The Adventures of Axelwolf
In sum, the ones with more experience, such as Teliot, AlanMendelson, etc. - people who either play heavily or are somehow aware of heavy players - don't have a problem with any of this. I have also been contacted via PM by a few players here who have won big and know that everything I post makes sense. It's interesting how the ones who are the most adamant about saying "It can't be" are the furthest removed from any of all this. Because it never worked for them, they think it couldn't work for anyone. The harder anyone steps in to object, the more obvious it is that that person has been unsuccessful at the casinos, either at winning, getting comp'ed, or both - and doesn't want to accept that anyone else could be more successful.
Still, as I've mentioned, if someone wants to say that the math makes it improbable, that's one thing. And they don't even know what's going on they're just basing it on what they think is going on. But to say it's impossible is ridiculous, because I have done it and continue to do it. Which is not to say that I don't play at an advantage. Of course I do. But some get irate because I discuss only the results. All that matters in the end - are results. I'm not here to teach, preach or sell. The Adventures of MDawg are trip reports, the same way MDawg's Investments are records of trades made.
If you look back the the beginning of The Adventures of MDawg, or rather, at the beginning of when I started to post at this forum, I was coming in after a decade or so hiatus. I had walked away ahead. And at that point, in 2018, I was saying, "let's see if I can do this again." About three years later I have not only done it, but done it even better, more consistently than before.
Quote: MDawgBut to say it's impossible is ridiculous, because I have done it and continue to do it.
Just saying the math is wrong "because I have done it and continue to do it" means nothing. Ya know Wizard said and I quote:
Quote: Wizard
It is time for a put up or shut up moment, as I am getting sick of all the suspensions this topic is engendering. MDawg, if you claim you can beat baccarat, then show me. Not with pictures of money on a bed, but by actually playing.
And yet...NOTHING! You blow Mike off telling him you are too busy to meet him and "put up or shut up", and then just keep going on with your bullsh*t claims as if nothing happened. Even starting new threads like this trolling anyone challenging your claims and for some reason, Mike is letting you get away with it.
Quote: MDawgWhich is not to say that I don't play at an advantage. Of course I do.
This is completely different than what you have claimed.
Are you playing at a mathematical Advantage now, an advantage play you don't wish to disclose?
Or do you mean your ability to guess future results is your Advantage?
This is my point in saying that AxelWolf makes offers, claims and wagers and then steps back from them later to back down or create some qualifier - we all saw it, right there time and again - that sort of thing represents in my book a lack of ability to say something and stick to it, which to me, makes his opinion on anything less than solid.
Didn't DarkOz as well pull out of some wager deal he had with CoachBelly? Was that here at WOV? I don't recall the exact details.
Quote: JohnzimboSo the M in Mdawg stands for Milli Vanilli?
Quote: WizardPersonal insult -- Three days.
Huh. Now that's a bit surprising. Rather than it being an insult, I thought he was (by reference) implying that the member had more credible personal skills than most readers here believed.
Quote: DocHuh. Now that's a bit surprising. Rather than it being an insult, I thought he was (by reference) implying that the member had more credible personal skills than most readers here believed.
When I think of Milli Vanilla I think of a fraudulent live action play.
Quote: DocHuh. Now that's a bit surprising. Rather than it being an insult, I thought he was (by reference) implying that the member had more credible personal skills than most readers here believed.
Milli Vanilli were notorious for being award winning musicians that did not feature on any of their records... They were proven to be fakes. Hence the insult suspension.
https://w1nnersclub.com/celebrity/milli-vanilli-exposed/
People do win playing -EV games. It's not as easy as when you play +EV games, but it happens.
Big winners may not get comps or free play, and then big winners might get comps and free play. The same applies to big players. Different casinos have different policies.
What does it mean to play with an advantage? To some it only means you have a mathematical advantage. To people who can see hole cards the advantage is a skill of seeing the hole card. I dont know what skill or advantage there is in Baccarat but if there's a casino game someone must know something the general public doesn't. Is it card counting? I don't know.
There are also reasons winning players dont report profits on their tax returns. The obvious reason is they dont want to pay taxes. Another reason is they dont want an ex wife to see a profit. They may not even want to show any play if currently married.
