SOOPOO
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March 10th, 2021 at 11:06:20 AM permalink
I think the Longhorn deserves praise. Sounds like they realized they made an error but still chose to honor the results. It is quite easy to imagine it going another way.
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March 10th, 2021 at 11:07:31 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I think the Longhorn deserves praise. Sounds like they realized they made an error but still chose to honor the results. It is quite easy to imagine it going another way.



That's true. I still don't know what the purpose of 86'ing anyone who took advantage of a one-off thing is. You'd think they'd just not have that kind of promotion again.
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March 10th, 2021 at 11:27:26 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

That's true. I still don't know what the purpose of 86'ing anyone who took advantage of a one-off thing is. You'd think they'd just not have that kind of promotion again.



They must realize that they are not smart enough to not make a similar mistake in the future. And probably rightly determined that anyone clever enough to take advantage would also be clever enough to not just frequent the Longhorn to play the -EV games that the Longhorn makes its profit off of. It is clearly a good business decision to 86 those that availed themselves of the promo.
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March 10th, 2021 at 11:38:23 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I am no longer welcome at Longhorn and was escorted out the day after the promo by security. Must be doing something right when give you the old heave-ho!

Thanks for the money Longhorn!



i honestly cant believe you guys let casinos treat you like that - what the hell
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March 10th, 2021 at 1:00:54 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

They must realize that they are not smart enough to not make a similar mistake in the future. And probably rightly determined that anyone clever enough to take advantage would also be clever enough to not just frequent the Longhorn to play the -EV games that the Longhorn makes its profit off of. It is clearly a good business decision to 86 those that availed themselves of the promo.



If they 86 people on a promotion that most people could find an advantage on, that's probably a mistake. You want to 86 the people who have figured out the susceptible promotions that most people wouldn't have figured out.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
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March 10th, 2021 at 2:08:58 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

If they 86 people on a promotion that most people could find an advantage on, that's probably a mistake. You want to 86 the people who have figured out the susceptible promotions that most people wouldn't have figured out.



Thatís kind of the case here, I think.

The obvious play for a slight advantage is video poker as long as the paytables arenít complete garbage, but they wouldnít have been doing the obvious play. Per the OP, Iím not going to speculate as to what they might have been doing, so no point asking...but it would have been better than VP.

Iíd also say the casino itself would probably have known VP becomes beatable and fully expected people to play that. VP wouldnít kill them though, given the rules of the promotion.
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March 10th, 2021 at 2:13:38 PM permalink
"Here's your damn bonus stimulus bonus, now get out and don't come back!"
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March 10th, 2021 at 2:30:03 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

They must realize that they are not smart enough to not make a similar mistake in the future. And probably rightly determined that anyone clever enough to take advantage would also be clever enough to not just frequent the Longhorn to play the -EV games that the Longhorn makes its profit off of. It is clearly a good business decision to 86 those that availed themselves of the promo.



Iíd agree with that, but if you ran another easy to beat promotion, then the people who were 86íed will just tell other APís how to go in there and beat it.

In the meantime, if you hadnít kicked them out and see them in there again like itís APCON-Las Vegas chapter...you donít have to get tagged for six figures; you can just immediately know you screwed up and pull the plug on the promo.
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March 10th, 2021 at 2:35:14 PM permalink
Never too late to learn I suppose.

I have been to Vegas countless times and have never even heard of the Longhorn. I had to Google it to make sure it is even IN Vegas.

Some local girls once took me to, what was it called, some dump owned by Terrible Herbst I think it was, in Vegas for karaoke, so it's not like I haven't seen the less elegant side, but - never the Longhorn.
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March 10th, 2021 at 2:41:50 PM permalink
I will neither confirm or deny I was 86ed. Actually, I'm going to deny it, nobody said anything other than I wasn't welcome back.

This isn't the first time, and it won't be the last time casinos toss out Advantage Players for beating their promotions. As far as I'm concerned, they're dumb to do so since it just gives him a bad reputation and there will always be more Advantage Players to replace the ones they tossed out, they can never possibly get them all. In my opinion, they should use the opportunity to promote how much money they gave out and ask Advantage Players to give them good reviews and suggest everyone using their facilities. If they could just get half the advantage players that played to hop on Twitter, Instagram, discord etc. and post up pictures of all the bonuses they received how well they did that would be the best course of action. I'm fairly certain most Advantage Players would go out of their way to do those things since it would be beneficial for them to do so, instead of getting 86ed and in hopes the casinos will continue to run good promotions.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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