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March 9th, 2021 at 7:09:37 PM permalink


Contrary to popular opinion, I can be sworn to secrecy about plays, especially when I'm part of it. Such was the case with a double jackpot promotion at the Longhorn last Thursday. The following sign on the machines states the rules in Spanish. Below is my translation.



Double Voucher for the Top Prize

All day each Thursday in March.
If you achieve any top prize in slots, a royal flush, or at least $500 or more in keno, we will double the top prize up to $1000 in free play.

the top prize has to be verified on the screen by a team member.

*Royal flush has to be at the maximum bet.
Management reserve the right to alter or cancel this promotion at any moment.

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Axelwolf and I made a deal for information about the play. Several other forum members were there as well. The promotion started at midnight and I arrived early to secure a machine. Every good machine in the casino was taken and I was probably fortunate to get the one I had.

As the rules mention, free play vouchers were given for the doubled portion of any qualifying win. Much of my time was spent waiting for said vouchers. The entire casino, which is small, I think had only two employees writing them for a lot of players hitting wins the requisite $500 to $1000 range. They worked very hard and I never felt they were slow paying winners or showing favoritism to anybody.

At 5:30 AM, somebody came over the public address system to say that the promotion was cancelled per management decision. The Longhorn's sister property, the Bighorn, also ran the same promotion. I hear they cancelled it earlier, around 3:00 AM.

Today I returned to redeem my free play vouchers. My first order of business was to attempt to spend my points on Longhorn swag. I heard other players who did the promotion were informally 86'd, so I wanted to spend my points while I still could. When I presented my card at the player club desk, the woman working there said, "The manager would like to speak with you."

Immediately said manager came out to see me. He shook my hand and was very friendly. In his office, he acknowledged that in retrospect the promotion was too generous and it was a costly lesson for them to learn. He that he fully intended to honor all vouchers redeemed within a week of the promotion. The vouchers didn't state an expiration date, but he said there was one in the official rules, which I still have never seen, and they had the right to alter them. Fortunately, I redeemed them in time, per the advice of Axel.

When it was all said and done, my net profit was $7,454. I have been asked to not write about what game I played and how. Axel has requested that there not be any posts regarding the strategy for promotions such as this.

As far as I know, the promotion is still good, but only for slots. I don't perceive any value playing that game for this promotion, but maybe I'm wrong.

In closing, I'd like to thank Axel for the information. Hopefully he will share more information about his experience with it.
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March 9th, 2021 at 7:16:26 PM permalink
I am glad to hear that you participated. A promotion starting at Midnight was just too late for me.

A rumor that I heard from an employee said that they lost about $250k in those five hours. I have no idea if that is accurate or not.
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March 9th, 2021 at 7:54:43 PM permalink
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A rumor that I heard from an employee said that they lost about $250k in those five hours. I have no idea if that is accurate or not.



I heard that too. I believe it, especially if it combines both "horn" properties.
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March 9th, 2021 at 8:34:29 PM permalink
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Every good machine in the casino was taken and I was probably fortunate to get the one I had.



Heh, many people live in houses bigger than that casino floor.
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March 10th, 2021 at 6:06:50 AM permalink
A few questions....
1. Were you not able to redeem the free play on the day you won it?
2. I assume you would make whatever bets the machine allowed that got you to the $500 mark even if it defied the ‘normal’ strategy for the game you were playing?
3. I assume you could bet machine max so lower type hands would get you to $500 more frequently?
4. Could you bet a lot on a game of keno that you would frequently get to the $500?
5. Mike.... the $7k you profited.... was that all $$ or was some of it ‘swag’?
6. I assume you played with a players card, or not?
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March 10th, 2021 at 7:25:08 AM permalink
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I heard that too. I believe it, especially if it combines both "horn" properties.



Yes, I believe that number was for both casinos.
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March 10th, 2021 at 8:22:41 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard



Contrary to popular opinion, I can be sworn to secrecy about plays, especially when I'm part of it. Such was the case with a double jackpot promotion at the Longhorn last Thursday. The following sign on the machines states the rules in Spanish. Below is my translation.



Double Voucher for the Top Prize

All day each Thursday in March.
If you achieve any top prize in slots, a royal flush, or at least $500 or more in keno, we will double the top prize up to $1000 in free play.

the top prize has to be verified on the screen by a team member.

*Royal flush has to be at the maximum bet.
Management reserve the right to alter or cancel this promotion at any moment.

--------

Axelwolf and I made a deal for information about the play. Several other forum members were there as well. The promotion started at midnight and I arrived early to secure a machine. Every good machine in the casino was taken and I was probably fortunate to get the one I had.

As the rules mention, free play vouchers were given for the doubled portion of any qualifying win. Much of my time was spent waiting for said vouchers. The entire casino, which is small, I think had only two employees writing them for a lot of players hitting wins the requisite $500 to $1000 range. They worked very hard and I never felt they were slow paying winners or showing favoritism to anybody.

At 5:30 AM, somebody came over the public address system to say that the promotion was cancelled per management decision. The Longhorn's sister property, the Bighorn, also ran the same promotion. I hear they cancelled it earlier, around 3:00 AM.

Today I returned to redeem my free play vouchers. My first order of business was to attempt to spend my points on Longhorn swag. I heard other players who did the promotion were informally 86'd, so I wanted to spend my points while I still could. When I presented my card at the player club desk, the woman working there said, "The manager would like to speak with you."

Immediately said manager came out to see me. He shook my hand and was very friendly. In his office, he acknowledged that in retrospect the promotion was too generous and it was a costly lesson for them to learn. He that he fully intended to honor all vouchers redeemed within a week of the promotion. The vouchers didn't state an expiration date, but he said there was one in the official rules, which I still have never seen, and they had the right to alter them. Fortunately, I redeemed them in time, per the advice of Axel.

When it was all said and done, my net profit was $7,454. I have been asked to not write about what game I played and how. Axel has requested that there not be any posts regarding the strategy for promotions such as this.

As far as I know, the promotion is still good, but only for slots. I don't perceive any value playing that game for this promotion, but maybe I'm wrong.

In closing, I'd like to thank Axel for the information. Hopefully he will share more information about his experience with it.

I don't have much to add for now. I would like to thank the person who tipped me off early and gave me time to prepare, he is a member of the forum and part time AP who lives out of own and couldn't make it to the play himself. He didn't expect or want anything for the information, nonetheless, I will be sending him over a couple of thousand for the information, as I normally do take care of people for good information about play, and that goes for anyone. Not too bad considering he had no risk. I think he knew I would not dick around. They don't always work out and there are costs involved with setting plays even before you get down. It also takes time away from other stuff you are playing.
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March 10th, 2021 at 8:59:14 AM permalink
Truth be told, I'm surprised that you guys would post anything about this.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 10th, 2021 at 10:58:33 AM permalink
I am no longer welcome at Longhorn and was escorted out the day after the promo by security. Must be doing something right when give you the old heave-ho!

Thanks for the money Longhorn!
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March 10th, 2021 at 11:04:39 AM permalink
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I am no longer welcome at Longhorn and was escorted out the day after the promo by security. Must be doing something right when give you the old heave-ho!

Thanks for the money Longhorn!



1.) Open a casino.
2.) Come up with a stupidly player advantageous promotion.
3.) Lose a crap ton of money.
4.) Throw out the majority of the players who we lost money to.
5.) ???????
6.) Profit.

It seems like you could get to profit faster by just skipping steps #2-#4.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219

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