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darkoz
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September 4th, 2019 at 10:45:09 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



the risk of someone grabbing their own free play after you invested 2,000 and other various pitfalls.



Thats a strange risk for you to list.

That would be the EXACT same risk you face BUYING someone's freeplay for $4000

Whats to stop them from changing their pin or reporting their freeplay stolen and having you arrested after you invested $4000?

The freeplay IS GOING TO BE ON THEIR PLAYERS CARD, correct?

If there is any chance of going to jail for using another persons players card as you seem to think, why would buying freeplay and using someone else players card be less exposure to that risk?

Or are you really full of horse manure on the whole thing after all?
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September 4th, 2019 at 12:44:38 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

LMAO

I am not the one missing the obvious

Buy more than one cow. Create a whole dairy farm!

Get it.

Have multiple players cards

Get it?

Yes, $5000 cap on freeplay, I agree.

Now collect 10, 20 , 50 players cards each with the ability to deliver to me $5000 freeplay

And why would I waste my time paying more for freeplay than I can earning it myself in that scenario



What if the casino is monitoring it and requires you to show ID before they put it on your account. Our casinos usually do that if it is over $500.
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September 4th, 2019 at 1:06:09 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

What if the casino is monitoring it and requires you to show ID before they put it on your account. Our casinos usually do that if it is over $500.



I dont go into it half-assed.

By the time I do an operation I usually know more about how every aspect of the casinos comps systems work than the actual employees.

So, no that wouldn't happen because I would have done tests already. Experiments with my own personal card to determine the casinos weaknesses.

If I determined that your casinos required ID for freeplay over $500 then I would do a lot more cards at $450!

How easy it is to circumvent a casinos confidence levels

Next theory!
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September 4th, 2019 at 1:32:46 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

What if the casino is monitoring it and requires you to show ID before they put it on your account. Our casinos usually do that if it is over $500.

The Tampa casino made me show my photo ID before they put the free play in my account. In order to sell it to someone, they would have had to use my card and pin to play.
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September 4th, 2019 at 2:06:04 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I dont go into it half-assed.

By the time I do an operation I usually know more about how every aspect of the casinos comps systems work than the actual employees.

So, no that wouldn't happen because I would have done tests already. Experiments with my own personal card to determine the casinos weaknesses.

If I determined that your casinos required ID for freeplay over $500 then I would do a lot more cards at $450!

How easy it is to circumvent a casinos confidence levels

Next theory!



Id maybe not go into specific methods and/or give information as to what may or may not be worth your time?

Also, youd be surprised how low some places go before most offers start needing ID. I wouldnt want to give anyone ideas.
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September 4th, 2019 at 2:08:55 PM permalink
Hey, darkoz.

Is trying to prove who has the largest genitalia on here really worth you, and you baiting other people, into killing all of your long-term prospects by having this conversation?

SMH.
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September 4th, 2019 at 2:14:06 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Hey, darkoz.

Is trying to prove who has the largest genitalia on here really worth you, and you baiting other people, into killing all of your long-term prospects by having this conversation?

SMH.



This thread has taken on the feel of any of the political threads that have been banished from this forum. It seems Dark and his opponents are saying the same thing over and over, repeatedly, reiteratively, without change, the same thing! Can we agree that Dark will not convince Axel that Dark is right, and Axel will not convince Dark that Axel is right? Or do we have to wait 200 more posts to figure that out?
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September 4th, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

This thread has taken on the feel of any of the political threads that have been banished from this forum. It seems Dark and his opponents are saying the same thing over and over, repeatedly, reiteratively, without change, the same thing! Can we agree that Dark will not convince Axel that Dark is right, and Axel will not convince Dark that Axel is right? Or do we have to wait 200 more posts to figure that out?



I say ban them all.
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September 4th, 2019 at 3:02:36 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Hey, darkoz.

Is trying to prove who has the largest genitalia on here really worth you, and you baiting other people, into killing all of your long-term prospects by having this conversation?

SMH.



Not killing mine.

I can tough it out. Im not the one who fears.

But since you have asked nicely.

Move along. Nothing to see here, folks. All is well!

#Fakeinfo

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September 4th, 2019 at 4:06:24 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Hey, darkoz.

Is trying to prove who has the largest genitalia on here really worth you, and you baiting other people, into killing all of your long-term prospects by having this conversation?

