VP stops at 3 times bet?
December 31st, 2015 at 1:33:07 PM
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So I just found a JoB machine that has the 9/6 payline but stops at 3 times the bet as opposed to 5 times the bet (it's a $100 machine) and if I hit a Royal Flush it pays 2400. Is this just as fair as playing at a 5 times machine and winning 4000?
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:36:55 PM
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Yes, exactly the same just less taxable jackpots because of the lower bet.
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:40:34 PM
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Quote: DRichYes, exactly the same just less taxable jackpots because of the lower bet.
Thank you
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:40:40 PM
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Yes, same thing (EV wise).
December 31st, 2015 at 1:57:17 PM
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If you are playing the 100 machine - I am in the wrong business- minimum bankroll you could even think about playing that with is like 100k
Is there a progressive or something on it or some reason you were thinking of playing it?
Is there a progressive or something on it or some reason you were thinking of playing it?
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December 31st, 2015 at 3:39:50 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingIf you are playing the 100 machine - I am in the wrong business- minimum bankroll you could even think about playing that with is like 100k
Is there a progressive or something on it or some reason you were thinking of playing it?
I said same thing in her other thread. She says she likes to play high limit but only play 100 hands.
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December 31st, 2015 at 3:44:23 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingIf you are playing the 100 machine - I am in the wrong business- minimum bankroll you could even think about playing that with is like 100k
Wrong. The minimum bankroll required is $100. Or $300 if you want to play with a full pay table.
December 31st, 2015 at 3:58:30 PM
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I usually play up to 100 hands. When I just played at this machine I played 42 hands which was about the equivalent of playing 100 $125 hands which is what I'm used to doing.
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December 31st, 2015 at 6:19:49 PM
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Make sure you post a photo of the royal here when you hit it.
100% risk of ruin
December 31st, 2015 at 6:43:58 PM
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Quote: RogerKintMake sure you post a photo of the royal here when you hit it.
I surely will! A woman came up to me and said she was just dealt a Royal on a $1 machine and won $12,000. Literally dealt it and didn't have to hold anything, she said the machine went off.
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December 31st, 2015 at 6:46:05 PM
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She prolly was lying unless it was a 3 line machine 12k would be a huge overlay progressive
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December 31st, 2015 at 7:17:40 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingShe prolly was lying unless it was a 3 line machine 12k would be a huge overlay progressive
It could have been a one line $1 Super Times with a 3x multiplier. It also could have been a single line $3 denom game.
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December 31st, 2015 at 7:30:09 PM
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Does 3 dollar denom exist I have never ever seen it
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:13:08 PM
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Triple play people. Quite a common machine.
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:21:02 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesTriple play people. Quite a common machine.
Probably a 60 coin bet on a $0.25 single line machine.
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:21:38 PM
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Hot blonde- I'd you are playing that machine- aww they comping you the way they should be?
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:26:26 PM
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Weird - who plays 60 coin. In essence that's not a dollar machine that's like says I played a 1200 coin machine single line in quarters
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:44:06 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingWeird - who plays 60 coin. In essence that's not a dollar machine that's like says I played a 1200 coin machine single line in quarters
Most poker games have a 100 coin max bet limitation.
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January 1st, 2016 at 12:57:24 AM
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Probably played a $48 denom machine for 1 credit. What's so hard to believe, wizardofnothing, never seen these denoms or what? Very common.
January 1st, 2016 at 2:10:36 AM
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Most of this last page is gold.
January 1st, 2016 at 4:18:36 PM
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Here's a pic of said machine.. pulled off of the internet.
January 1st, 2016 at 5:25:03 PM
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Sadly that paytable hasn't been available since that hit. I'm pretty sure that was the hit that got him expelled from Caesars.
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January 1st, 2016 at 6:53:31 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingHot blonde- I'd you are playing that machine- aww they comping you the way they should be?
Yes, everything was taken care of: room, NYE party, Mr. Chow, lunches, hair appointment, Britney Spears show.
Quote: rsactuaryHere's a pic of said machine.. pulled off of the internet.
Damn! That's what I was trying to get when I was playing the $100 times 3 machine.
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January 1st, 2016 at 9:56:05 PM
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Quote: DRichSadly that paytable hasn't been available since that hit. I'm pretty sure that was the hit that got him expelled from Caesars.
Yeah and he was banned from the WSOP for awhile over this too. They let him back into that though at least.
A current example of that 3 coin setup is at the 32 Degree Bar at M Resort for Spin Poker. 8/6 Bonus Deluxe (98.49%) is the best choice for quarters there.
I think bally's high limit room had that setup on their $100 units last I looked.
January 2nd, 2016 at 4:11:07 AM
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A bunch of places offer 3-coin $100 VP. In Nevada I've seen it almost as often, maybe more often, than 5-coin $100 VP.
I wish more places offered flexibility in how much you can bet per hand. Several casinos in Reno let you bet 1-25 coins per hand, with full pay at 5+ coins. It's very nice to be able to bet 10-coin $2 or 23-coin $1 instead of 5-coin $5, so quads is $1000 or $1150 instead of $1250 and I'm not waiting for hand pays all the time. Having to choose between 5-coin $2 and 5-coin $5 is just dumb. There are other times when I've wanted to play $10 deuces, but I don't want to wait for hand pays on every wild royal, so I play $5 instead... if they let me play 9-coin $5, the wild royal is $1125 and everyone's happy.
