j28h
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December 28th, 2014 at 4:11:35 PM permalink
***I copied and pasted the below information from the Wizard of Odds optimal strategy for JoB. I have all but memorized this strategy, but am having some trouble understanding the three types of straight flush draws - my main issue is when it comes to Aces. It has caused me to make several mistakes/ bad calls, and I'd like to correct this as soon as possible.

1) I understand that straight flush draws of TYPE 1 have high cards equal to or greater than the number of gaps. So for example, does this include 5h-6h-7h that has no high card and no gaps, or is this an example of a TYPE 2 sfd?

2) Straight Flush Draw TYPE 2 is the most confusing to me. What is meant by Ace Low ? And why is 2-3-4 included here? Also, what TYPE of sfd would A-3-4 be? What TYPE of sfd would A-2-3 be?

3) Straight Flush Draw TYPE 3 I believe I understand.


Thank you in advance for your help, and thank you for understanding that I'm relatively new to video poker (though not poker itself).


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Straight Flush draw (type 1): Straight flush draw in which the number of high cards equals or exceeds number of gaps.

Straight Flush draw (type 2): One of the following straight flush draws.
•One gap and no high cards
•Two gaps and one high card
•Ace low
•2-3-4

Straight Flush draw (type 3): Straight flush draw with two gaps and no high cards.
ThatDonGuy
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December 28th, 2014 at 4:28:19 PM permalink
5-6-7 suited is a Type 1 as it has no gaps, even though it also has no high cards.

Ace Low is A-2-3. There is only one way to fill it - 4-5 - which is the same as having two gaps (e.g. 5-6-9 can be filled only by 7-8), but it has a high card (the Ace). Two gaps and one high card is Type 2.

2-3-4 is included as it has only two ways to fill it - Ace-5 and 5-6 - which is the same as having one gap (e.g. 5-6-8 can be filled only by 4-7 or 7-9). One gap and no high cards is Type 2.
j28h
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December 28th, 2014 at 4:35:26 PM permalink
Thank you for answering my questions so clearly :) I really appreciate it!
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December 28th, 2014 at 5:22:20 PM permalink
Quote: j28h

***I copied and pasted the below information from the Wizard of Odds optimal strategy for JoB. I have all but memorized this strategy, but am having some trouble understanding the three types of straight flush draws - my main issue is when it comes to Aces. It has caused me to make several mistakes/ bad calls, and I'd like to correct this as soon as possible.

1) I understand that straight flush draws of TYPE 1 have high cards equal to or greater than the number of gaps. So for example, does this include 5h-6h-7h that has no high card and no gaps, or is this an example of a TYPE 2 sfd?

2) Straight Flush Draw TYPE 2 is the most confusing to me. What is meant by Ace Low ? And why is 2-3-4 included here? Also, what TYPE of sfd would A-3-4 be? What TYPE of sfd would A-2-3 be?

3) Straight Flush Draw TYPE 3 I believe I understand.


Thank you in advance for your help, and thank you for understanding that I'm relatively new to video poker (though not poker itself).


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Straight Flush draw (type 1): Straight flush draw in which the number of high cards equals or exceeds number of gaps.

Straight Flush draw (type 2): One of the following straight flush draws.
•One gap and no high cards
•Two gaps and one high card
•Ace low
•2-3-4

Straight Flush draw (type 3): Straight flush draw with two gaps and no high cards.



I like the Dancer/Daily code language for these type hands in their strategy charts.

The type 3 hands you describe as two gaps with no high cards, like 3-5-7, 4-6-8, they call SF3 -2.

All of your type 2 hands they call SF3 -1.

Your type 1 hands they have broken down into two categories. The first is SF3 +0. This group includes hands like 5-6-7, 3-4-5, which are hands with no gaps but no high cards. And this group also includes hands with one gap and one high card, such hands as J-T-8, J-9-8. And also includes the hand with two high cards and two gaps, K-J-9.

The last category is called SF3 +1. This group includes hands like J-T-9, no gaps and one high card, and Q-J-9, a hand with one gap but two high cards.

I carry a lot of strategies in my pocket notebook and this code language makes the strategy chart much more compact.
"Quit trying your luck and start trying your skill." Mickey Crimm
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December 29th, 2014 at 8:19:18 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I like the Dancer/Daily code language for these type hands in their strategy charts.

The type 3 hands you describe as two gaps with no high cards, like 3-5-7, 4-6-8, they call SF3 -2.

All of your type 2 hands they call SF3 -1.

Your type 1 hands they have broken down into two categories. The first is SF3 +0. This group includes hands like 5-6-7, 3-4-5, which are hands with no gaps but no high cards. And this group also includes hands with one gap and one high card, such hands as J-T-8, J-9-8. And also includes the hand with two high cards and two gaps, K-J-9.

The last category is called SF3 +1. This group includes hands like J-T-9, no gaps and one high card, and Q-J-9, a hand with one gap but two high cards.

I carry a lot of strategies in my pocket notebook and this code language makes the strategy chart much more compact.

I had no Idea Dancers stuff had a "code" I guess I have never seen a strategy card of his. I may have glanced at a copy of his book one time.

I used to recommend that downloadable VP program for the old smart phone's ( by Zamzow or something) before apps were all the rage. That's why I specifically bought A HTC Phone because I knew it would run that software.

Mickey do you know if you can run Wolf on an android phone without jailbreaking it or to much tinkering?
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December 29th, 2014 at 8:36:22 AM permalink
Been playing JOB at Main Station.
Guy next to me gets a 4OAK, asks bartender to call slot attendant. He gets a scratch off card for 4oak or better.
I had no idea they had this promotion.
Main only, not at other Boyd properties.
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
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December 29th, 2014 at 8:49:55 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Been playing JOB at Main Station.
Guy next to me gets a 4OAK, asks bartender to call slot attendant. He gets a scratch off card for 4oak or better.
I had no idea they had this promotion.
Main only, not at other Boyd properties.

they have been doing this for YEARS probably since they opened (exaggeration but I cannot remember a time they didn't do this)

I think you can still get them for slot wins as well. Perhaps you could take a Must hit slot at a lower number.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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