HotBlonde
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:33:07 PM permalink
So I just found a JoB machine that has the 9/6 payline but stops at 3 times the bet as opposed to 5 times the bet (it's a $100 machine) and if I hit a Royal Flush it pays 2400. Is this just as fair as playing at a 5 times machine and winning 4000?
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:36:55 PM permalink
Yes, exactly the same just less taxable jackpots because of the lower bet.
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:40:34 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Yes, exactly the same just less taxable jackpots because of the lower bet.


Thank you
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:40:40 PM permalink
Yes, same thing (EV wise).
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December 31st, 2015 at 1:57:17 PM permalink
If you are playing the 100 machine - I am in the wrong business- minimum bankroll you could even think about playing that with is like 100k
Is there a progressive or something on it or some reason you were thinking of playing it?
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December 31st, 2015 at 3:39:50 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

If you are playing the 100 machine - I am in the wrong business- minimum bankroll you could even think about playing that with is like 100k
Is there a progressive or something on it or some reason you were thinking of playing it?



I said same thing in her other thread. She says she likes to play high limit but only play 100 hands.
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December 31st, 2015 at 3:44:23 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

If you are playing the 100 machine - I am in the wrong business- minimum bankroll you could even think about playing that with is like 100k



Wrong. The minimum bankroll required is $100. Or $300 if you want to play with a full pay table.
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December 31st, 2015 at 3:58:30 PM permalink
I usually play up to 100 hands. When I just played at this machine I played 42 hands which was about the equivalent of playing 100 $125 hands which is what I'm used to doing.
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December 31st, 2015 at 6:19:49 PM permalink
Make sure you post a photo of the royal here when you hit it.
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December 31st, 2015 at 6:43:58 PM permalink
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Make sure you post a photo of the royal here when you hit it.


I surely will! A woman came up to me and said she was just dealt a Royal on a $1 machine and won $12,000. Literally dealt it and didn't have to hold anything, she said the machine went off.
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December 31st, 2015 at 6:46:05 PM permalink
She prolly was lying unless it was a 3 line machine 12k would be a huge overlay progressive
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December 31st, 2015 at 7:17:40 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

She prolly was lying unless it was a 3 line machine 12k would be a huge overlay progressive



It could have been a one line $1 Super Times with a 3x multiplier. It also could have been a single line $3 denom game.
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December 31st, 2015 at 7:30:09 PM permalink
Does 3 dollar denom exist I have never ever seen it
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:13:08 PM permalink
Triple play people. Quite a common machine.
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:21:02 PM permalink
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Triple play people. Quite a common machine.



Probably a 60 coin bet on a $0.25 single line machine.
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:21:38 PM permalink
Hot blonde- I'd you are playing that machine- aww they comping you the way they should be?
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:26:26 PM permalink
Weird - who plays 60 coin. In essence that's not a dollar machine that's like says I played a 1200 coin machine single line in quarters
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December 31st, 2015 at 8:44:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Weird - who plays 60 coin. In essence that's not a dollar machine that's like says I played a 1200 coin machine single line in quarters



Most poker games have a 100 coin max bet limitation.
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January 1st, 2016 at 12:57:24 AM permalink
Probably played a $48 denom machine for 1 credit. What's so hard to believe, wizardofnothing, never seen these denoms or what? Very common.
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January 1st, 2016 at 2:10:36 AM permalink
Most of this last page is gold.
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Here's a pic of said machine.. pulled off of the internet.

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January 1st, 2016 at 5:25:03 PM permalink
Sadly that paytable hasn't been available since that hit. I'm pretty sure that was the hit that got him expelled from Caesars.
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January 1st, 2016 at 6:53:31 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Hot blonde- I'd you are playing that machine- aww they comping you the way they should be?


Yes, everything was taken care of: room, NYE party, Mr. Chow, lunches, hair appointment, Britney Spears show.

Quote: rsactuary

Here's a pic of said machine.. pulled off of the internet.


Damn! That's what I was trying to get when I was playing the $100 times 3 machine.
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January 1st, 2016 at 9:56:05 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Sadly that paytable hasn't been available since that hit. I'm pretty sure that was the hit that got him expelled from Caesars.



Yeah and he was banned from the WSOP for awhile over this too. They let him back into that though at least.

A current example of that 3 coin setup is at the 32 Degree Bar at M Resort for Spin Poker. 8/6 Bonus Deluxe (98.49%) is the best choice for quarters there.

I think bally's high limit room had that setup on their $100 units last I looked.
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January 2nd, 2016 at 4:11:07 AM permalink
A bunch of places offer 3-coin $100 VP. In Nevada I've seen it almost as often, maybe more often, than 5-coin $100 VP.

