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Wizard
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May 25th, 2018 at 5:56:21 PM permalink
A couple of people have asked me about a new version of Dream Card that has a Dream Card probability of only 16%. It does have a pumped-up pay table but my video poker analyzer still comes back with a return of only 77%, assuming the conventional Dream Card rules. It is only available in triple-play mode and I know of only the deuces pay table below. I have no idea what to title this game to differentiate it from conventional Dream Card. One unit can be found in the high limit room of the Paris. I think another has been seen at the South Point somewhere.

What is going on is that if the feature is enabled, the game will deal four random cards from three separate decks behind the scenes. It will then give each a dream card, by the conventional process of picking the best card out of the 48 left. The hand with the greatest expected value of the three is then displayed to the player. In other words, the player is starting with a premium starting hand.

This would be quite a challenge to analyze so forgive me if I hold off for now. Hopefully the game will get titled and offered at VideoPoker.com. They have been kind enough to disclose pay tables and returns for their new games lately (I think partially to keep me from nagging them for the same information). Let me make clear the return must be significantly higher than 77% because the starting hand is the best one of three hands.

The question for the poll is would you play this "Dream Card version 2"?



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May 25th, 2018 at 5:59:19 PM permalink
At 77% for a VP game, I missed the poll option for, "are you kidding me?" And settled for No.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 25th, 2018 at 6:02:32 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

At 77% for a VP game, I missed the poll option for, "are you kidding me?" And settled for No.



I didn't word my post very well. I just edited it to say the 77% would be true if the bottom hand were four random cards out of 52. As I tried badly to explain, it is the best of three random hands dealt behind the scenes.
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May 25th, 2018 at 6:05:49 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I didn't word my post very well. I just edited it to say the 77% would be true if the bottom hand were four random cards out of 52. As I tried badly to explain, it is the best of three random hands dealt behind the scenes.



Ah, ok. Thanks.

Still No.

And I like Dream Card. But not taken with it appearing even less than it already does.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 25th, 2018 at 9:22:22 PM permalink
Palms has one. It’s a real beauty.

17.3% chance to activate the feature. Paytable is bonus poker. From the top:

4000
250
400
200
125
45
35
25
20 (yes, 3k is 4-for-1)
10
5

Return is 76.xx%. It goes from 25c 3-play up to $5 10-play. Yikes!
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May 26th, 2018 at 6:38:58 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

As I tried badly to explain, it is the best of three random hands dealt behind the scenes.

is this EVERY time or just when you get the Dreamcard?

if every time, is there a 10play option??

also, like any other gimmick game, I would only play it if it's 99%+ return.
so awaiting calcs.
tapping fingers...
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May 26th, 2018 at 10:34:25 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

is this EVERY time or just when you get the Dreamcard?



Only when you get the DreamCard.

Quote:

so awaiting calcs.
tapping fingers...



Please be patient on that. If any of the elite math wizards on the site would care to take a crack at it, by all means, have at it. I'm running rather busy at the moment, but will hopefully have time in early June.
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May 26th, 2018 at 3:52:01 PM permalink
Ohhhhhhhhhh okay. I didn’t see that before, where there are 3 hands analyzed when the feature is activated. I thought it was just like normal DC. Whew!


Unfortunately I have no clue on where I’d start in trying to analyze that. :(
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