There are also forum posters who are anonymous for various reasons. They may not want their winning ways to be exposed or they might never have won and want to imagine they're whales.
The bottom line is that anonymous forums can be filled with info and claims that may never be verified or can't be verified.
Chill out, is my advice. Because anyone can pull off a con. At the same time anyone could be telling the absolute truth.
I'm still waiting to see the mega RV.
Quote: cmlotitoI'm not sure what a STR is but I think you are referring to a SAR - Suspicious Activity Report. We file them at my job for transactions that are suspicious and over $2,000.
There are both SARs and STRs, suspicious activity reports and suspicious transaction reports. SARs would be filed most of the time for Casino players that refused to give their ID and the casino was not privy to actually who they are. STRs would be filed most of the time for somebody that is known or somebody that has partial identification collaborated as to who they are or who they are with, if they were seen taking money from another known player so he is not CTR'd. It's a little complicated but basically an SAR would be filed for an unknown player. And then STRs would be filed if the person is given the money bya a known player for whom he is with, that was seen passing the money to or from. A lot of Casino employees will use one term as an STR for both of them because of the CTR well known initials, once they start with the letter A for the word 'activity', then everybody wants a big long explanation. That's why I always say an STR no matter which one it is.
A good example for an STR is where people buy in for large amounts of money and they only play a few hands maybe win or lose just a very small fraction of what they bought in for and then cash out and it's well over $10,000 or numerous times like 5 or 10 times in a day or two of $5,000 each. Where they are requesting checks from the casino which most casinos will do when they cash in chips for larger amounts of money and it's a clear case of washing the money and they have their ID. This is a suspicious transaction report vs a suspicious activity report. Where an actual transaction actually happened and they have ID the person.
Quote: MDawgGood to know.
For a known long time player like me, I am sure that there are never any STRs filed on me, and they stick to the strict 10K cash / 24 hours, for CTRs, which is mandatory by law. I am sure they know by now that I am, as one of my bankers put it once, "just a gambler," and not anyone trying to pull any kind of money laundering or shady business.
Yes you are correct. Unless you started something where you were definitely seen pocketing chips and cashing them out in smaller amounts on a repetitive basis, not a one-time thing or not to grab five hundred or a thousand or a couple thousand dollars to go shopping with but if you definitely started skimming on a consistent basis and then cashing them out and you are known to tell the cashier that there were no markers and no other buy ins, etc. In other words you have to be considerably Cashing Out tens of thousands of dollars in small amounts, in the attempt to circumvent a CTR from being filed.
Quote: Marcusclark66There are both SARs and STRs, suspicious activity reports and suspicious transaction reports. SARs would be filed most of the time for Casino players that refused to give their ID and the casino was not privy to actually who they are. STRs would be filed most of the time for somebody that is known or somebody that has partial identification collaborated as to who they are or who they are with, if they were seen taking money from another known player so he is not CTR'd. It's a little complicated but basically an SAR would be filed for an unknown player. And then STRs would be filed if the person is given the money bya a known player for whom he is with, that was seen passing the money to or from. A lot of Casino employees will use one term as an STR for both of them because of the CTR well known initials, once they start with the letter A for the word 'activity', then everybody wants a big long explanation. That's why I always say an STR no matter which one it is.
A good example for an STR is where people buy in for large amounts of money and they only play a few hands maybe win or lose just a very small fraction of what they bought in for and then cash out and it's well over $10,000 or numerous times like 5 or 10 times in a day or two of $5,000 each. Where they are requesting checks from the casino which most casinos will do when they cash in chips for larger amounts of money and it's a clear case of washing the money and they have their ID. This is a suspicious transaction report vs a suspicious activity report. Where an actual transaction actually happened and they have ID the person.
Thank you for the clarification.
Quote: darkozWhen I think of Milli Vanilla I think of a fraudulent live action play.
Quote: OnceDearMilli Vanilli were notorious for being award winning musicians that did not feature on any of their records... They were proven to be fakes. Hence the insult suspension.
I think I failed to convey my intent of humor through sarcasm. One of my many failures.
Quote: vegasWhere is Coach Belly???
