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June 4th, 2014 at 3:43:17 AM permalink
Is there any VP software that can analyze joker games where the payoff of the hand depends on the number of jokers in the winning hand?

For example:
- straight with no jokers is paid 2 for 1;
- straight with 1 joker is paid 4 for 1;
- straight with 2 jokers is paid 8 for 1.

Any response will be appreciated.

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June 4th, 2014 at 4:45:48 AM permalink
Quote: VPRookie

Is there any VP software that can analyze joker games where the payoff of the hand depends on the number of jokers in the winning hand?

For example:
- straight with no jokers is paid 2 for 1;
- straight with 1 joker is paid 4 for 1;
- straight with 2 jokers is paid 8 for 1.

Any response will be appreciated.

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I don't think there is any software on the market that will fully analyze this game for you. It would take some time but someone who is good enough at combinatorial math could figure it out. The big question is what is the payback of the game. Is it worth the effort?

What is the rest of the payscale? Are other hands like flushes, full houses, 4 of a Kinds payed the same way? Do you mind me asking what the name of the game is?
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June 4th, 2014 at 7:19:59 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

I don't think there is any software on the market that will fully analyze this game for you. It would take some time but someone who is good enough at combinatorial math could figure it out. The big question is what is the payback of the game. Is it worth the effort?


One cannot know the payout before analyzing is done. And only then one will know if it is worth the effort. This is why I am looking for software to save my efforts in case payout is bad. And in the future I can come across such games and hopefully find some errors in paytables that could give me an edge.

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What is the rest of the payscale? Are other hands like flushes, full houses, 4 of a Kinds payed the same way? Do you mind me asking what the name of the game is?


Well, this is an online game by Boss Media. The name of the game is "Spot of Luck".

Here is the paytable:

Poker Hand: no jokers; 1 joker; 2 jokers

Natural Royal Flush: 800; 800; 800
Wild Royal Flush: 50; 100; 200
Five of a Kind: 24 (1); 48 (2); 96 (3)
Straight Flush: 10; 20; 40
Four of a Kind: 5; 10; 20
Full House: 3; 6
Flush: 2; 4; 8
Straight: 2; 4; 8
Three of a Kind: 1; 2; 4

(1) 24 (Den. 0.25), 25 (Den. 0.5), 26 (Den. 1.00), 27 (Den. 5.00)
(2) 48 (Den. 0.25), 50 (Den. 0.5), 52 (Den. 1.00), 54 (Den. 5.00)
(3) 96 (Den. 0.25), 100 (Den. 0.5), 104 (Den. 1.00), 108 (Den. 5.00)
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June 4th, 2014 at 8:53:45 AM permalink
Strange game, at first I wondered if this game was dealt from a random deck.

But if you just take the no joker pays and shove it into a jacks or better game, you get 20.93%, so the other two pays are probably worth a lot more. Which isn't that surprising really.
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June 4th, 2014 at 9:23:49 AM permalink
There is no Five of a Kind or Wild Royal Flush with zero jokers, so I'm not sure why they included payouts for those.

But for the four paytables, I get the following results:

Five of a Kind pays Return
48/96 97.0851%
50/100 97.2253%
52/104 97.3655%
54/108 97.5057%
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June 4th, 2014 at 10:29:36 AM permalink
Quote: JB

There is no Five of a Kind or Wild Royal Flush with zero jokers, so I'm not sure why they included payouts for those.



Probably to keep the paytable from having blanks.

Payouts look like what you would expect. Thanks JB!
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