I wish more places offered flexibility in how much you can bet per hand. Several casinos in Reno let you bet 1-25 coins per hand, with full pay at 5+ coins. It's very nice to be able to bet 10-coin $2 or 23-coin $1 instead of 5-coin $5, so quads is $1000 or $1150 instead of $1250 and I'm not waiting for hand pays all the time. Having to choose between 5-coin $2 and 5-coin $5 is just dumb. There are other times when I've wanted to play $10 deuces, but I don't want to wait for hand pays on every wild royal, so I play $5 instead... if they let me play 9-coin $5, the wild royal is $1125 and everyone's happy.
January 2nd, 2016 at 8:25:15 AM
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Quote: fivespotA bunch of places offer 3-coin $100 VP. In Nevada I've seen it almost as often, maybe more often, than 5-coin $100 VP.
I wish more places offered flexibility in how much you can bet per hand. Several casinos in Reno let you bet 1-25 coins per hand, with full pay at 5+ coins. It's very nice to be able to bet 10-coin $2 or 23-coin $1 instead of 5-coin $5, so quads is $1000 or $1150 instead of $1250 and I'm not waiting for hand pays all the time. Having to choose between 5-coin $2 and 5-coin $5 is just dumb. There are other times when I've wanted to play $10 deuces, but I don't want to wait for hand pays on every wild royal, so I play $5 instead... if they let me play 9-coin $5, the wild royal is $1125 and everyone's happy.
That is why I like to play 50 & 100 play machines. On a $1 9/6 JOB you can play 26 hands and not get a W2G unless dealt 4k or better. The dealt full house pays $1170.
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January 2nd, 2016 at 10:21:04 PM
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Quote: rsactuaryHere's a pic of said machine.. pulled off of the internet.
that player blogged both that weekend of wins, and the follow-up from CET. I found them worth the read, though it's from 2007:
http://www.liontales.com/2007/04/lucky-me.html
http://www.liontales.com/2007/06/fall-of-roman-empire.html
Quote: Ken Smith of BJinfo...Richard Brodie is a high-stakes player, and god knows he can afford it. As one of the original developers of the software now known as Microsoft Word, he’s got plenty of cash to spend however he would like. But, as you might guess, he’s no dummy. He knows when he has the best of it in the casino. He’s a talented poker player, and he also plays a lot of video poker, at limits that most of us can barely imagine.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:13:56 AM
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In that 2nd link he says he was 86d, but in 2013 he posts that he was in the money at wsop. Did they let him back in?
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January 3rd, 2016 at 5:48:52 AM
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Yes I believe they did let him back in.I think because he was such a high profile person Harrahs didn't want the bad publicity.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 6:01:55 AM
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He was also a full tilt red pro- and a little bit of a strange guy / but very friendly as I had run into him a couple of times back then- they basically banned him for winning which harrahs has done to a coulple players on video poker back in the day
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January 3rd, 2016 at 3:53:51 PM
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Wait, so if I hit a royal flush with a $240,000 payout I'm going to get banned??
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:16:39 PM
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There is a legit chance
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:19:06 PM
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Quote: WizardofnothingThere is a legit chance
I don't see what's legitimate about that.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:24:00 PM
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Quote: HotBlondeI don't see what's legitimate about that.
Casinos HATE winners!! Even lucky ones.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 7:04:24 PM
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I was kicked out of a small casino for winning 20k in ultimate Texas Holden
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January 3rd, 2016 at 8:28:12 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesCasinos HATE winners!! Even lucky ones.
Aren't all winners lucky?
Quote: WizardofnothingI was kicked out of a small casino for winning 20k in ultimate Texas Holden
That's crazy. It just doesn't make sense. You'd think they'd want you to stay and keep playing so they could win back their money.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:05:52 PM
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I hit two royals in two days on a high denomination machine and was told they didn't want my action anymore. The following week they removed all machines higher than $5.Some places just don`t want big winners.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:11:40 PM
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If it weren't for the slot manufacturer actually paying out huge jackpots when they hit like Megabucks, WoF, etc., casinos would ban those winners also.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 11:09:02 PM
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NO YOU WON'TQuote: HotBlondeWait, so if I hit a royal flush with a $240,000 payout I'm going to get banned??
Seriously guy's? He was not just 86'ed because he just hit some RF's. He was tagged as an AP and that was the reason. It's happened before especially when they had $100 FPDW.
HB you have no chance at being tagged as an AP so don't worry about it. Hit all the 240k RF's you want. I'm certain if you did hit for $240k and they 86'ed you, it would be a blessing in disguise.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 4th, 2016 at 4:19:30 AM
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Axel, that isn't 100 percent accurate ...:.. As to why he was kicked out.... Unless you have more information then I do which is possible.... While I agree she most likely wouldn't be kicked out given her other play- there is a slight chance
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January 4th, 2016 at 5:30:43 AM
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Quote: HotBlondeWait, so if I hit a royal flush with a $240,000 payout I'm going to get banned??
If it is on the machine rsancuary posted you most likely will be. If it's on any other machine you'll be comped extra
Quote: HotBlondeAren't all winners lucky?
Steve Wynn didn't win at the casino because he had more luck than the players. Some win because the odds are in their favor
January 4th, 2016 at 9:52:30 AM
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I ran into one of those at The Stratosphere, but that was a $25/per credit machine. And I did try it - I think I lost a couple hundred if memory serves - but just had to try it because quick quad would have made my day. My week, even. (this is back in 1996-97)
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