I was suspended, but now available to continue the conversation.
Quote: coachbellyAccusations presented as facts...Isn't that problematic?
The quote below is an example of what I was referring to.
Quote: PokerGrinderHe complains nonstop and gets people suspended
Is this accusation true, does MDawg complain and get members suspended?
Quote: WizardI'm just popping in to say that I'm watching to make sure everybody behaves.
I think the accusation is problematic, can you please weigh in on this, and put the rumor and gossip to rest?
Quote: coachbellyI was suspended, but now available to continue the conversation.
The quote below is an example of what I was referring to.
Is this accusation true, does MDawg complain and get members suspended?
I think the accusation is problematic, can you please weigh in on this, and put the rumor and gossip to rest?
I would propose you spend your energy getting MDawg to respond to the Axel bet. As I quoted Axel wants terms from MDawg about how much he will wager for how many hands for Axel to propose the stakes of the bet.
Quote: coachbellyI think the accusation is problematic, can you please weigh in on this, and put the rumor and gossip to rest?
I don't like to reveal when a suspension was a result of a complaint, but about 80% of them are.
Quote: WizardI don't like to reveal when a suspension was a result of a complaint, but about 80% of them are.
The offending post is brought to the attention of the mods by an offended member?
Otherwise, the offending post would not likely be discovered?
What percentage of these complaints are private?
Quote: WizardI don't like to reveal when a suspension was a result of a complaint, but about 80% of them are.
Which also means, yes Mdawg complains nonstop to get people suspended.
Quote: unJonI would propose you spend your energy getting MDawg to respond to the Axel bet.
I was suspended and haven't had the energy to read enough to catch up on any recent bets/challenges.
Can you forward some quotes?...I'm not at all clear on what bet you are referencing.
Quote: PokerGrinderWhich also means, yes Mdawg complains nonstop to get people suspended.
As well he should
Quote: PokerGrinderWhich also means, yes Mdawg complains nonstop to get people suspended.
I haven't read nonstop complaints by any members that advocate for the suspension of another member.
I've read infrequent posts where members call for the suspension of another member, my most recent suspension was requested by another member.
But I'm not aware of the content of private messages between members and mods.
Are you?
Isn't this the advertisers of AxelWolf?Quote: kewljAxelwolf, you DO NOT have to answer to or owe this guy any explanation of anything. There is no one familiar with you on the forums (even some of us that have occasionally fought with you) that has any question that you are legit. If you want to share things, that is fine. I enjoyed reading the above post and learning a little more about you. BUT don't let this person goad you into feeling like you have to explain yourself. You don't.
Great, lets take one at a time. Let's start with the 5k freeroll 'Fake the adventures of MD'. My statement was that all the pictures of watches, markers, chips, cash, players rewards information could be faked. Basically post up a series of pictures/ videos and information that makes you look like a high roller.Quote: MDawgAxelWolf when you're ready to follow through on either your claim that you could fake easily the Adventures of Mdawg thread, or your proposed wager that I am not betting at the levels I claim, just let me know. Otherwise, my hat's off to that you came up from nothing, is that what you are saying? but otherwise, as far as anything that concerns me or your keeping your word, *yawn.
Since you could easily start requiring a never ending imposable list of things needed. I suggest we agree on 2 long term known respected members come up with a list of things required ad then judge if the requirements pass or fail. I would insist the money is guaranteed since there's no way for anyone to guarantee payment if someone were to succeed.
Mike has stated he doesn't read the many of the threads like this so unless someone complains and brings it to his attention there wouldn't be any suspensions. Why don't you ask MDawg if he would allow Mike and the other moderators to disclose how many times he complained, so unless he's will to let people know he probably complaints excessively I have a feeling its a NO. ( action or no action taken). Care to put up an O/U line?Quote: coachbellyI haven't read nonstop complaints by any members that advocate for the suspension of another member.
I've read infrequent posts where members call for the suspension of another member, my most recent suspension was requested by another member.
But I'm not aware of the content of private messages between members and mods.
Are you?
Quote: AxelWolfI suggest we agree on 2 long term known respected members come up with a list of things required ad then judge if the requirements pass or fail.
