Your opinions about the D please.
MOST IMPORTANT: Is it aimed at the younger crowd?
Also,
1) Who's considered a high, medium, and low roller so I know how generous they are with their comps.
2) The rooms you've stayed in and their quality. The D suite would be nice for free but it looks like it's more for bachelor parties.
3) The overall quality of the casino, especially if it's to smokey.
4) How does it compare to the GN?
5) Anything else you'd like to add.
Never mind Trip Advisor. Let's hear it please.
get the highest floor you can to avoid the noise
Quote: Lucca3927We're planning a trip next month downtown and we're looking at the D. Opinions are welcome especially about:
MOST IMPORTANT: Is it aimed at the younger crowd?
The noise downstairs certainly is, or perhaps a crowd of people who are not deaf, but would like to be.
Quote:Also,
1) Who's considered a high, medium, and low roller so I know how generous they are with their comps.
2) The rooms you've stayed in and their quality. The D suite would be nice for free but it looks like it's more for bachelor parties.
3) The overall quality of the casino, especially if it's to smokey.
4) How does it compare to the GN?
5) Anything else you'd like to add.
Never mind Trip Advisor. Let's hear it please.
1.) I'm definitely a very low-roller and I got follow-up room offers after staying there on a (mostly) comped hotel stay. Of course, the average room rate would have been less than $20 that particular stay, anyway, so it probably doesn't take much to get comped that. My follow-up offer was a free night for any night purchased, which made the room $11/night for that, as I recall.
2.) I've just stayed in the regular King room and the regular room with two beds (I think Queens). The rooms were aesthetically appealing, mostly with the red/black theme that you'll see throughout the casino. The rooms were also very clean my second time around. I'm thinking they had an off day the first time.
3.) I didn't think it too smoky, but I was a smoker at the time, so I prescribe a grain of salt with my opinion on that.
4.) I've never stayed at the GN. In general terms, I think I like The D much better. The cocktail service was a lot faster and more consistent at The D. That's where my priorities are when I'm in Vegas.
5.) Yes, please read my review:
https://wizardofvegas.com/hotels/d/
Golden Nugget is the nicest hotel and restaurants downtown but their gaming isn't great.
Quote: MaxPenThe guy who owns it is a snake.
Please elaborate. I had a high opinion of him.
Quote: ThatDonGuyNote that the D's elevators don't work like most do - instead, you select your floor, and then it tells you which elevator you need to enter. There are no floor buttons inside the elevators, as the one you enter already knows where you want to get off.
This is a far better system than the Flamingo’s elevators, which just don’t work at all.
Quote: DRichPlease elaborate. I had a high opinion of him.
I'm still pissed off when he intentionally diluted the value of a drawing drum that myself and a couple others controlled. He violated a few rules in the process of doing so.
Quote: mcallister3200Worst person to employees I have ever worked for, worked there six months. It’s almost an environment of fear.
I believe you, but I find that amazing. Something like that usually comes out in the customer service, and the service at The D is the best in Vegas, in my opinion.
There's only one place to stay downtown, and that's the Golden Nugget. Rush Tower is best and you have the back valet conveniently located near your hotel elevator.
I have nothing but bad things to say about the elevator situation. That alone might make it so that I never stay there again. I'm pretty sure they prioritized some floors.
You want a high room that isn't facing the FSE. Ear plugs won't save you, heavy bass goes until 2-3AM.
I found the customer service to be extremely prompt, cheerful, and helpful, especially on the hotel side (front desk, bell desk, valet)
One particular thing that happened was I had a bonus hand in PGM the dealer didn't want to pay. My hand included a joker in a royal, and the dealer insisted the hand had to be natural to win the bonus. I don't recall the paytable, but it was worth about $1000.
The dealer got snotty when I insisted the hand qualified, but I managed to get him to call in the night casino manager, who went and looked it up in the office, came back to the table, and made him pay me the bonus, which took about an hour, but I was satisfied they did the right thing about it, and the manager was very polite about apologizing for the delay and initial misinformation.
The rooms are basic, modern, very clean in my two stays.
The games were decent to good. Dealers were middling, mostly less experienced than the Strip. Most action I saw was red chip. Slots a mix of old and new, lots of pennies. Some table games can only be found there, like PaiGow Mania, and they put more new table games on the floor than most.
Crowd is much younger than the Strip, except Cosmo and PH, which are about the same.
I found their comps to be very low-roller generous. 1st 24 hours play is reimbursed to some decent amount, that play generated a year of comp nights, free play, free food, and free shows (their shows are small Old Vegas type shows) for me, along with special events like a superb owl party.
Food was OK in the 2nd floor cafe, good in the steakhouse, 24hr McDonald's on-site was a bit less good than average, but not bad.