SMH.


Can you just ban Darkoz for trolling?
darkoz
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September 4th, 2019 at 4:20:01 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Can you just ban Darkoz for trolling?



Are you calling me a troll?

For discussion of gambling and specifically freeplay use as this thread is about?

Thats going to be the new definition of trolling on here?
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September 4th, 2019 at 4:47:31 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Are you calling me a troll?

For discussion of gambling and specifically freeplay use as this thread is about?

Thats going to be the new definition of trolling on here?



I believe he called you a toller, not a troll.

A Toller, One who is so intelligent they ride to bus to avoid turnpike tolls.

Its a complimentary term used to describe those who are so smart most could never figure out the things they do to make money APing.
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September 4th, 2019 at 4:51:40 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

I believe he called you a toller, not a troll.

A Toller, One who is so intelligent they ride to bus to avoid turnpike tolls.

Its a complimentary term used to describe those who are so smart most could never figure out the things they do to make money APing.



I actually did lol physically with that one

Thx

EDIT: I just added a signature line for the first time thanks to your post
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September 4th, 2019 at 5:06:09 PM permalink
That would make for a catchy tombstone. Of course you have to be delivered to the grave by bus.

If we quote that in the future should we give credit to DarkOz of BusBoy?
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September 4th, 2019 at 5:50:02 PM permalink
My ex-husband is a bus nut. Everything to do with buses. One of his bus-crazy friends had himself buried in one. No idea what the epitaph is, though.
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September 4th, 2019 at 6:00:14 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

My ex-husband is a bus nut. Everything to do with buses. One of his bus-crazy friends had himself buried in one. No idea what the epitaph is, though.



Met train enthusiast, and other kinds of transportation enthusiast. Never bus though. My favorite enthusiast was a cereal box enthusiast though.
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September 4th, 2019 at 6:03:40 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Met train enthusiast, and other kinds of transportation enthusiast. Never bus though. My favorite enthusiast was a cereal box enthusiast though.



They have conventions. RV conversion clubs. Specialty photographers. Clubs where they exchange pictures. Antiques still running are especially prized.
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September 4th, 2019 at 6:04:03 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

. No idea what the epitaph is, though.



"Last stop on the route"
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September 4th, 2019 at 6:16:21 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

"Last stop on the route"



DarkOz's would be easy

"It is really as simple as thus,
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September 4th, 2019 at 7:05:43 PM permalink
I am not a bus nut, train nut, plane nut.

They are just a means to travel. I dont do any collecting or paraphernalia stuff.

Its not really a big deal.

But there seem to be a lot of car nuts on here. And they think they are normal lol
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September 5th, 2019 at 9:17:52 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I am not a bus nut, train nut, plane nut.

They are just a means to travel. I dont do any collecting or paraphernalia stuff.

Its not really a big deal.

But there seem to be a lot of car nuts on here. And they think they are normal lol



I would classify myself as an airplane enthusiast.
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darkoz
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September 5th, 2019 at 11:01:39 AM permalink
This thread has gotten real boring
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September 5th, 2019 at 11:04:42 AM permalink
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This thread has gotten real boring



It had a good run
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September 5th, 2019 at 11:25:58 AM permalink
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It had a good run



Until the Fear Police came out
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September 5th, 2019 at 7:44:54 PM permalink
Why don't you have infinite money if you can turn 2k into 5k?

I do similar plays and there are several answers. I impose a cap on how much I do based on a subjective assessment of how likely heat is at different levels of accounts.

Of course the dumb answer is that the casino doesn't have infinite money to give you. If you hurt them bad enough, they will stop you.

If there is some play in a casino that doesn't involve any heat or low heat, then that play is a good idea regardless of whether its the most efficient play in your arsenal.

So the question of which one is better comes down to a subjective assessment of how much heat each one will generate on the margin.
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September 5th, 2019 at 7:50:25 PM permalink
The math is really interesting. Every additional card you do decreases the value of all the other cards you have done and all future cards you will do by decreasing the probability that those cards run the course. The 2k to 5k logic only applies to the first card. At some point its 2k into less than 2k because you've done too many.
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September 5th, 2019 at 7:56:06 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

This thread has gotten real boring

I think you meant embarrassing. 🤣🤣🤣
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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