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December 5th, 2020 at 4:44:13 PM permalink
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I don't think it's proper for someone else to create a thread of someone else's adventures.



This seems to be a consentual (why doesn't my computer like that spelling?) feud, so I'll see where it leads, for now.
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December 5th, 2020 at 4:45:31 PM permalink
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Carry on. I think I’ll watch MMA tonight.

3 of 11 matches canceled last minute and start time delayed.
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December 5th, 2020 at 4:51:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This seems to be a consentual (why doesn't my computer like that spelling?) feud, so I'll see where it leads, for now.



consensual
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December 5th, 2020 at 7:03:32 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

consensual



Not saying you're wrong, but why did the T get changed to an S?
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December 5th, 2020 at 7:13:40 PM permalink
Assuming for a second that Mdawg's tale is true, I can personally attest that the tide ALWAYS turns. I had wild swings in video poker from March 2016 thru October 2020. When it ran good I thought I was invincible. And when It ran bad I felt like I couldn't do anything right. From my lowest point to my highest point it was a spread of about $250.000. And I bounced around from +/- $30,000 a few times before hitting the $240,000. I can honestly say I had numerous times I would hit a jackpot just when I was about to call it quits. That kept me going. Did it give me a false sense of invincibility? Maybe. Best example I have is when I lost almost $9k at Turning Stone Casino in NY while visiting relatives. I came home with about a grand left. Of course I decide to stop at MGM National Harbor on the way home and get this reprieve.



Off a damn bare Jack. I won back almost all the money I lost in NY and that kept me going in 2017. (Hit that May 7, 2017) I still remember laughing at the absurdity of having played many hours in NY and losing only to hit this in a short amount of time to win almost all of it back. Definitely worth a laugh.

That was one of many shocking (from my perspective) wins I have had the last 4 years. If I were to write them all up here (although I think I did mention this jackpot before) I think a few of you may find it unbelievable. I know I still have a hard time believing it myself.

However, shit always turned around the other way for me. Probably a good thing. In retrospect I had a lot of fun with a decent amount of frustration thrown in to keep me humbled at times.

Maybe Mdawg has yet to have a humbling experience gambling. It's only a matter of time.
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December 5th, 2020 at 7:14:44 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Not saying you're wrong, but why did the T get changed to an S?



consensus?
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December 5th, 2020 at 7:18:00 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

May I offer a radical suggestion to whose who don't like MDawg -- block him.

In other news, I removed the word "faked" from the title of this thread. It is now, "THE ADVENTURES OF AXELWOLF."


Mike it’s a clear troll from a repeat offender. Scrubbing the troll from the title doesn’t take away the offence. He wants everyone policed to the nth degree then he should be as well. This is clear as day and he deserves a long martingale as a repeat offender.
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December 5th, 2020 at 7:36:28 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Not saying you're wrong, but why did the T get changed to an S?



As it does in consensus.
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December 5th, 2020 at 8:25:38 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

This seems to be a consentual (why doesn't my computer like that spelling?) feud, so I'll see where it leads, for now.

Sure there's a feud, however, it's seems like it's a clear violation of the rules and he crossed a line. It wasn't just some tit for tat in a thread. He went out of his way to make a thread with the intonations of disparaging someone('Im living rent free in his head) even more, he didn't add, 'he thinks' to the title of the thread (not that doing so would make it acceptable either) he stated it as fact. FYI I don't think I have ever started a thread like this in all my years here.

Most here know his suggestions that I'm fake, or whatever he's getting at, is complete bunk. I've been fairly open about myself to members here, including my fault and weaknesses, I don't try to fake anything. I don't make fantastic claim like he does, I don't claim to be the best, smartest the richest or anything like that. I generally tell people what I'm good at and what I'm not good at if the subject comes up.

With that being said, there might be new members who don't know me it's not like there's a single thread they can read to draw a conclusion, someone might just read the headlines.