I wish more places offered flexibility in how much you can bet per hand. Several casinos in Reno let you bet 1-25 coins per hand, with full pay at 5+ coins. It's very nice to be able to bet 10-coin $2 or 23-coin $1 instead of 5-coin $5, so quads is $1000 or $1150 instead of $1250 and I'm not waiting for hand pays all the time. Having to choose between 5-coin $2 and 5-coin $5 is just dumb. There are other times when I've wanted to play $10 deuces, but I don't want to wait for hand pays on every wild royal, so I play $5 instead... if they let me play 9-coin $5, the wild royal is $1125 and everyone's happy.
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January 2nd, 2016 at 8:25:15 AM permalink
Quote: fivespot

A bunch of places offer 3-coin $100 VP. In Nevada I've seen it almost as often, maybe more often, than 5-coin $100 VP.

I wish more places offered flexibility in how much you can bet per hand. Several casinos in Reno let you bet 1-25 coins per hand, with full pay at 5+ coins. It's very nice to be able to bet 10-coin $2 or 23-coin $1 instead of 5-coin $5, so quads is $1000 or $1150 instead of $1250 and I'm not waiting for hand pays all the time. Having to choose between 5-coin $2 and 5-coin $5 is just dumb. There are other times when I've wanted to play $10 deuces, but I don't want to wait for hand pays on every wild royal, so I play $5 instead... if they let me play 9-coin $5, the wild royal is $1125 and everyone's happy.



That is why I like to play 50 & 100 play machines. On a $1 9/6 JOB you can play 26 hands and not get a W2G unless dealt 4k or better. The dealt full house pays $1170.
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January 2nd, 2016 at 10:21:04 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

Here's a pic of said machine.. pulled off of the internet.



that player blogged both that weekend of wins, and the follow-up from CET. I found them worth the read, though it's from 2007:

http://www.liontales.com/2007/04/lucky-me.html

http://www.liontales.com/2007/06/fall-of-roman-empire.html

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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:13:56 AM permalink
In that 2nd link he says he was 86d, but in 2013 he posts that he was in the money at wsop. Did they let him back in?
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January 3rd, 2016 at 5:48:52 AM permalink
Yes I believe they did let him back in.I think because he was such a high profile person Harrahs didn't want the bad publicity.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 6:01:55 AM permalink
He was also a full tilt red pro- and a little bit of a strange guy / but very friendly as I had run into him a couple of times back then- they basically banned him for winning which harrahs has done to a coulple players on video poker back in the day
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January 3rd, 2016 at 3:53:51 PM permalink
Wait, so if I hit a royal flush with a $240,000 payout I'm going to get banned??
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:16:39 PM permalink
There is a legit chance
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:19:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

There is a legit chance


I don't see what's legitimate about that.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 4:24:00 PM permalink
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I don't see what's legitimate about that.


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January 3rd, 2016 at 7:04:24 PM permalink
I was kicked out of a small casino for winning 20k in ultimate Texas Holden
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January 3rd, 2016 at 8:28:12 PM permalink
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Casinos HATE winners!! Even lucky ones.


Aren't all winners lucky?

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I was kicked out of a small casino for winning 20k in ultimate Texas Holden


That's crazy. It just doesn't make sense. You'd think they'd want you to stay and keep playing so they could win back their money.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:05:52 PM permalink
I hit two royals in two days on a high denomination machine and was told they didn't want my action anymore. The following week they removed all machines higher than $5.Some places just don`t want big winners.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 9:11:40 PM permalink
If it weren't for the slot manufacturer actually paying out huge jackpots when they hit like Megabucks, WoF, etc., casinos would ban those winners also.
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January 3rd, 2016 at 11:09:02 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

Wait, so if I hit a royal flush with a $240,000 payout I'm going to get banned??

NO YOU WON'T

Seriously guy's? He was not just 86'ed because he just hit some RF's. He was tagged as an AP and that was the reason. It's happened before especially when they had $100 FPDW.

HB you have no chance at being tagged as an AP so don't worry about it. Hit all the 240k RF's you want. I'm certain if you did hit for $240k and they 86'ed you, it would be a blessing in disguise.
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January 4th, 2016 at 4:19:30 AM permalink
Axel, that isn't 100 percent accurate ...:.. As to why he was kicked out.... Unless you have more information then I do which is possible.... While I agree she most likely wouldn't be kicked out given her other play- there is a slight chance
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January 4th, 2016 at 5:30:43 AM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

Wait, so if I hit a royal flush with a $240,000 payout I'm going to get banned??


If it is on the machine rsancuary posted you most likely will be. If it's on any other machine you'll be comped extra

Quote: HotBlonde

Aren't all winners lucky?


Steve Wynn didn't win at the casino because he had more luck than the players. Some win because the odds are in their favor
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January 4th, 2016 at 9:52:30 AM permalink
I ran into one of those at The Stratosphere, but that was a $25/per credit machine. And I did try it - I think I lost a couple hundred if memory serves - but just had to try it because quick quad would have made my day. My week, even. (this is back in 1996-97)
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