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October 16th, 2017 at 4:16:53 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo


I would have the multiplier card appear once every 11 hands with a total multiplier average / extra card average of x 11, in combinations of 2 - 5x.

2x2 = 4
2x3 = 6 (2)
2x4 = 8 (2)
2x5 = 10 (2)
3x3 = 9
3x4 = 12 (2)
3x5 = 15 (2)
4x4 = 16 (1)
4x5 = 20 (2)
5x5 = 25
=176 / 16 = 11.

I would not touch the pay tables except to make it stingy.



I'd be interested to find out how to make this work. I really like the idea of higher risk - higher reward which is what I think you are referring to.
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October 16th, 2017 at 4:26:49 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

RealizeGaming,

1.) Unfortunately, I don't believe that paytable would be approved by Gaming because it has a lower return to player (greater house edge) than does 9/6 Jacks Straight up.
A paytable that would give you more wiggle room would be 9/5 Jacks, then you might be able to adjust it on the multiplier end. Alternatively, I suppose you could always incorporate some sort of Royal Flush bonus to make up the difference.



I'm sure we have some room to play with the RTP. We also did an 8-5 Jacks or Better, but I don't remember the RTP right off the top of my head.


Quote: Mission146

2.) I figured there would have to be some mechanism like 50 + 50 bet, though, looks like that happened.



I always believed we would have to do a "double wager" format in order to get the math anywhere close to being acceptable. A number of years ago I talked to a few gaming companies and they kind of laughed at me for suggesting that players would be willing to wager more than the standard 5 coin max. Maybe it might be time for a "triple wager" to make it a very interesting game.

Quote: Mission146

3.) I would still recommend only giving it a random chance of coming up on certain holds, or even making it guaranteed, but this is at least the beginning of a viable game.



That may be something to look into and I appreciate the suggestion. Thank you for all your feedback Mission!
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October 16th, 2017 at 4:28:05 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

RealizeGaming,

1.) Unfortunately, I don't believe that paytable would be approved by Gaming because it has a lower return to player (greater house edge) than does 9/6 Jacks Straight up.

A paytable that would give you more wiggle room would be 9/5 Jacks, then you might be able to adjust it on the multiplier end. Alternatively, I suppose you could always incorporate some sort of Royal Flush bonus to make up the difference.

2.) I figured there would have to be some mechanism like 50 + 50 bet, though, looks like that happened.

3.) I would still recommend only giving it a random chance of coming up on certain holds, or even making it guaranteed, but this is at least the beginning of a viable game.



Higher multipliers, as Romes said below your post , would be a good and exciting way to get the HE back up where it needs to be. Imo, the best way. When RG posted the 96.x%, it changed my mind about wanting to play the game.

So, yeah, let's see it get viable.
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October 16th, 2017 at 4:38:15 PM permalink
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I like the game, though I wish the multipliers were a touch bigger. Nothing like getting a 10x or 12x on ultimate and hitting a decent hand =P.



Exactly my thoughts Romes. I think if we could offer higher multipliers, players may be more willing to forgive the MD card not coming up as often. To show the game, we wanted to showcase the MD card so we opted to have it appear more often trying to make a safer game.

I think we may have to explore a Double Double Bonus Poker or Deuces Wild. Jacks or Better can be such a slow (somewhat boring) game.

I would also like to see the game played in the multi-hand format (three or five hands). When using this type of format, you could also limit the MD card and offer higher rewards. It would also be exciting to have more than one hand draw an MD card.

We did pitch the idea of incorporating the MD game with Ultimate X and they liked the idea, but we haven't explored it any further.
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October 16th, 2017 at 6:58:01 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Higher multipliers, as Romes said below your post , would be a good and exciting way to get the HE back up where it needs to be. Imo, the best way. When RG posted the 96.x%, it changed my mind about wanting to play the game.

So, yeah, let's see it get viable.



We are looking at ways to get more multipliers into the game and we are going to try a $50 + $100 format. So in terms of how it would look to most vp players it would require a 5 coin wager plus an extra 10 for the MD cards and multipliers. It will allow us to get some higher multipliers into the game and allow the +4, +5 to show up more often. We will run some tests to see how it looks and we will return with an update.

My feeling is that vp players are going to go crazy over the higher required wager, but I think after they see the game and get chance to play it, they will not mind at all. If you look at the progression, Super Times Pay started with the extra coin and over the years Ultimate X came along requiring double the wager. Maybe the next progression is triple the wager!
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October 17th, 2017 at 5:03:24 PM permalink
We updated the game once again!

We are now doing a $50 + $100 wager for the game and in turn we are able to offer a MD card one out of four times per open card position and the game returns 99.54%.

http://realizegamingllc.com/dev/mdPoker99/





*Let me know what you think about the update, as I'd be very interested in what everyone thinks. We will know work on ways to appeal to the high risk - high reward group by using higher multipliers.
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October 20th, 2017 at 3:44:30 PM permalink
We have yet another update for the game. This time we tried to focus on higher multipliers attached to the MD card. We were able to do this and still managed a very good RTP.



Here is an example of the game using the higher multiplier.



You can play any of the current three versions of MultiDraw using the bottom links. Please feel free to post any winning pictures or leave feedback about the game.

version 1: http://realizegamingllc.com/demo/mdPoker/

version 2: http://realizegamingllc.com/demo/mdPoker99

version 3: http://realizegamingllc.com/demo/mdPoker10x
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June 2nd, 2020 at 10:12:14 AM permalink
I was playing around with some of our demos in order to get screenshots of decent wins and I was able to get a royal flush. Always nice to see those type of wins!

Demo: https://www.realizegamingllc.com/demo/mdDDB2/

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June 2nd, 2020 at 5:35:36 PM permalink
I've been playing the demo and I enjoyed playing this game. I'm not a big VP player, but I would look for this one.

1. Is this placed in live casinos (pandemic notwithstanding)? In internet casinos?

2. If I have 4 cards to a straight and only draw 1 card, is my chance of drawing a multidraw card lower than when I draw multiple cards?
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June 2nd, 2020 at 7:55:54 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

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2. If I have 4 cards to a straight and only draw 1 card, is my chance of drawing a multidraw card lower than when I draw multiple cards?


Yes it is lower, I think the chance of the "multi-draw" card is 25% for each card that is drawn (so in your example it has a 25% chance of being drawn, and the average is about 67%***)

***: click on the link here >>> https://www.realizegamingllc.com/demo/mdDDB2/ >>> and then click the "i" button in the top left corner.

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