I understand why you may be a little reluctant to suspend him since it would be a hefty martingale that exceeds the table limit.
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December 5th, 2020 at 8:32:45 PM permalink

Howwwww much?
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December 5th, 2020 at 9:02:45 PM permalink
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Howwwww much?

I already said you were boring me, so ill let you know when I feel like it. AND NO, IM NOT AVOIDING IT.

FYI I already know your going to pull one of your big bet bluffs, however, I'm not dumb enough to fall for a situation that would make it profitable for you and someone to loan you the money in order to win the bet. My bet will be in an amount that makes sure you don't gain a mathematical advantage. None of that should matter since you claim to bet significant amounts anyways.
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December 5th, 2020 at 9:15:41 PM permalink
As predicted, "he'll shortly back down or create some sort of qualifier now."

WHAT MATHEMATICAL ADVANTAGE? what are you TALKING about. You made a straight bet across the board, something you proposed yourself out of the blue, that you tried to get two others to take up, DRich and KewlJ I believe it was, that I am not even betting at the levels I claim in my day to day session trip reports as posted in my Adventures thread, and that I am akin to some suspended member you keep mentioning from the distant past who you claim was a complete fraud and never bet a nickel at the tables. THAT IS ALL. How simple of a bet could that be? Either I am high rolling or I am not. You going to back out now??

My session reports are very clear. You're saying I NEVER bet like that and never could bet like that. How simple of a wager is this? What could be simpler?
The wager you proposed is that I do not bet the way I claim I bet.
Stop playing games man, I grow annoyed at your irresolution.

How much do you wager?
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December 5th, 2020 at 9:16:54 PM permalink
I just want to say I'm very grateful to have stayed out of this conversation, there is some serious hostility here...
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December 5th, 2020 at 9:33:50 PM permalink
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Someone is lying and I don't believe it's MDawg.

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December 5th, 2020 at 9:35:20 PM permalink
I'm interested in making $5,000.
Suppose I show you one diamond Rolex and one year of W2Gs that total $2.9-million?
I'll even meet Wizard for him to inspect them himself.
How much do I get?
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December 5th, 2020 at 9:36:36 PM permalink
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The winning is definitely possible.

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December 5th, 2020 at 10:34:54 PM permalink
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Hehehehehe, mr Eliot makes a respectable thread that puts you for the most part and shows your claims to be untrue as you have no INFORMATION. And you quote him.
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December 6th, 2020 at 12:05:33 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

As predicted, "he'll shortly back down or create some sort of qualifier now."

WHAT MATHEMATICAL ADVANTAGE? what are you TALKING about. You made a straight bet across the board, something you proposed yourself out of the blue, that you tried to get two others to take up, DRich and KewlJ I believe it was, that I am not even betting at the levels I claim in my day to day session trip reports as posted in my Adventures thread, and that I am akin to some suspended member you keep mentioning from the distant past who you claim was a complete fraud and never bet a nickel at the tables. THAT IS ALL. How simple of a bet could that be? Either I am high rolling or I am not. You going to back out now??

My session reports are very clear. You're saying I NEVER bet like that and never could bet like that. How simple of a wager is this? What could be simpler?
The wager you proposed is that I do not bet the way I claim I bet.
Stop playing games man, I grow annoyed at your irresolution.

How much do you wager?

I'm sorry you fail to understand, most others here do. I'll try to make it simple for you..

If I bet you 5k that you don't bet at the levels you claim to, you could simply borrow money to make big wagers. You would obviously win the bet and that would give you a mathematical advantage. You could bet 25 hands at 10k and still have an advantage if i have to pay you 5k. I can't tell you how much I want to wager until i know how many hands you are going to play and what size bets you will be making.
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December 6th, 2020 at 4:09:19 AM permalink
We are talking about MDawg, who accused me of fantastic claims about Freeplay by saying there is no way I could find enough homeless people to sign up for $10 new membership offers.

And who claims he receives no freeplay from casinos while simultaneously getting thirty days of RFB at the same location!

