Clegg
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:47:33 AM permalink
Hi,

I've been practicing Double Bonus on the Wizard of Odds site and it dealt me this hand:

Qh, Qd, Ad, 10h, Jh

I held the High Pair of 2Q's but the analyzer said this wasn't the best move and to hold the 3 to the RF....I checked with the DB basic strategy guide on WOO and High Pair is before 3RF - is this a bug in the software or a more advanced play?

Thanks

Clegg
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:55:47 AM permalink
Quote: Clegg

Hi,

I've been practicing Double Bonus on the Wizard of Odds site and it dealt me this hand:

Qh, Qd, Ad, 10h, Jh

I held the High Pair of 2Q's but the analyzer said this wasn't the best move and to hold the 3 to the RF....I checked with the DB basic strategy guide on WOO and High Pair is before 3RF - is this a bug in the software or a more advanced play?

Thanks

Clegg


Advanced play. It's most likely an exception to the rule. Not all 3 Card royals are created equally.
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July 24th, 2015 at 1:36:06 PM permalink
You can look at it with the Hand Analyzer:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/hand-analyzer/

The correct hold is the Three-to-a-Royal. In addition to the Royal probability, (same as any other Three-Card hold) the Flush probability (same) the Straight probability (You're tossing a straight penalty card, but that doesn't seem to make a difference in this case, and you have more ways to a straight both ways anyway because it is open on both sides)...you also have two ways to make a Straight Flush 8-9-10-J-Q and 9-10-J-Q-K, I imagine that is where the difference is coming from.
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July 24th, 2015 at 2:00:56 PM permalink
KQJ suited and QJT suited > KK-JJ in 10/7/5, 9/7/5 Double Bonus. The flush and straight possibilities with high payouts for those hands makes even QJT suited better than a high pair.

And yeah, that should be updated in the Wizard's basic strategy. He has the correct exceptions in the 10/6, 9/6 DDB strategy.
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July 24th, 2015 at 2:19:02 PM permalink
Whatever you do, don't do anything this stupid!!

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July 24th, 2015 at 2:49:19 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Whatever you do, don't do anything this stupid!!

https://youtu.be/o_fSgz3Df_8



Who is this rob singer guy
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July 24th, 2015 at 4:44:22 PM permalink
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Who is this rob singer guy


Nobody that matters.
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July 24th, 2015 at 6:26:55 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Whatever you do, don't do anything this stupid!!

https://youtu.be/o_fSgz3Df_8



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July 25th, 2015 at 9:20:22 PM permalink
Sorry for the late arrival.

I just updated my simple strategy page to note that there are exceptions to three to a royal vs. a pair of face cards. 10-7 double bonus is a complicated strategy. You should use this page for something simple and this one for something powerful.
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July 26th, 2015 at 12:43:33 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Whatever you do, don't do anything this stupid!!

https://youtu.be/o_fSgz3Df_8



That was awesome, thanks for sharing. A true legend, years ahead of his time. Some days I wear a seatbelt if I think I may be in a car accident. But if I have a magic sense of knowing I won't be in an accident, I don't wear my seatbelt. Now, all you math people may call me crazy, but I'm still alive aren't I??? That's why you can't always trust the "math". Gotta go with your gut sometimes.
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July 26th, 2015 at 1:39:10 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Whatever you do, don't do anything this stupid!!

https://youtu.be/o_fSgz3Df_8



C'mon, if you're stuck huge and the royal is due to come up any hand now, you'd have to be an idiot to keep the 3 queens! /s
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July 26th, 2015 at 5:04:18 AM permalink
Yep, yep, 1 in 1081 to hit the royal or 1 in 23.5 to hit quads. I know what I'm holding!!
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July 26th, 2015 at 9:22:19 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Yep, yep, 1 in 1081 to hit the royal or 1 in 23.5 to hit quads. I know what I'm holding!!



I am surprised he didn't say throw away everything. That way he has a chance at quads AND a royal. Seems like a dream scenario to me.
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