Since you proposed to take things one at a time, why not take them in order & one at a time, starting with MDawg's original $50K challenge.
Have the 2-member panel look at MDawg's documentation, and judge whether or not any of it was faked.
Why shouldn't the same conditions you made above apply to MDawg's original challenge, for you to prove his documentation was faked?
Quote: AxelWolfWhy don't you ask MDawg if he would allow Mike and the other moderators to disclose how many times he complained, so unless he's will to let people know he probably complaints excessively I have a feeling its a NO. ( action or no action taken). Care to put up an O/U line?
Let's make a deal...let's answer questions one at at time in the order they were asked.
I'm not aware of the content of private messages between members and mods. Are you?
This doesn't involve you coach belly. MDawg is an attorney. He doesn't need you speaking for him (and getting most things wrong).
Quote: kewljThis doesn't involve you coach belly.
It doesn't involve you either, so why are you commenting?
Quote: coachbellyIt doesn't involve you either, so why are you commenting?
Actually it does involve me. I am one of the people calling out Mdawg's claims as defying or being extremely improbable by the math. Two weeks ago, I even proposed my own 6 figure wager, which MDawg chose to ignore and got lost when Wizard shortly after issued his challenge for MDawg to put up or shut up and show Mike what he is doing.
And that's ok, because none of these 5 or 6 figure wagers were ever going to happen....they just weren't. Just after I posted mine, I got private messages from people suggesting I rethink because there are ways I hadn't considered that a wager could be manipulated.
So Wizards challenge or request that MDawg show him is the best solution to put and end to this. And it is not unfair for Wizard to request that. Wizard had provided a platform for over a year now for these claims that are in direct contradiction to what this forum and Wizards "brand" is about....the math of gambling. So after a year of allowing these claims, it is not at all unreasonable for Wizard to say "Ok, time to show me". As a matter of fact, it is quite overdue.
When you're the challenger or challenge you can dictate whatever you want. He hasn't taken a solid step or come up with anything reasonable. Mike said, "put up or shut up", and he came up with an excuse. I decline being involved in something thart requires a member to be an expert when there's not someone I consider to be an expert. How could someone tell what's fake and what isn't? It could be real documents and pictures but until he is willing to identify himself to someone there's no way of knowing it's actually his paperwork.Quote: coachbellySince you proposed to take things one at a time, why not take them in order & one at a time, starting with MDawg's original $50K challenge.
Have the 2-member panel look at MDawg's documentation, and judge whether or not any of it was faked.
Why shouldn't the same conditions you made above apply to MDawg's original challenge, for you to prove his documentation was faked?
Quote: MDawgCoachbelly, we're talking about a guy who makes offers, claims and wagers, and then doesn't even follow up on his OWN proposals
Some members seem to think that I am not authorized to comment on the challenges involving you.
Do you have a problem with me commenting in support of you, in support of the doubters, or objectively as to the logistics of the proposed challenges?
Quote: AxelWolfMike said, "put up or shut up", and he came up with an excuse.
I recall MDawg explaining that he and Mike are having private communications regarding that challenge.
Is that the excuse that you mean? That they are working it out privately?
Quote: AxelWolfI decline being involved in something that requires a member to be an expert when there's not someone I consider to be an expert.
Isn't that what you just proposed, right on the previous page?
Quote: AxelWolfI suggest we agree on 2 long term known respected members come up with a list of things required ad then judge if the requirements pass or fail.
Quote: coachbellySome members seem to think that I am not authorized to comment on the challenges involving you.
Do you have a problem with me commenting in support of you, in support of the doubters, or objectively as to the logistics of the proposed challenges?
Not at all.
Quote: MDawgHow about the wager AxelWolf HIMSELF proposed right in this thread? Why can't he follow through on his own proposal without coming back later and declaring that he has reconsidered and needs to make some qualifiers. That's always the same story with this guy. He gets excited or something, makes some offer, proposal or wager, and then backs off. Same as he did with Wizard's watch...he made an unconditional offer to buy it, sight unseen, stating that he didn't even care what brand it was, and then later, without knowing anything more, declared that he would perform only if it was a good deal. What is that?