And also has stated he doesn't receive any mailers from casinos!!!

So basically someone with no experience of casino comps.
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December 6th, 2020 at 5:11:43 AM permalink
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So the M in Mdawg stands for Milli Vanilli?



Personal insult -- Three days.
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December 6th, 2020 at 7:26:05 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz



So basically someone with no experience of casino comps.


Did you use the same logic to determine that, as you used to decide to buy ridiculous sums of your losing penny stock?

You would do better to listen to MDawg. If you had, you'd be looking at a multi bagger by now in TSLA. I advised you to buy TSLA long ago. Instead you kept buying more and more CYDY. 🤓

I've been comp'ed more in a week than you'll personally ever get in comps your entire life. I don't even drink and my friends have been comp'ed $10,000. bottles of wine and $5000. dinners on my tab before, back when I used to play bigger. Even these days playing smaller, I get comp'ed for weeks at a time full RFB in large suites, at top casinos, not low end regional casinos back east. I contend that the day you are able to get my level of comps is the day you stop buying garbage penny stocks, in other words...never.
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December 6th, 2020 at 7:30:40 AM permalink
This whole thing has jumped the shark.
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December 6th, 2020 at 7:39:26 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

As predicted, "he'll shortly back down or create some sort of qualifier now."



I believe there were three "issues" with AxelWolf.




1) He made an unconditional offer to buy Wizard's watch. Later, he qualified this by saying that he'd buy it "only if it was a good deal."
Wizard let him out of the offer anyway, so that issue is over now.



Quote: AxelWolf

What leads you to believe any of that is real? We have seen member's fake such things.

Should I go though the trouble of faking all the things he's posted up?


2) He stated more than once that he could create a faked Adventures of MDawg thread that would look just as genuine as my real thing.
He's been challenged to do so, first post of this thread, but apparently now claims that he is too "bored" to get around to doing it.





3) Out of the blue, on his own, he jumped to bet DRich and KewlJ that I was not a high roller and never bet in the sums or way I claimed in my day to day trip reports of sessions, i.e. that I was like some banned former member who he contends turned out to be a complete fraud. He asked if there were any other "takers" for this action - this proposed bet of his. I accepted his wager instantly.
When pressed, now he comes up with all sorts of qualifiers as to why he can't make such a bet without further thought.


Someone mentioned jumping the shark. What about jumping the gun with making offers, claims and bets? that are later essentially rescinded.
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December 6th, 2020 at 7:57:31 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Did you use the same logic to determine that, as you used to decide to buy ridiculous sums of your losing penny stock?

You would do better to listen to MDawg. If you had, you'd be looking at a multi bagger by now in TSLA. I advised you to buy TSLA long ago. Instead you kept buying more and more CYDY. 🤓

I've been comp'ed more in a week than you'll personally ever get in comps your entire life. I don't even drink and my friends have been comp'ed $10,000. bottles of wine and $5000. dinners on my tab before, back when I used to play bigger. Even these days playing smaller, I get comp'ed for weeks at a time full RFB in large suites, at top casinos, not low end regional casinos back east. I contend that the day you are able to get my level of comps is the day you stop buying garbage penny stocks, in other words...never.



I'm sure you win at stocks the way you win at Baccarat!

Most of the forum members will get what I am saying
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December 6th, 2020 at 8:02:14 AM permalink
What's really sad is that you advised or encouraged others to buy CYDY, and some apparently actually listened to you. I believe that BillRyan accused you of pumping it including after you bought in. On the surface, that is exactly what you did!

Again, you would have done better to listen to me - and buy TSLA. Or AMZN. Or any of the other stocks I have mentioned and own myself. Those are multi, multi, multi baggers just since the time I have mentioned them.

