Extra Draw Frenzy
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Until I know the number of Extra Draw hands the player will average, I can't do a proper analysis of the game. However, I welcome you to visit this early draft of my page on the game and provide your thoughts.
Unfortunately, you'll need to get the exact probability of bonus hands from IGT obviously.
And when you play this for 10-play, you can get up to an extra 15 hands I think.
I guess you'd have to have IGT's programming numbers or a lot of anecdotal evidence on how often you get each of 3 to 7 additional hands to figure the bonus value, though; the help screen is pretty vague about it.
For Double Double Bonus:
3-play
9/6 99.005%
9/5 98.082%
5-play and 10-play
9/6 99.047%
9/5 98.124%
Quote: vetsenFor Double Double Bonus:
3-play
9/6 99.005%
9/5 98.082%
5-play and 10-play
9/6 99.047%
9/5 98.124%
How do you know that?
Quote: vetsenvideopoker.com has an app that has returns for most every game.
By app, do you mean something for a cell phone? Is there any way to get those return percentages at videopoker.com?
I haven't seen them on the website, but I haven't thoroughly looked since I have the app.
download the Puffin browser app they have a 14 day free trial. and after that its like $3 . It is awesome and its the only one I have found that works well, it works on I pad and droid. I can play flash games, play poker, online casino, watch flash videos, movies, shows and everything.Quote: Ibeatyouraceshttp://www.videopoker.com/android/
I can't play on the site anymore as my phone does not accept flash player.
So ddb?
How much +ev does the Extra Draw give to regular ddb?
and 9/6 JoB Extra Draw Frenzy has the same house edge as regular 9/6 JoB?!
"The game is based on three-play and five-play video poker, and the player must bet one extra credit per hand to enable the Extra Draw feature."
Ten play should also be added.
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I thought you quit and deleted all your posts because Zuba bought out the Wiz?
Quote: 100xOddsIbeatyouraces
Member since: Jan 12, 2010
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I thought you quit and deleted all your posts because Zuba bought out the Wiz?
Did I ever say that I did that? Nope, someone assumed that. And you know what happens when someone "ass-u-me"s?
Quote: 100xOddsif I play this, then I should play the VP variant that gives the most for quads?
Except TDB has a penalty on 3oK, and there are a lot of whiffs on improving the bonus hands.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI notice an error on the page. Wizard has:
"The game is based on three-play and five-play video poker, and the player must bet one extra credit per hand to enable the Extra Draw feature."
Ten play should also be added.
Long time no see. Thank you for the correction.
Quote: WizardLong time no see. Thank you for the correction.
Soitently...nyuk, nyuk, nyuk
Quote: IbeatyouracesDid I ever say that I did that? Nope, someone assumed that. And you know what happens when someone "ass-u-me"s?
Why can't you just admit what you did and that you were wrong? Let's not rewrite history.
Quote: bigfoot66Why can't you just admit what you did and that you were wrong? Let's not rewrite history.
I take these accusations as insults! Anyone else want to insult me????? And unless someone had hard proof, I suggest keeping your big fat traps shut! You really think I'd waste all that time doing that then come back? I'm not that stupid.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI take these accusations as insults! Anyone else want to insult me????? And unless someone had hard proof, I suggest keeping your big fat traps shut! You really think I'd waste all that time doing that then come back? I'm not that stupid.
Methinks the gentleman doeth protest too much. It's not a matter of stupid or not stupid. It was reasonable to think that there might be some changes around here when the ownership changed hands. But there were no changes. You deprived the whole community of a lot when you deleted all your posts, now anything you posted in has a broken continuity. People have no idea what you wrote and may not be able to make sense of the replies.
It is so obvious what you did and why that the burden of proof is on you if you expect people to believe otherwise. At the end of the day, it does not matter why you deleted all your posts. You destroyed a huge part of the archive of the site and people here have every right to be upset about it.
