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September 2nd, 2019 at 7:46:39 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Where did I say paying 99.5% of FP was great value? I said, under the right circumstance I would buy it for that price. Obviously, thats not a deal I would be seeking out. Most AP's and many non AP's know what I'm talking about in undstanding there's +EV there. It doesn't surprise me that you don't.

Let me give you an example. Recently there were some full pay $2 and 1 5 play duces wild at the DTG. They clock in at little over 100.7 %. Assuming you were there playing anyways or wanted to. If you were to buy a large amounts of free play from someone for 99.5% of face value, you would increase your hourly significantly.

The fact that you wouldn't buy free play for more than 50% is very telling. That will make a great chapter in your book.

51%+ would be a fantastic deal on just about any slot machine in the United States. Obviously 99.5% would only be +EV rare circumstances.

p.s. I would name that book chapter for you, however, I'm sure it would get me suspended.




wait so DO wont pay 50% but will ride the bus for $40 in free play?
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darkoz
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September 2nd, 2019 at 8:05:30 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Where did I say paying 99.5% of FP was great value? I said, under the right circumstance I would buy it for that price. Obviously, thats not a deal I would be seeking out. Most AP's and many non AP's know what I'm talking about in undstanding there's +EV there. It doesn't surprise me that you don't.

Let me give you an example. Recently there were some full pay $2 and 1 5 play duces wild at the DTG. They clock in at little over 100.7 %. Assuming you were there playing anyways or wanted to. If you were to buy a large amounts of free play from someone for 99.5% of face value, you would increase your hourly significantly.

The fact that you wouldn't buy free play for more than 50% is very telling. That will make a great chapter in your book.

51%+ would be a fantastic deal on just about any slot machine in the United States. Obviously 99.5% would only be +EV rare circumstances.

p.s. I would name that book chapter for you, however, I'm sure it would get me suspended.



Its telling to me that you consider 1 or 2% worth your time. It explains why you need to drive all over the country to make a living.

Me, I am looking for the big profits.

50% face value of freeplay is all I am willing to pay.

Naturally if someone want to take their chance on making more than 50% thats on them. But I am not traveling all over and doing the work (and to me its work not fun) for a 1% advantage

I thought you were bigger than that smidgen play?
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September 2nd, 2019 at 8:45:25 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Its telling to me that you consider 1 or 2% worth your time. It explains why you need to drive all over the country to make a living.

Me, I am looking for the big profits.

50% face value of freeplay is all I am willing to pay.

Naturally if someone want to take their chance on making more than 50% thats on them. But I am not traveling all over and doing the work (and to me its work not fun) for a 1% advantage

I thought you were bigger than that smidgen play?



And here he goes again hoping someone will explain something to him that he does not understand.
darkoz
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September 2nd, 2019 at 9:01:06 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

And here he goes again hoping someone will explain something to him that he does not understand.



Lol

Stop fantasizing about me.

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September 2nd, 2019 at 9:37:48 PM permalink
I've lost track of who's trolling and who isn't.
AxelWolf
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:00:03 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Its telling to me that you consider 1 or 2% worth your time. It explains why you need to drive all over the country to make a living.

Me, I am looking for the big profits.

50% face value of freeplay is all I am willing to pay.

Naturally if someone want to take their chance on making more than 50% thats on them. But I am not traveling all over and doing the work (and to me its work not fun) for a 1% advantage

I thought you were bigger than that smidgen play?

2% on a 1$ multi line VP is worth $3,000 to $10,000 a day not including anything else that might generate.
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darkoz
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:09:07 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

2% on a 1$ multi line VP is worth $3,000 to $10,000 a day not including anything else that might generate.



We are talking about freeplay per the OP

So you are telling me if you were offered $500 in freeplay you would pay $499.50 for it.

And then turn that into $3000 - $10,000 PROFIT ABOVE WHAT U PAID?

I am referring to only cycling it once thru. Not doing $3,000 of coin in after u finish the freeplay.

EDIT: and as I pointed out I dont have that type of opportunity on the East Coast. If you find a VP machine that even accepts freeplay on this side of the country I have yet to see any machines over 100%
Last edited by: darkoz on Sep 2, 2019
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ChumpChange
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:51:24 PM permalink
So you get a casino mailer with weekly $500 free plays on them. How did you get to that level, and how do you play the free plays? Maybe they were match plays for Blackjack or craps, I didn't get a good look at the mailer.
michael99000
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:05:48 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

We are talking about freeplay per the OP

So you are telling me if you were offered $500 in freeplay you would pay $499.50 for it.

And then turn that into $3000 - $10,000 PROFIT ABOVE WHAT U PAID?

I am referring to only cycling it once thru. Not doing $3,000 of coin in after u finish the freeplay.

EDIT: and as I pointed out I dont have that type of opportunity on the East Coast. If you find a VP machine that even accepts freeplay on this side of the country I have yet to see any machines over 100%



You can use Freeplay on VP at Wind Creek in PA
darkoz
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September 3rd, 2019 at 12:22:54 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

You can use Freeplay on VP at Wind Creek in PA



Yeah, formerly the Sands.

Where bus riders sell their $45 freeplay for $40.

I haven't been there in years but that is in line with my argument that the freeplay isnt worth more than 50% except where VP is available for freeplay
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