With large caps stocks like the ones I own, everyone on WOV and their friends and family could buy in and it wouldn't matter, my positions would not be affected positively in any significant manner, but with a pink sheeter like CYDY, everyone you induce to buy in with your continued rhetoric about how great it is, might actually pop the stock a tad for you.
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December 6th, 2020 at 8:30:13 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

What's really sad is that you advised or encouraged others to buy CYDY, and some apparently actually listened to you. I believe that BillRyan accused you of pumping it including after you bought in. On the surface, that is exactly what you did!

Again, you would have done better to listen to me - and buy TSLA. Or AMZN. Or any of the other stocks I have mentioned and own myself. Those are multi, multi, multi baggers just since the time I have mentioned them.

With large caps stocks like the ones I own, everyone on WOV and their friends and family could buy in and it wouldn't matter, my positions would not be affected positively in any significant manner, but with a pink sheeter like CYDY, everyone you induce to buy in with your continued rhetoric about how great it is, might actually pop the stock a tad for you.



So now you are accusing me of making underhanded attempts to push a fraud stock.

For one thing the science is still sound and while the stock is down, it's still actually up in multiples since one year ago. It simply climbed up and came down a bit.

The trials (and yes trials take a long time) are moving forward

Anyone on here who invested I hope did their due diligence and researched the science (something you seem incapable of doing but I have to assume since you don't believe in the math of Baccarat you don't believe in the science of drug trials either)

Here is a challenge. Post your stock picks BEFORE they go up or down.

I challenge you to be as honest as I am in picking your winners BEFORE the action has occurred
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December 6th, 2020 at 8:32:11 AM permalink
As usual, you like to use hyperbole to try to make your point. "Underhanded" is your word. So you're calling it a "fraud stock" now? Your words! not mine.


As far as trading:
I post completed trades. If you can't understand how that works, I can't help you. In some cases I post not just the screen shots but even an additional picture of the iPhone displaying the trade. To anyone who has a stock account, these are obvious.

Sometimes I post that I am in a stock, and haven't sold yet, in situations where I get stuck in a temporary losing position. But in many cases, I am in and out of the trade profitably within minutes, and in most all cases, within the hour. What's important to me is making money on the trade. Posting it for people to see is of secondary importance, but I was posting all of my trades here for a while. Now I post them at TruePassage.

As far as long term:
I hold long term shares of the same stocks I trade, and I have been suggesting that others buy these same stocks for months, if not years.


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Someone is lying and I don't believe it's MDawg.

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December 6th, 2020 at 8:36:32 AM permalink
So how does that work? You take out a $1,000 marker and don't pay it off until the end of your trip so they don't close your line of credit? You'll be free to take out a million more in markers, but they don't want that last thousand back?
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December 6th, 2020 at 8:43:27 AM permalink
Okay, somehow there is some disconnect here ChumpChange.

What I said was that if you cash out too many winning chips, they threaten to temp close your credit line - for the duration of your trip. Basically they want to try to keep you from walking with too much of the casino's money.

If you try to cash too many chips, they will ask you to either (1) not do it, (2) deposit the chips with them so that their value is added on top of your credit line for you to draw against, or (3) cash them and accept that your line will be temp closed for the rest of this trip.

When I left this last time I converted that 47K in winning chips to a casino check, and they told me that they were now closing my line for the rest of the trip, but I didn't care as we were leaving that day anyway. I don't even play on check out days, those days are the worst days to play as people hunch over the tables desperate to win or play catch up as it gets closer and closer to departure time. Additionally, during the course of winning, little by little, I collected about 27K in cash without having them temp. close my line. So we went home with total winnings a 47K check plus about 27K in cash.


By the way, you mentioned somewhere something about what % of your line you need to be able to bet more than the posted standard limits. I am not sure, but this last trip someone I met at the tables and befriended could bet up to $40,000. a hand (double the posted limit). I think he had either a half million line or a half million deposited.

You said that Planet Hollywood currently allows up to $100,000. per hand at Baccarat for anyone off the street? I don't know - I used to play at the Aladdin's London Club and their limit was I recall the same as anywhere else at that time, $15,000. I do know that just prior to Harrah's Ent. (now known and Caesar's Ent.)'s buying the Rio, the Rio allowed anyone off the street to bet $100,000. a hand at Bacccarat.