He asked you to propose your bet level and number of hands played. He said with that info he would propose the stakes of the bet.
This is the second time I’ve mentioned this.
For this particular bet, the ball is in your court.
How do I play? I play the way I claim in my day to day trip reports!
This guy should hold off on saying things until he is sure he can back it up, follow through. If he has issues or qualms, or second thoughts, he should think things through first, then speak.
By the way, one of the "qualifiers" he came up with, again AFTER he proposed the bet, is that he's concerned that I would borrow the money for the bets I make. I am a longstanding credit line player, and I've said this from Day One, even posted a Blog here on how to get casino credit. Of course I borrow all the money for every bet I make. Sheesh. The guy has been talking about markers - he doesn't know what a marker is? I already know that he didn't realize that a marker with the signature torn out means it has been paid, but how could he not realize what a marker is or MEANS, entirely, in this context of a credit line player? Completely irrelevant issue he raises.
In general - The absurdity of proposing a bet and THEN presenting qualifiers is in my mind, as absurd as making an unconditional offer to buy a watch and then later qualifying it with the words "only if it's a good deal."
Quote: MDawgHe proposed the bet himself. He said that I am not playing the way I claim. I accepted.
How do I play? I play the way I claim in my day to day trip reports!
This guy should hold off on saying things until he is sure he can back it up, follow through. If he has issues or qualms, or second thoughts, he should think things through first, then speak.
By the way, one of the "qualifiers" he came up with, again AFTER he proposed the bet, is that he's concerned that I would borrow the money for the bets I make. I am a longstanding credit line player, and I've said this from Day One, even posted a Blog here on how to get casino credit. Of course I borrow all the money for every bet I make. Sheesh. The guy has been talking about markers - he doesn't know what a marker is? I already know that he didn't realize that a marker with the signature torn out means it has been paid, but how could he not realize what a marker is or MEANS, entirely, in this context of a credit line player? Completely irrelevant issue he raises.
In general - The absurdity of proposing a bet and THEN presenting qualifiers is in my mind, as absurd as making an unconditional offer to buy a watch and then later qualifying it with the words "only if it's a good deal."
MDawg
You criticized me for mentioning that you didn't qualify for promo chips a few times in I believe your words I was a broken record
Let me say that the number of times you have said "Axel doesn't understand how markers work sounds like a broken, cracked, scratched and melted record at this time
But I bring up the markers issue here with reference to its relevance to his proposed bet. Which I am sure is not going to happen as he didn't seem to have thought it through before proposing it.
By the way, other than the Hot Blonde Challenge or whatever it was called, which was before my time, have any recent wagers at WOV gone through to fruition?
Quote: unJonHe asked you to propose your bet level and number of hands played. He said with that info he would propose the stakes of the bet.
I read through the thread and missed that, can you post the quote?
Here are what I consider the critical quotes regarding this challenge.
Quote: DRichI for one do believe that you play as big as you claim.
Quote: AxelWolfOh, DrRch. Not you...Care to make a wager on that?
Quote: kewljThe high roller is POSSIBLE.
Quote: AxelWolfWilling to wager on it?
Quote: AxelWolfthere are tons of high rollers out there everyday. I'm fairly confident MDawg isn't one of them.
Quote: MDawgI'M WILLING TO WAGER IT. How much?
Quote: AxelWolfI already said you were boring me, so ill let you know when I feel like it.
I couldn't locate any relevant comment Axel made after this last one, but I could have missed it.
Then, as usual, he came back later with qualifiers....
Quote: MDawgSo we're all broken records at times.
Here's a very telling and revealing exchange from earlier in the thread...
Quote: kewljThe high roller is POSSIBLE. The winning isn't.
Quote: teliotThat's false. The winning is definitely possible.
Quote: kewljI hate it when someone like you comes along and says it is possible.
The doubter insists MDawg's claims are mathematically impossible, but the expert explains that what the doubter insists is false, and the response from the doubter is to proclaim hatred for an expert presenting the facts.
This is how debate is stifled.
