dahoss2002
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January 19th, 2023 at 10:13:56 AM permalink
I encountered an interesting paytable for super triple play deuces wild and do not have a clue to figure the payback and volatility. The following pay table is based on 6 coins wagered, the extra coin activates the boosted payouts.
Royal no deuce 4000
4 deuces 3000
Royal with deuces 200
Five of a kind 100
Straight Flush 90
4 of a kind 20
full house 20
flush 15
straight 10
3 of a kind 5
The Wizard's calculator does not include Deuces Wild on Super Triple Play. It has JOB, BP, DB, DDB, and a few others but not Deuces Wild on STP. Does anyone know the payback for this?
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January 19th, 2023 at 11:46:53 AM permalink
I am definitely not a Video Poker expert. But if I use the Wizard's calculator for Deuces Wild with the above paytable and adjust for the 6th coin (which is a fee for the bonus paytable), I get that that the payback is 0.942475833.

Again, I'm not an expert and I might be missing something. Presumably, a real VP expert will provide a more authoritative response.
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January 19th, 2023 at 12:54:29 PM permalink
My run matches Gordon's.

I notice that the "dirty royal" isn't listed, so assumed the (usual) 125/6.
If the Royal Flush with Deuce(s) pays 250, this goes up to 98.2% or so.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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January 19th, 2023 at 2:28:36 PM permalink
I edited my post. The "dirty" Royal pays 200/6.
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January 19th, 2023 at 3:03:35 PM permalink
Quote: dahoss2002

I edited my post. The "dirty" Royal pays 200/6.
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I get 96.56% (or so).

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/

Hopefully that's a nickel machine, and there are better paytables at higher denominations.

As I understand, that calculator isn't set for multiline variance.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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January 19th, 2023 at 3:10:48 PM permalink
Thanks. It is a quarter machine. That's pretty bad lol. I figured it wasn't good but thought it might be better than that.
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January 19th, 2023 at 7:54:00 PM permalink
Well, it is slightly better return percent than 7/5 JoB, while allowing you to lose a bit more per hour...

Best of luck out there.
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January 20th, 2023 at 3:31:10 AM permalink
Quote: dahoss2002

I encountered an interesting paytable for super triple play deuces wild and do not have a clue to figure the payback and volatility. The following pay table is based on 6 coins wagered, the extra coin activates the boosted payouts.
Royal no deuce 4000
4 deuces 3000
Royal with deuces 200
Five of a kind 100
Straight Flush 90
4 of a kind 20
full house 20
flush 15
straight 10
3 of a kind 5
The Wizard's calculator does not include Deuces Wild on Super Triple Play. It has JOB, BP, DB, DDB, and a few others but not Deuces Wild on STP. Does anyone know the payback for this?
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As noted by Dieter, the EV is 96.56589972%. You also asked for the volatility. The variance is 64.899..
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January 22nd, 2023 at 3:03:47 PM permalink
I have found a couple versions of super triple play as JOB or deuces. They are usually in the mid 98% range for the dollar denom. I have found the same pay tables at different casinos. They seem to all be similar based on the denom and/or if itís triple/five/ten play. I think the games come preloaded like that and the casino just picks if they want a high or low paying version for all games.

The deuces version pays 3000 for deuces instead of 1000 and 200 for a wild royal instead of the usual 125 or 100. I would think this may change the strategy somewhat. For instance would you still hold WW68 suited? The JOB version pays 500 for a 4 of a kind. I imagine strategy wouldnít change but Iím not an expert. The only hand I could think of that could potentially change is a 2 pair because of the increase pay for 4oak.
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January 22nd, 2023 at 3:13:20 PM permalink
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The JOB version pays 500 for a 4 of a kind. I imagine strategy wouldnít change but Iím not an expert. The only hand I could think of that could potentially change is a 2 pair because of the increase pay for 4oak.
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In JOB, you would still hold the 2 pair because it pays 2/1 for the pat hand and gives you a chance at a full house . I could see you breaking a 2 pair up in DB or DDB if you had a pair of aces or maybe even a pair of 2-4s depending on the pay table

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