Today, most limits on the Strip at Baccarat are $20,000. At the Venetian, the limit is $35,000. And again, these are for regular players.


It seems like you're thinking of getting credit lines? You may read my blog on how to get them
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/mdawg/blog/#post1785
but I will say this most emphatically - just because you have say X dollars available to you liquid does not mean you should get a line equal to X. That's not responsible gaming.

I have many lines, all substantial, but even if I were blown out and lost every one of them - which would never happen as I try to play at only one casino at a time - I try to play only where I stay - I'd still be able to pay them all off comfortably and not have it affect our lifestyle whatsoever.

I'd suggest that if you have X amount of dollars available to you liquid, that you keep your lines TOTAL, I mean all of them combined, at 1/20 of that liquid money, at worst. And your over all net worth had better be much much higher by many exponential ratios than your liquid net worth. I mean, this is just gambling, you don't want to risk anywhere near what you have it's just entertainment to me. And, if I didn't win consistently, I wouldn't do it at all. What's the entertainment in losing?
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December 6th, 2020 at 9:10:10 AM permalink
Can you open a separate front money account for your winnings? I suppose depositing them at the cage to add to your credit line might be the same.
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December 6th, 2020 at 9:15:59 AM permalink
No if you deposit cash or chips while you have a credit line it just goes on top of your line. When you draw at the tables they will draw against your front money first, and then your credit line if you get to that point of needing it. I learned this the few times I deposited my winning chips.

Another interesting "casino fact" is that if you are a straight front money player, and bring a cashier's check, they will verify it - with the bank, or whatever. But if you are a credit line player and you lose and need to pay off your credit line with a cashier's check, they just accept it without any verification. I know this from the old days when I used to win and lose large amounts trip to trip. I ended up way ahead, before I took my decade or so hiatus, but I had big swings back then.

I've always been a credit line player, but back then when I used to bring the cashier's checks to pay off the occasional loss, I'd ask them if they needed to verify it, and they'd say no, we do that only with cashier's checks for front money players.
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December 6th, 2020 at 9:42:36 AM permalink
I'm sure the casinos ask too many questions for me to answer to open a line of credit. I am interested in front money though. Can I just walk up with $5,000 in chips and my player's card and open a front money account? How long can I keep the account open? Does it earn interest? Are there reporting requirements? Do I have to close the account each December 31st for bookkeeping purposes?
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December 6th, 2020 at 9:45:08 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I believe there were three "issues" with AxelWolf.

1) He made an unconditional offer to buy Wizard's watch. Later, he qualified this by saying that he'd buy it "only if it was a good deal."

Wizard let him out of the offer anyway, so that issue is over now.

2) He stated more than once that he could create a faked Adventures of MDawg thread that would look just as genuine as my real thing.

He's been challenged to do so, first post of this thread, but apparently now claims that he is too "bored" to get around to doing it.

3) Out of the blue, on his own, he jumped to bet DRich and KewlJ that I was not a high roller and never bet in the sums or way I claimed in my day to day trip reports of sessions, i.e. that I was like some banned former member who he contends turned out to be a complete fraud. He asked if there were any other "takers" for this action - this proposed bet of his. I accepted his wager instantly.

When pressed, now he comes up with all sorts of qualifiers as to why he can't make such a bet without further thought.

Someone mentioned jumping the shark. What about jumping the gun with making offers, claims and bets? that are later essentially rescinded.

I have nothing to prove, YOU DO. I'm not the one making all kinds of outrageous claims. Unlike you, I never set out to or came here with any intentions or anything to prove, other than an internet search for some information about some online casinos I suspected were cheating(My suspensions were correct ).My only option AP'ing was online since I was recovering from some serious surgeries and medical issues that should have killed me, it was a domino effect on my entire life and a long battle not months, but years. At one point, I could barely walk for months and could barely swallow anything.

