, which happens to have 18 VP machines that include my preferred 9/6 JoB, where I drink for free. The Orleans has Sierra Nevada Pale Ale for half of the pit. They have a new micro bar by the cabaret that has a good selection of hoppy beers, but 8/5 JoB to go with it.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 8:49:54 AM permalink
Sam's Town without question. Best VP of any Boyd property. Sam's Town actually thinks they are a Station property. Much better
buffet than Orleans, better check-in service, great shuttle service to strip and downtown. Different type of clientele, but I'll take dirtier
over loudmouth any day. The elevator deal is far superior, also. Parking much easier. And you will, in general, spend much less time
"walking." Better offers to their better customers as well.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 10:14:42 AM permalink
The only knock on MSS is the noise. If your room faces the railroad tracks, the Union Pacific will make sure your sleep is interrupted. Parking is also a hassle, as their structure is not connected to the hotel. On the other hand, 20x craps ($5 minimum) and, what I think is dollar for dollar, the best buffet in Las Vegas, still make it my first choice. Tip: Brush up on your Pidgin English and wear an aloha shirt. Boyd may not shuttle you to the Strip, but they will shuttle you from HNL to LAS. The Cal, Fremont and Main Street are filled with folks from Hawaii and their local relatives. A great gambling crowd.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 3:55:07 PM permalink
This really is a tough choice.

Staying Downtown is so damned convenient. We've stayed at the Fremont about 5 times now, its' older rooms are very small, but clean and convenient for late nights of gambling at ANY of the Downtown casinos. The parking is valet only which makes it really nice. The Paradise buffet is usually a LITTLE above average. They also have a Dunkin Doughnuts for morning coffee now

A quick shot out the side door of the Fremont, behind Binion's, and you're in the back door of the Cal by the Craps pit. A quick ride up the escalator and across the bridge and you're in the MSS craps pit. I mean really, what could be sweeter!

Except for going out the front door of the Fremont and having the 4Queens, Golden Nugget and Binion's right in front of you!

We usually end up taking the free shuttle to Sam's Town from the Fremont or the Cal, which leave every 45 minutes, at least once during our stay. When we get to Sam's, it's like a breath of fresh air!

Newer, cleaner, spacious, great layout. Better VP, nice bingo room, large sports book, bowling, movies, TGIF's. It's a very relaxing atmosphere. I've even switched my home casino to Sam's for my B-Connected card offers. I would like to stay there sometime. It's just so far out on the Boulder Highway. There's also a shuttle from there to Harrah's on the strip I believe. The Cannery is next door but still a hike!

Unfortunately, we stayed at the Golden Nugget on our last visit. Now my wife refuses to stay anywhere else.

I would vote for the Fremont.

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November 22nd, 2011 at 4:19:24 PM permalink
Quote: kp

The deciding vote for me is the beer. MSS makes very good beer. You can buy it outright for $1.75 all day long at the casino bar, which happens to have 18 VP machines that include my preferred 9/6 JoB, where I drink for free. The Orleans has Sierra Nevada Pale Ale for half of the pit. They have a new micro bar by the cabaret that has a good selection of hoppy beers, but 8/5 JoB to go with it.



The Orleans has 8/5 Bonus Poker on the bar tops. And 7/5 elsewhere (seemed the wrong way around to me). 8/5 is 99.6% EV, as I recall. They also have Fat Tire on tap most bars, which makes me plenty happy.
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November 22nd, 2011 at 7:11:13 PM permalink
Quote: ten2win

This really is a tough choice.

Staying Downtown is so damned convenient. We've stayed at the Fremont about 5 times now, its' older rooms are very small, but clean and convenient for late nights of gambling at ANY of the Downtown casinos. The parking is valet only which makes it really nice. The Paradise buffet is usually a LITTLE above average. They also have a Dunkin Doughnuts for morning coffee now

A quick shot out the side door of the Fremont, behind Binion's, and you're in the back door of the Cal by the Craps pit. A quick ride up the escalator and across the bridge and you're in the MSS craps pit. I mean really, what could be sweeter!

Except for going out the front door of the Fremont and having the 4Queens, Golden Nugget and Binion's right in front of you!

We usually end up taking the free shuttle to Sam's Town from the Fremont or the Cal, which leave every 45 minutes, at least once during our stay. When we get to Sam's, it's like a breath of fresh air!

Newer, cleaner, spacious, great layout. Better VP, nice bingo room, large sports book, bowling, movies, TGIF's. It's a very relaxing atmosphere. I've even switched my home casino to Sam's for my B-Connected card offers. I would like to stay there sometime. It's just so far out on the Boulder Highway. There's also a shuttle from there to Harrah's on the strip I believe. The Cannery is next door but still a hike!

Unfortunately, we stayed at the Golden Nugget on our last visit. Now my wife refuses to stay anywhere else.

I would vote for the Fremont.

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Everything you said voted for Sams, but you didn't. Just hate the fresh air?
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November 23rd, 2011 at 8:24:25 AM permalink
Well, the people have spoken, and Main Street Station it is. To be honest, I was leaning towards downtown in the first place, but couldn't decide between Cal, Fremont, and MSS. So, glad that the choice has been made for me.

