100xOdds
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March 30th, 2024 at 6:29:12 PM permalink
Triple play $1 stp 7/5 BP (98.25% return), $18/spin.

Lost $1000, only got 1900 pts @ $1 per pt.
1000/1900 is 48% return.
Wtf???

Is this outside the realm of being legit?

Edit:
Wait.. it's $2 per pt for VP.
So might be in the realm of possible, even typical?
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Mar 30, 2024
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DRich
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March 31st, 2024 at 5:26:28 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Triple play $1 stp 7/5 BP (98.25% return), $18/spin.

Lost $1000, only got 1900 pts @ $1 per pt.
1000/1900 is 48% return.
Wtf???

Is this outside the realm of being legit?

Edit:
Wait.. it's $2 per pt for VP.
So might be in the realm of possible, even typical?
link to original post



If it is Triple Play I would assume it is an IGT machine and therefore the odds of it being gaffed are very low. Probably just some bad luck. You only played about 500 games so obviously that is way too little to draw many conclusions from.
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100xOdds
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March 31st, 2024 at 6:05:06 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Quote: 100xOdds

Triple play $1 stp 7/5 BP (98.25% return), $18/spin.

Lost $1000, only got 1900 pts @ $1 per pt.
1000/1900 is 48% return.
Wtf???

Is this outside the realm of being legit?

Edit:
Wait.. it's $2 per pt for VP.
So might be in the realm of possible, even typical?
link to original post



If it is Triple Play I would assume it is an IGT machine and therefore the odds of it being gaffed are very low. Probably just some bad luck. You only played about 500 games so obviously that is way too little to draw many conclusions from.
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Thx .
Its the All Star cabinets. I guess igt?
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Mental
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March 31st, 2024 at 7:18:58 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Triple play $1 stp 7/5 BP (98.25% return), $18/spin.

Lost $1000, only got 1900 pts @ $1 per pt.
1000/1900 is 48% return.
Wtf???

Is this outside the realm of being legit?

Edit:
Wait.. it's $2 per pt for VP.
So might be in the realm of possible, even typical?
link to original post

That is not unlikely at all if you don't cash on any quads or decent multipliers.
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calwatch
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March 31st, 2024 at 8:04:09 PM permalink
At 200 spins and change if you aren't converting on multipliers, that is not unreasonable. How long were your multiplier droughts? Sometimes when I have a pen and a napkin handy I'll count out the multiplier gaps just to see how on target I am - yes, it is a form of gambler's fallacy but like charting numbers in roulette it is harmless and lets you more accurately determine if it is a real drought or if you are just not remembering the times you got multipliers back to back.
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April 1st, 2024 at 9:44:16 AM permalink
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At 200 spins and change if you aren't converting on multipliers, that is not unreasonable. How long were your multiplier droughts? Sometimes when I have a pen and a napkin handy I'll count out the multiplier gaps just to see how on target I am - yes, it is a form of gambler's fallacy but like charting numbers in roulette it is harmless and lets you more accurately determine if it is a real drought or if you are just not remembering the times you got multipliers back to back.
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i did chart it:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/38796-picking-stp-7-5-bp-98-25-over-9-6-ddb-99-in-this-scenario/#post919648

the avg time to get a multiplier after 146 hands was 1:15, which is the avg it takes to get a multiplier in stp, so it was reassuring.
But that charting was in another casino.

But you're probably right about converting on multipliers.
In that $1000 loss, i think i completely whiffed on multipliers a few times :(
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April 1st, 2024 at 9:54:33 AM permalink
Quote: Mental

Quote: 100xOdds

Triple play $1 stp 7/5 BP (98.25% return), $18/spin.

Lost $1000, only got 1900 pts @ $1 per pt.
1000/1900 is 48% return.
Wtf???

Is this outside the realm of being legit?

Edit:
Wait.. it's $2 per pt for VP.
So might be in the realm of possible, even typical?
link to original post

That is not unlikely at all if you don't cash on any quads or decent multipliers.
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In that $1000, i whiffed on getting quads on EVERY dealt trips, including trip aces twice.
But i did get a few regular quads when holding a pair. (no Aces or baby quads)

And i also whiffed on every 8x and 10x multiplier. :(

My addiction to STP is over.
It's eye opening at the roller coaster variance STP bp is (var = 33) vs regular BP (var = 20).
I've done $50k coin-in at JoB (also var=20) for 'diamond in day' at caesars and it wasnt as screen punching aggravating as stp bp.

I am amazed at how people can handle the variance of ddb (var = 44) much less 'ult x' ddb.
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April 3rd, 2024 at 3:20:04 PM permalink
Honestly enough people have posted incredible dealt hands or 12x won hands on reddit and youtube that any time I feel the need to play Ultimate X or multi-line games, I just go and look at those miracles and realize the odds are against me being on the winning end of it.
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