I basically had to start my life over from scratch. I stuck around WOV and posted frequently since I was basically stuck at home and I enjoyed it very much everything including the dumb mindless drama. The times that I wasn't stuck at home, I didn't really have the motivation. Eventually after doing some recovering physically and financially(online went really well, thanks to Bovada mostly ).

Eventually, I was ready to get back to the real casinos and perhaps start a new team. I just so happened to meet someone on the forum who was moving to to Las Vegas looking to count card and play a little VP and restart his life. He wanted information regarding cheap housing here, I knew of a possible place next door. That place wasn't right for him but I started talking about AP with him, I told him pure card counting at the levels he was prepared for wasn't worth it and I revealed some other techniques, such as slot loss rebates(they were trending at the time). I remember him saying, "I feel like taking the place just so I can learn some AP stuff". I told him not to worry, let's hit the casinos and I'll show you a few things.

That snowballed successfully and we have been partners with others I meet on this forum since. I may not be the smartest, the best, the hardest working AP but I guarantee my knowledge and outside the box thinking has been beneficial to others and has helped them learn, think differently, make money and connections. And beyond that I have helped AP's financially who needed it.

No one who's been involved with me regarding AP stuff is broke or desperate. A bunch of talk and pictures posted up on a forum doesn't accomplish jack sh*t. I I'm still here because this forum has been 90% positive to me and it's directly responsible to me for meeting a good number of great people and making some good friends, and business connections of many years now.

Why is such a rich, fancy watch wearing, high rolling, never lose, stock guru wasting his precious time here? It certainly seems like you're going all out to convince people that you're something you're not.


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Again, I ask, it's not that hard of a question, how much will you bet per hand and how many hands will you be playing?
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December 6th, 2020 at 9:54:53 AM permalink
AxelWolf when you're ready to follow through on either your claim that you could fake easily the Adventures of Mdawg thread, or your proposed wager that I am not betting at the levels I claim, just let me know. Otherwise, my hat's off to that you came up from nothing, is that what you are saying? but otherwise, as far as anything that concerns me or your keeping your word, *yawn.

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I'm sure the casinos ask too many questions for me to answer to open a line of credit. I am interested in front money though. Can I just walk up with $5,000 in chips and my player's card and open a front money account? How long can I keep the account open? Does it earn interest? Are there reporting requirements? Do I have to close the account each December 31st for bookkeeping purposes?


No interest. In the U.S.: If you deposit check or chips or bank wire in, they won't report anything to anyone. If you deposit or withdraw over 10K cash over 24 hours they will report.

There is no need to close the front money account at any point. It will stay active as long as it is funded, and activatable at any time you decide to fund it. Yes you will need to identify yourself fully though to play with deposited chips, cash or check/wire, and probably your player card account info will be enough although they may ask for more info like a social security number too.
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December 6th, 2020 at 9:57:38 AM permalink
Axelwolf, you DO NOT have to answer to or owe this guy any explanation of anything. There is no one familiar with you on the forums (even some of us that have occasionally fought with you) that has any question that you are legit. If you want to share things, that is fine. I enjoyed reading the above post and learning a little more about you. BUT don't let this person goad you into feeling like you have to explain yourself. You don't.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:02:00 AM permalink
lol as if KewlJ is the person to give a lesson in "letting things go," trying not to prove that he's a BJ winner and master multiple table card counter, or not arguing to the end about how someone must not be who he says he is, a la Rob Singer.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:06:44 AM permalink
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Again, I ask, it's not that hard of a question, how much will you bet per hand and how many hands will you be playing?



Highlighting the question at the end of Axel’s post about the terms of the bet “Is MDAWG a high roller?”
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:18:09 AM permalink
It appears to be a waste of time, because, for the third time, he presented an offer, a claim or a wager, and then either backed out entirely or added qualifiers.