Quote: AxelWolfI have nothing to prove, YOU DO. I'm not the one making all kinds of outrageous claims. Unlike you, I never set out to or came here with any intentions or anything to prove, other than an internet search for some information about some online casinos I suspected were cheating(My suspensions were correct ).My only option AP'ing was online since I was recovering from some serious surgeries and medical issues that should have killed me, it was a domino effect on my entire life and a long battle not months, but years. At one point, I could barely walk for months and could barely swallow anything.Quote: MDawgI believe there were three "issues" with AxelWolf.
1) He made an unconditional offer to buy Wizard's watch. Later, he qualified this by saying that he'd buy it "only if it was a good deal."
Wizard let him out of the offer anyway, so that issue is over now.
2) He stated more than once that he could create a faked Adventures of MDawg thread that would look just as genuine as my real thing.
He's been challenged to do so, first post of this thread, but apparently now claims that he is too "bored" to get around to doing it.
3) Out of the blue, on his own, he jumped to bet DRich and KewlJ that I was not a high roller and never bet in the sums or way I claimed in my day to day trip reports of sessions, i.e. that I was like some banned former member who he contends turned out to be a complete fraud. He asked if there were any other "takers" for this action - this proposed bet of his. I accepted his wager instantly.
When pressed, now he comes up with all sorts of qualifiers as to why he can't make such a bet without further thought.
Someone mentioned jumping the shark. What about jumping the gun with making offers, claims and bets? that are later essentially rescinded.
I basically had to start my life over from scratch. I stuck around WOV and posted frequently since I was basically stuck at home and I enjoyed it very much everything including the dumb mindless drama. The times that I wasn't stuck at home, I didn't really have the motivation. Eventually after doing some recovering physically and financially(online went really well, thanks to Bovada mostly ).
Eventually, I was ready to get back to the real casinos and perhaps start a new team. I just so happened to meet someone on the forum who was moving to to Las Vegas looking to count card and play a little VP and restart his life. He wanted information regarding cheap housing here, I knew of a possible place next door. That place wasn't right for him but I started talking about AP with him, I told him pure card counting at the levels he was prepared for wasn't worth it and I revealed some other techniques, such as slot loss rebates(they were trending at the time). I remember him saying, "I feel like taking the place just so I can learn some AP stuff". I told him not to worry, let's hit the casinos and I'll show you a few things.
That snowballed successfully and we have been partners with others I meet on this forum since. I may not be the smartest, the best, the hardest working AP but I guarantee my knowledge and outside the box thinking has been beneficial to others and has helped them learn, think differently, make money and connections. And beyond that I have helped AP's financially who needed it.
No one who's been involved with me regarding AP stuff is broke or desperate. A bunch of talk and pictures posted up on a forum doesn't accomplish jack sh*t. I I'm still here because this forum has been 90% positive to me and it's directly responsible to me for meeting a good number of great people and making some good friends, and business connections of many years now.
Why is such a rich, fancy watch wearing, high rolling, never lose, stock guru wasting his precious time here? It certainly seems like you're going all out to convince people that you're something you're not.
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Again, I ask, it's not that hard of a question, how much will you bet per hand and how many hands will you be playing?
You post all these pictures and claims, 220+ pages worth. And you get upset when people say they don't believe you (which is everyone's right to not believe), to the point that you attack those people on several forums. So it is obviously important to you that people believe you. You want that credibility right?
Well Wizard has offered you that credibility. Show him And if everything is as you say, he will come back and report that and you will have everything you want so bad. You NOT accepting that, even JUMPING at that offer to put this to rest and claim victory speaks volumes. That is all anyone really need know. You would rather just keep going on with the same status quo. You making claims, showing a few pictures that few find credible and continuing with all the same drama.
If you wanted this to end, you would accept Mike's challenge and prove everyone wrong and claim victory. You are not doing that because you can't.
Quote: unJonCoachbelly, it’s the very end of the below post after the dashes.
OK...now I understand why I missed it.
But the quote under the dashes begins with "Again" which implies that the
original quote/question is elsewhere, specifically the reply where...
Quote: unJonHe said with that info he would propose the stakes of the bet.
Quote: darkozDeleted
Having second thoughts?
I read your comment, but you deleted it before I was able to post a reply.
That certainly stifling debate, don't you agree?
