Wizard’s video poker strategy maker
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
Quote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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Optimal strategy does not care how many coins you put in. You are just trying to get the best expected payoff because the coins bet are a sunk cost. Use the actual payoffs for the game without correcting them.
For JoB, the strategy for one coin or two coins should be the same. The strategy for 5 coins changes, but only because the relative payout for the RF increases to 800:1.
Thank you I will try that.Quote: MentalQuote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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Optimal strategy does not care how many coins you put in. You are just trying to get the best expected payoff because the coins bet are a sunk cost. Use the actual payoffs for the game without correcting them.
For JoB, the strategy for one coin or two coins should be the same. The strategy for 5 coins changes, but only because the relative payout for the RF increases to 800:1.
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It’s not giving the correct strategy because when I input the payoffs which are actually for a 6 coin bet but the strategy maker is set up for a 5 coin bet. So it’s over valuing some hands.Quote: MentalQuote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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Optimal strategy does not care how many coins you put in. You are just trying to get the best expected payoff because the coins bet are a sunk cost. Use the actual payoffs for the game without correcting them.
For JoB, the strategy for one coin or two coins should be the same. The strategy for 5 coins changes, but only because the relative payout for the RF increases to 800:1.
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Quote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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Have you looked at the first option, and changed "Standard Video Poker" to ... something else?
There are definitely some 6 and 10 coin options.
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker-analyzer/calculator/
edit: doh! I see now you are specifically talking about the strategy maker and NOT the paytable analyzer.
Quote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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I see the problem - the strategy calculator is making the assumption that the bet is 1 credit.
The "obvious answer" is to just enter the numbers "as is", then divide the value shown as the return by the number of coins entered.
Since every hand's expected value is multiplied by the same factor, it shouldn't affect the strategy.
yes I understand what you’re saying.in the case of a pair of jacks or better the paytable says 1 but for a bet of 6 credits it pays 5 credits. So I should change the 1 to 0.833 is that correct?Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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I see the problem - the strategy calculator is making the assumption that the bet is 1 credit.
The "obvious answer" is to just enter the numbers "as is", then divide the value shown as the return by the number of coins entered.
Since every hand's expected value is multiplied by the same factor, it shouldn't affect the strategy.
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Quote: Hunterhillyes I understand what you’re saying.in the case of a pair of jacks or better the paytable says 1 but for a bet of 6 credits it pays 5 credits. So I should change the 1 to 0.833 is that correct?Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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I see the problem - the strategy calculator is making the assumption that the bet is 1 credit.
The "obvious answer" is to just enter the numbers "as is", then divide the value shown as the return by the number of coins entered.
Since every hand's expected value is multiplied by the same factor, it shouldn't affect the strategy.
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If it accepts decimal values, then yes.
What bets change (and what bets don't) when you play 6 credits instead of 5?
the game is called super triple play bonus pokerQuote: ThatDonGuyQuote: Hunterhillyes I understand what you’re saying.in the case of a pair of jacks or better the paytable says 1 but for a bet of 6 credits it pays 5 credits. So I should change the 1 to 0.833 is that correct?Quote: ThatDonGuyQuote: HunterhillIs there a way to use the strategy maker for games that require more than 5 coins per bet. On The vp analyser it lets you adjust the number of coins bet but on the strategy maker I don’t see that option.
I tried doing it for a 6 coin bet by adjusting the payoffs. For example if 4 aces paid 1200 for 6 coins I would use 1000 for 5 coins but then when you get down to 3 of a kind or 2 pair or one pair I’m not sure how to adjust it for that.
I tried putting in decimal amounts but based on the return of the game I know it wasn’t correct.
Any help with this would be great.
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I see the problem - the strategy calculator is making the assumption that the bet is 1 credit.
The "obvious answer" is to just enter the numbers "as is", then divide the value shown as the return by the number of coins entered.
Since every hand's expected value is multiplied by the same factor, it shouldn't affect the strategy.
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If it accepts decimal values, then yes.
What bets change (and what bets don't) when you play 6 credits instead of 5?
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St fl pays 750
4 aces 1200
4, 2-4. 600
4. 5-k 400
FH. 50
Those are the changes from regular 8/5 bonus poker.
It’s the best available game at one casino that I go to.
Royal 4000
Straight Flush 750
Four Aces 1200
Four 2-4s 600
Four 5-Ks 400
Full House 50
Flush 25
Straight 20
Three of a Kind 15
Two Pair 10
Jacks or Better 5
Enter these numbers; this should give you the correct strategy.
Divide the expected return by 6 to get the actual ER.
When I do it, the returned value is 5.960720, so the actual expected return is 5.960720 / 6 = 0.993453.
Thank you very much. Greatly appreciated!Quote: ThatDonGuySo, in other words, the payouts for 6 coins are:
Royal 4000
Straight Flush 750
Four Aces 1200
Four 2-4s 600
Four 5-Ks 400
Full House 50
Flush 25
Straight 20
Three of a Kind 15
Two Pair 10
Jacks or Better 5
Enter these numbers; this should give you the correct strategy.
Divide the expected return by 6 to get the actual ER.
When I do it, the returned value is 5.960720, so the actual expected return is 5.960720 / 6 = 0.993453.
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