I have posted my day by day session trip reports. He claimed that I am not betting like that, and that I am akin to some banned member here who he claims turned out to be a complete fraud, i.e. wasn't betting a nickel. That's a very clear proposed wager. I ask how much does he wager? Nothing - just backpedals and tries to add qualifiers, and then gives some long speech about how he is apparently self made from nothing. What does that have to do with the wager he himself proposed?

My point is that - when I say something here, I say it only because I know it to be true, or at least have observed it to be true from personal experience. I don't guess, I don't make things up. I don't say that a guy must be posting something about before a session is played if I don't even know that a marker with the signature torn out indicates definitively that it must have to do with after the session is concluded. I don't ask a guy to "show me the CTR" if I am not clear on what a CTR is or how it works. And if I propose a wager, I already have it clearly defined in my mind and am ready to go if anyone accepts.

This guy tosses stuff out there and then later apparently reconsiders, is my point.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:27:28 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

AxelWolf when you're ready to follow through on either your claim that you could fake easily the Adventures of Mdawg thread, or your proposed wager that I am not betting at the levels I claim, just let me know. Otherwise, my hat's off to that you came up from nothing, is that what you are saying? but otherwise, as far as anything that concerns me or your keeping your word, *yawn.


No interest. In the U.S.: If you deposit check or chips or bank wire in, they won't report anything to anyone. If you deposit or withdraw over 10K cash over 24 hours they will report.

There is no need to close the front money account at any point. It will stay active as long as it is funded, and activatable at any time you decide to fund it. Yes you will need to identify yourself fully though to play with deposited chips, cash or check/wire, and probably your player card account info will be enough although they may ask for more info like a social security number too.



There are numerous other considerations within the pit that involve STRs and CTRs, some casinos have lowered their reporting limit to right at the $5,000 threshold depending on the circumstance(s) of the player. Years ago it was a strict $10,000 rule within 24 hours. But it's not that way these days. Let's clarify it a little further and say for known players and players that are already ID'd it will be a $10,000 threshold to cash out or buying or combination thereof, within a 24-hour period. But those that are trying to avoid giving ID and being rated and being known, it very well might NOT BE. And like I said STRs, suspicious transaction reports, have a large consideration no matter if they're extremely suspicious or not. And a lot of people don't want to give their IDs. STRs will come into effect right at $3,000 threshold in the majority of the casinos these days. This is post September 11th, but it became even stronger after 2010-2012 or so.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:35:03 AM permalink
Good to know.

For a known long time player like me, I am sure that there are never any STRs filed on me, and they stick to the strict 10K cash / 24 hours, for CTRs, which is mandatory by law. I am sure they know by now that I am, as one of my bankers put it once, "just a gambler," and not anyone trying to pull any kind of money laundering or shady business.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:37:06 AM permalink
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lol as if KewlJ is the person to give a lesson in "letting things go," trying not to prove that he's a BJ winner and master multiple table card counter, or not arguing to the end about how someone must not be who he says he is, a la Rob Singer.



The people I challenge have one thing in common.....their math doesn't work. Their claims aren't supported by math. I don't think it is too much to ask that if someone wants to claim this or that, to at least have the math work. And I don't mean possible, 1 in a million chance or many standard deviations out type chance. I mean supported by the math. That is a very low bar to clear.

It is astonishing to me that now these forums are populated by just as many anti-AP people, as people that enjoy winning and playing with an advantage, even part-time or recreationally. And these anti-APers are really bitter people. I haven't figured it out yet, whether they are all losing players bitter that some people use math to play with an advantage and win (longterm) or just what is going on, but these anti-APers are really angry dudes. You mentioned Singer....perfect example.

There are always the ones that come up with these next to impossible claims and then they attack those (mostly APs) that challenge the claims based on math. Vicious, personal attacks, just as you do. I call it the troll playbook. No matter how much you try to tear others down.....your math STILL DOESN"T WORK!
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:41:50 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I am sure they know by now that I am, as one of my bankers put it once, "just a gambler,"



Exactly! That is exactly what you are a -EV, losing gambler. Thanks for putting this to rest.

