100xOdds
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June 5th, 2017 at 9:54:33 PM permalink
Double Joker ($2100 Progressive):
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/a-1-b-61-c-1-d-0-d-1-d-2-d-3-d-4-d-5-d-8-d-25-d-50-d-100-d-1680/

Hand = wild 5d 7d Td Js (d= diamond, s= spade)

- Strategy maker says pick 4 to the flush. (Link above)
- Wiz's Hand Analyzer says 'wild 57' is better with 1.4 ev while 'wild 57T' (4 to flush) = 1.27 ev (cant link)

Which is correct?
Why is there a Discrepancy?
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Ibeatyouraces
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June 5th, 2017 at 10:02:17 PM permalink
Scroll down to the basic strategy exceptions.

That game looks like it would be a nightmare learn!
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June 5th, 2017 at 11:34:17 PM permalink
The 5-7-wild gives you many opportunities to win the SF at 25 including Wild + 3D/4D/6D/8D/9D, 3D+4D/6D, 4D + 6D/8D, 6D + 8D/9D, 8D + 9D. And lots of straights, flushes and 3 of a K and even 4 of a K.

The 4 to a flush gives you an opportunity only for 3 of a K or Flush.

Just my observation.
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100xOdds
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June 6th, 2017 at 7:22:14 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Scroll down to the basic strategy exceptions.

That game looks like it would be a nightmare learn!


there's nothing in 'basic strategy exceptions' that says pick a suited one gapper with wild over a wild '4 to a flush'
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June 6th, 2017 at 7:28:02 AM permalink
n/m..
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June 6th, 2017 at 8:28:51 AM permalink
Remember, you're playing with a 54 card deck. Odds will be completely different than a 52 card deck
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June 6th, 2017 at 10:56:36 AM permalink
The basic strategy does not list 5-7-T as a keeper. It lists 4 to a flush but not that specific combination. The Straight Flush W-5-7 has the higher rank therefore.
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June 6th, 2017 at 12:49:37 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

The basic strategy does not list 5-7-T as a keeper. It lists 4 to a flush but not that specific combination. The Straight Flush W-5-7 has the higher rank therefore.


ahh.. but w-5-7 does NOT have a higher rank that wild 4 flush, based on Wiz's strategy maker. (see link in OP)

do you now see the discrepancy between the strategy maker and hand analyzer?
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June 6th, 2017 at 12:55:59 PM permalink
The hand analyzer gives you the OPTIMAL strategy. The strategy maker is only BASIC strategy.

Change the other cards (not the W57) around and you'll see different results.
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June 6th, 2017 at 2:24:44 PM permalink
The Wild 4 flush and cards in that combination are not listed meaning that you ignore the row as the card combination of the flush is not in the row.
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