Quote: bigfoot66Methinks the gentleman doeth protest too much. It's not a matter of stupid or not stupid. It was reasonable to think that there might be some changes around here when the ownership changed hands. But there were no changes. You deprived the whole community of a lot when you deleted all your posts, now anything you posted in has a broken continuity. People have no idea what you wrote and may not be able to make sense of the replies.
It is so obvious what you did and why that the burden of proof is on you if you expect people to believe otherwise. At the end of the day, it does not matter why you deleted all your posts. You destroyed a huge part of the archive of the site and people here have every right to be upset about it.
F off!! And if you have a problem with it, come to Detroit and say it to my face!!
Quote: IbeatyouracesF off!! And if you have a problem with it, come to Detroit and say it to my face!!
Calm down dude. You are making yourself look like a child. Just admit that you misjudged the situation and all will be forgiven. We all make mistakes: Strong men admit when they are wrong, weak men refuse to admit their errors.
I would suggest that this entire line of conversation be dropped unless someone has something to offer by way of hard proof one way or another. One party asserts, the other denies, and it's not going to go anywhere.
boy, did videopoker.com cure me of that addiction FAST!
10play extra draw frenzy (tdb version).
don't know how many hands I played. I saw 5 ads. if 200 hands per ad, then 1200 hands. (200 initial + (5x200) )
if 250 hands per ad, then 1500 hands.
got 3oak babies (2,3,or 4) twice but only once out of ~50 free games from the frenzy feature did I get quads. and it didn't have a kicker. :(
also got a quad baby by holding a pair but also no kicker.
after being down a Royal (-4000 coins), I quit.
on a real $1 9/7 tdb machine, that would have been -$4000 in just 2 hrs of play.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too rich for my bankroll.
staying away from tdb! (I was planning on doing DiaD on tdb with a $5k bankroll to start the 2018 season. but -$4k and not even 1/3 of the way there is scary!)
also staying away from extra draw frenzy.
I don't have the patience to wait for dealt special 3oak (aces, 2,3,4) for the frenzy gimmick.
Quote: 100xOddsso after hitting a string of quads with kicker on tdb in 1 weekend, I now want more quads with kicker!
boy, did videopoker.com cure me of that addiction FAST!
10play extra draw frenzy (tdb version).
don't know how many hands I played. I saw 5 ads. if 200 hands per ad, then 1200 hands. (200 initial + (5x200) )
if 250 hands per ad, then 1500 hands.
got 3oak babies (2,3,or 4) twice but only once out of ~50 free games from the frenzy feature did I get quads. and it didn't have a kicker. :(
also got a quad baby by holding a pair but also no kicker.
after being down a Royal (-4000 coins), I quit.
on a real $1 9/7 tdb machine, that would have been -$4000 in just 2 hrs of play.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too rich for my bankroll.
staying away from tdb! (I was planning on doing DiaD on tdb with a $5k bankroll to start the 2018 season. but -$4k and not even 1/3 of the way there is scary!)
also staying away from extra draw frenzy.
I don't have the patience to wait for dealt special 3oak (aces, 2,3,4) for the frenzy gimmick.
I never see any ads playing on that site. They're easily blocked, and I'm just a regular non-paying member!
Also note, that you can't play normal optimal strategy in that game. When dealt AAA39 or 44426, the game only holds the AAA or 444 for the bonus hands and not AAA3 or 4442 as your supposed to.
it's the video ads. I have ad block plus but it still plays.Quote: IbeatyouracesI never see any ads playing on that site. They're easily blocked, and I'm just a regular non-paying member!
Also note, that you can't play normal optimal strategy in that game. When dealt AAA39 or 44426, the game only holds the AAA or 444 for the bonus hands and not AAA3 or 4442 as your supposed to.
yeah, I saw that on one of the dealt 3oak babys.
but theres nothing I can do about it since the frenzy feature kicks in automatically.
and im assuming the return takes this into account?
Quote: 100xOddsit's the video ads. I have ad block plus but it still plays.
As the game is loading, click to stop it. It'll still load but ads won't play. It works for mobile, not sure about PC's