Now, to get on the phone to Tuscany to get them to book the three nights/$25 free play offer that they say I don't have anymore ... I will prevail!
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November 23rd, 2011 at 11:35:12 AM permalink
Maybe so, but if Tuscany will book you for free at their place, what does Boyd have to do with this? Goodbye MSS.
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November 23rd, 2011 at 12:02:03 PM permalink
Quote: dm

Maybe so, but if Tuscany will book you for free at their place, what does Boyd have to do with this? Goodbye MSS.

I was cruelly shot down by Tuscany. They said the host who made me the offer has now been fired, and the offer is rescinded. So, in so many words, f-them.

I was able to book MSS for one weekend and Gold Coast the next, with a 3-nights Harrah's comp (plus poker tourney freeroll!) in between. Will fill out the rest of the days with Wizard reviews. Anyway, I find this stuff interesting.
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November 23rd, 2011 at 2:49:00 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

I was cruelly shot down by Tuscany. They said the host who made me the offer has now been fired, and the offer is rescinded. So, in so many words, f-them.

I was able to book MSS for one weekend and Gold Coast the next, with a 3-nights Harrah's comp (plus poker tourney freeroll!) in between. Will fill out the rest of the days with Wizard reviews. Anyway, I find this stuff interesting.



I know some stuff but I'm not sure what you mean. And, are you left doing a few all nighters somewhere?
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November 23rd, 2011 at 5:17:13 PM permalink
Quote: dm

I know some stuff but I'm not sure what you mean. And, are you left doing a few all nighters somewhere?

No, I should be able to get everything for free. I'm trying to do a completely free trip. Will write a post about it later.
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December 7th, 2011 at 2:44:59 PM permalink
The question was "Where would you STAY" so I voted for the California. I love the MSS. The beer, the food, the vp. But I'm not a high roller so they always put me on the train/highway side. Now I stay at the Cal. The rooms are a bit smaller but they are quieter. And the Hawaiian clientel are very friendly. Everyone says "hi' on the elevator and striking up a conversation anywhere is easy. My kind of place to stay. But I LOVE the MSS for eating, drinking and gambling. Where else can you "piss" on the Berlin Wall (sorry ladies).
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December 7th, 2011 at 4:52:17 PM permalink
Thanks. By the way, if anyone wants to know the resolution of this, I followed the will of the people and chose Main Street Station. I will let you know how it is.
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December 7th, 2011 at 5:02:57 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

No, I should be able to get everything for free. I'm trying to do a completely free trip. Will write a post about it later.

Will be very interesting. Some people do seem to manage to get RFB and to more-or-less break even on the gambling.
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December 9th, 2011 at 8:38:06 AM permalink
Quote: downtowner

The question was "Where would you STAY" so I voted for the California. I love the MSS. The beer, the food, the vp. But I'm not a high roller so they always put me on the train/highway side. Now I stay at the Cal. The rooms are a bit smaller but they are quieter. And the Hawaiian clientel are very friendly. Everyone says "hi' on the elevator and striking up a conversation anywhere is easy. My kind of place to stay. But I LOVE the MSS for eating, drinking and gambling. Where else can you "piss" on the Berlin Wall (sorry ladies).

I kinda wish I had chose the California. I agree with you, it is very nice.

Last time I was there, I was walking through on my way to Fremont and stopped to watch two Hawaiian ladies playing Blazing Sevens dollar slots. One was complaining about how they had been having a losing trip. The other lady was commiserating with her. On my way back, the complaining lady had hit the jackpot. The other woman was congratulating her, hugging her, etc. She looked so happy. It was heartwarming -- kind of the opposite type of experience of the Wizard's seeing the dead person at the Hilton.

As far as I'm concerned, CalFreStation might as well be one property. I think Boyd treats it the same way, too.

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May 31st, 2012 at 4:15:35 AM permalink
Premises Liability action filed against MSS by 68 year old Hawaii resident who was mugged in men's room at 3:00am by homeless man. Alleges inadequate lighting, inadequate guards and that Hawaii marketing under 'home away from home' phrase was false and deceptive.
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June 10th, 2013 at 8:21:17 PM permalink
I voted for MSS even though you have already chosen. Live about 60 miles from Vegas and stay at the MSS RV Park. Basically a parking lot almost under I-95 it has all what we need. And at $14 a night a real steal! It's a buck extra per night for up to two pets. We have two small dogs and take them with us for a weekend of fun. It's a lousy neighborhood but security is present and no problems yet.
You will see homeless downtown and they do try to prowl the casinos. Security is always present and I or my wife rarely have a problem.
Be sure to check what Fremont Street Events are taking place at the time of your stay to determine what type of crowd there will be.
As stated, MSS usually has a Hawaiian crowd who are nice folks. Like the variety of video poker too!
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May 16th, 2022 at 6:28:26 PM permalink
Has anyone visited The Orleans lately and have some observations about the casino?

I'm subscribed to their Facebook and Twitter feeds, and I must say whoever handles that does a fantastic job because I'm at least curious about visiting next weekend.

I read E.J.'s review from 2016 and it doesn't sound like it's really worth a stop. (Unlike say, Palace Station, where they have pai gow tiles.)
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December 24th, 2022 at 8:26:24 AM permalink
I follow them on Facebook and Twitter, and I have to admit that whomever does that does an excellent job since I'm at least interested in going there next weekend..
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December 29th, 2022 at 4:16:06 AM permalink
I also follow them and i must admit that it would be interesting for to go there as well
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