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StarCrusher
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February 11th, 2016 at 11:11:26 AM permalink
NOTE: This thread pertains only to Las Vegas

I am headed back to Vegas after not being there for over 13 months, hoping that my low-level "tourist" play has been reset; I now have the bankroll to give each property a large day of play that will be mainly VP-driven.

However, I see that I still have small offers from the following casinos, which worries me because I do not want a bunch of small trips averaged into my daily average:

--Boyd properties (Sam's Town in particular, although Joker's Wild in Henderson also sends me stuff still)
--Silver Sevens
--El Cortez
--Four Queens
--SLS

Are these simply "teaser" offers that remain on my account enticing me to come back? I know many casinos on the East coast will only look at play over the past year to generate offers and will consider an account "inactive" without any play at all in a 12-month period.

But I also do not want to log a $50k coin in day to see my offers go up from $10 to $20. Thank you!
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February 11th, 2016 at 3:36:01 PM permalink
I'm not familiar with Vegas but when going to a casino, tell them you need a new players card and ask them if your account is inactive. That will usually give you some idea. Just laugh about it and say, "man, I haven't been here so long I'm surprised my account isn't inactive" or something like that.
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StarCrusher
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February 11th, 2016 at 3:49:53 PM permalink
I will not likely be that inconspicuous, but I would hope that those days of play, even if they do count, will "roll off" after a certain period of time passes.
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February 12th, 2016 at 3:34:48 AM permalink
It will depend almost entirely on the casino.

You can certainly ask a boothling about the evaluation period; about the worst they can say is "Sorry, we can't discuss how that's calculated".
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February 12th, 2016 at 5:05:35 AM permalink
Quote: StarCrusher

NOTE: This thread pertains only to Las Vegas

I am headed back to Vegas after not being there for over 13 months, hoping that my low-level "tourist" play has been reset; I now have the bankroll to give each property a large day of play that will be mainly VP-driven.

However, I see that I still have small offers from the following casinos, which worries me because I do not want a bunch of small trips averaged into my daily average:

--Boyd properties (Sam's Town in particular, although Joker's Wild in Henderson also sends me stuff still)
--Silver Sevens
--El Cortez
--Four Queens
--SLS

Are these simply "teaser" offers that remain on my account enticing me to come back? I know many casinos on the East coast will only look at play over the past year to generate offers and will consider an account "inactive" without any play at all in a 12-month period.

But I also do not want to log a $50k coin in day to see my offers go up from $10 to $20. Thank you!



If you're planning on putting in 50k coin in at multiple locations, I wouldn't recommend doing at any of them locations again (with the exception of SLS) Why not try all new places and see what you get? Certainly that's enough coin in to generate some good offers.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
mcallister3200
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February 12th, 2016 at 6:41:56 AM permalink
Yeah don't put more than 12-15k at any of those to restart IMO, 8k might do it.

Probably zero at sls, pretty decent chance (maybe just wishful thinking, I really hate that place) that sinkhole monkey fest will be closed by the time you come back if you only visit once a year.
StarCrusher
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February 12th, 2016 at 11:27:24 AM permalink
Yeah, I know that my coin in can generate decent offers, but I know the casinos around here will just wipe your slate clean after a certain period of inactivity...and 4Q and Boyd I am visiting, regardless due to having break even games. (I know the free play in comparison is rather "meh"...although Sam's is not bad fwiw)

For example, my station offers are completely wiped. My Boyd offers were $15 per week at my home property (Sam's) plus 3 free nights. Now, they are discounted rooms with one $15 every 2 months simply due to inactivity.

Honestly, I started this topic mainly to temper my expectations. It would suck to put in a 50k day only to have it averaged over 15 days.
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February 12th, 2016 at 3:48:02 PM permalink
FWIW, the best follow-up offers I've gotten are from Cosmo, followed by The Palms, both of which I joined in the last couple of years. Cosmo is under new management, however, and have revamped their program, though mostly positive for slots and neg for table games, so it's still a choice for you. If you start new, I would recommend those two in that order. I don't think either one is allied with any non-Vegas properties, though, so if you're looking for that, CET might be your best option.
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February 12th, 2016 at 7:57:12 PM permalink
Every individual casino that is not explicitly linked with another is different -- even casinos within the same chain (i.e.: CET). I believe strip CET properties behave the same way, though, since they are their offers are the same for all properties on the strip (i.e.: playing at Caesars won't be any different than PH, all things being equal). Another example is BOYD. Orleans, Sam's Town, Gold Coast, and I think Suncoast are all linked. Downtown BOYD are the same way (I've heard, I don't play down there). Offers will be available at all properties within the link/chain. PS: El Dorado & Jokers Wild are indeed owned by Boyd, but do not use the regular BConnected players card. Their system is called "Royal Rewards" (or Prime Rewards? Or something stupid like that).

Anyway, some properties look at different things and your offers are based differently. Some places only care about coin in. Others are theo based. Others are loss based. Most look at a combination, but primarily look at theo. Sometimes it's based on average daily figures (i.e.: ADT), while others are rolling figures (ALL play in X period). Some look back 3 months, 6 months, 1-2 years, or lifetime. Some look at a combination of each (CET does this). Some only care about last 6 months (Ellis Island).

And then there are some REALLY F***ing confusing properties (not giving names), that I and others really cannot figure out what the heck is going on (although we have a good idea, but nothing can be pin-pointed).
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