And by the way, there is nothing wrong with that, if you enjoy that activity.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:47:44 AM permalink
Like DarkOz, you love to "summarize" things your own way. If it makes you happy! but you know very well that my banker meant it in the context of, 'a legitimate casino patron' versus 'a money launderer.'

You just lose even more credibility when you seize on a few words, mischaracterize them and try to alter their meaning, the same way I see DarkOz doing frequently.



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Vicious, personal attacks, just as you do.


Whoa, whoa, when have I done that at WOV? Give examples, or withdraw that monstrous claim.
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December 6th, 2020 at 10:58:56 AM permalink
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Whoa, whoa, when have I done that at WOV? Give examples, or withdraw that monstrous claim.



I did not sat AT WOV.

Look these things aren't in a vacuum, as you yourself recently mentioned to me privately.
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December 6th, 2020 at 11:01:06 AM permalink
Didn't you just get suspended for something like that? Why would you try the patience of the powers that be again?
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December 6th, 2020 at 11:13:14 AM permalink
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Didn't you just get suspended for something like that? Why would you try the patience of the powers that be again?



I got suspended for saying I didn't believe your claims. You cried to Mike claiming I called you a liar, which I never did. Saying you don't believe someone is not calling them a liar. And since then, a number of people have said they don't believe your claims including Wizard, when he issued his latest challenge to you. I could have made a big deal saying if he suspended me for saying I don't believe he should suspend himself and others, but I didn't.

Just in case you forgot.

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December 6th, 2020 at 11:20:10 AM permalink
Now I sound like AxelWolf but - you're boring me. If you had something new and interesting to say along the lines of why you disbelieve, that would be something. Instead all you do is speculate, jump up and down, and say, "It cannot be." Well, your resident gambling expert and mathematician Teliot, among others, said, It can be. And I have provided more proof than anyone in the history of WOV to back up my claims. (By way of reference, you have provided zero, zilch, and in any case posted that you ended up in the red in 2020, at BJ anyway, lol, and gave up.) So if that's all you got, speculation, then you may just jump up and down at home alone, as the mere thought and image of all that jumping is distasteful to me.

Just the mere numbers you claim at BJ are a joke compared to my wins at BJ. I've won more at BJ in single sessions than you claim to make all year, grinding, in the years when you didn't say that you ended up in the red, that is. How come the master guy who supposedly may count cards at multiple tables at once can't book much of anything? If you figure living (room and board on your own nickel), travel expenses and per hour you put in, are you really even making much more than minimum wage? I am asking, not saying.
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December 6th, 2020 at 11:21:18 AM permalink
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Didn't you just get suspended for something like that? Why would you try the patience of the powers that be again?



And by the way, I have been banned from the leading blackjack forum for 7 years now, because I called someone out who's claims defied the math (and was later proven right by Don Schlesinger).

I served a 4 year ban here for fighting that same fight defending the math and challenging those who's claims deny it.

If you think for a second that I will not or stop challenging claims that defy math, you haven't been paying attention. It isn't personal with me. It is about the math. Claims that defy the math are going to be challenged by me.
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December 6th, 2020 at 1:15:46 PM permalink
Mdawg, a lot of what you say in completely factually incorrect. You would never know if they filed a str against you. You also would not know if they filed a ctr on you. Also why if you are so successful are you putting your claims on 213.71 forums. Who cares. You come across like a guy that has millions and takes his employees in his rolls Royce for dinner through the drive through at McDonald’s and then back to his mansion to eat. The funny thing is that tony heish (spelling) also suffered from the same thing. He just hired friends if his at double their salaries to be around him.
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December 6th, 2020 at 1:24:32 PM permalink
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Exactly! That is exactly what you are a -EV, losing gambler. Thanks for putting this to rest.

And by the way, there is nothing wrong with that, if you enjoy that activity.


If all gamblers lost, they would all stop gambling. Fortunately the math allows winners at some point.
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