I sure hope you are referring to the casino itself and not the hotel rooms. Its bad enough for a casino to give me a headache but elevator noises and corridor conversations at night are really bad for me.Quote: beachbumbabsThe D is extremely loud, painfully so. It will give you a throbbing headache.
>>>>>>>> but it was worth about $1000.
I think 500 or more in dispute will get you a gaming enforcement officer in plain clothes if you make the call. Reminding them of that might surely speed things up.
Quote: FleaStiffI sure hope you are referring to the casino itself and not the hotel rooms. Its bad enough for a casino to give me a headache but elevator noises and corridor conversations at night are really bad for me.
>>>>>>>> but it was worth about $1000.
I think 500 or more in dispute will get you a gaming enforcement officer in plain clothes if you make the call. Reminding them of that might surely speed things up.
Noise-wise, I'm only referring to the first floor of the casino, personally. The second floor was actually slightly subdued, by casino standards.
My understanding is that you can hear the music from the FSE if you're on the lower floors and that can be bothersome. I don't know if that's true or not, because:
1.) I could sleep through a college marching band and color guard holding a parade directly through my room.
2.) The FSE shows go until 1:00a.m. Su-Th, and 2:00a.m. Fri-Sat, so there's no way I'd have been back in my room that early to know if you could hear it or not.
Quote: FleaStiffI sure hope you are referring to the casino itself and not the hotel rooms. Its bad enough for a casino to give me a headache but elevator noises and corridor conversations at night are really bad for me.
>>>>>>>> but it was worth about $1000.
I think 500 or more in dispute will get you a gaming enforcement officer in plain clothes if you make the call. Reminding them of that might surely speed things up.
I'm referring to the casino itself. I did not have a noise issue in the rooms, though they were not tombs.
1) The noise isn't an issue because if you do even 30 seconds of research you should know that you're on top of the FSE so those complaints don't count in my opinion. Also, personally, I spent over a decade working around aircraft so I can sleep throughout most anything.
2) I usually bets 100/150 on BJ and, one way or another between the line and place bets, 300 per roll on the crap table so it sounds like I'd be on the higher end of the spectrum there.
3) Has anyone ever stayed in a corner king room or a D suite? Just wondering.
4), Also, just wondering, is the party pit only 6:5? I'll give up the game forever before I play that.
5) Not that it's a big thing, but I read that they have a banquet vip area but I can't find much on it. Just hunting for more info.
I'd rather stay at the GN but if I can't resolve what's pissing me off I might look elsewhere. It sounds like I'd be a big fish there but it's more about having to fight with customer service/host department than that. Hopefully it's better at the D.
Also, BTW, the strip is no longer an option because of a huge knee issue so all the walking is out of the question.
Quote: Lucca3927
1) The noise isn't an issue because if you do even 30 seconds of research you should know that you're on top of the FSE so those complaints don't count in my opinion. Also, personally, I spent over a decade working around aircraft so I can sleep throughout most anything.
I agree. Why's anyone in bed before 1:00a.m.?
Quote:2) I usually bets 100/150 on BJ and, one way or another between the line and place bets, 300 per roll on the crap table so it sounds like I'd be on the higher end of the spectrum there.
You wouldn't reach the bar, you would be the bar.
Quote:3) Has anyone ever stayed in a corner king room or a D suite? Just wondering.
Corner King, first time I stayed there. It has a refrigerator and a faux-leather sofa. Otherwise, not much different.
Quote:4), Also, just wondering, is the party pit only 6:5? I'll give up the game forever before I play that.
3:2 when I was there, I guess it could have changed since then.
Quote: Lucca3927I've always stayed at the GN downtown and I like it, and I think they value me, but I'm having a host issue right now and they're pissing me off so I'm debating another place. That being said (seeking more comments/opinions)
Get a new host or send your host a specific email, do not tolerate "issues". Its YOUR money they want. They can give you a pleasant time or a headache, but if they choose headache, you walk.
JBartoleme is lowest host on the GN ladder but often its the young 'eye candy' hosts that work the hardest for you.
>>>>>2) I usually bets 100/150 on BJ
>>>>>, 300 per roll on the crap table
High end for sure.
>>>>>4), Also, just wondering, is the party pit only 6:5?
>>>>>> I'll give up the game forever before I play that.
The Dancing Dealers still pay you 3:2 for a blackjack so I guess its the best of both worlds.
>>>>>because of a huge knee issue so all the walking is out of the question.
What about Sam'sTown on the Boulder Strip? Its the casino with the highest number of motorized carts in town. Lots of charging stations if you have your own mobility cart. Can usually sit at craps table unless actually shooting.
Quote: Mission146I agree. Why's anyone in bed before 1:00a.m.?
I will never understand you young whippersnappers.
My wife and I just returned from a ten day vacation and I am proud to say that one night we managed to stay up until 10pm.
Quote: DRichI will never understand you young whippersnappers.
My wife and I just returned from a ten day vacation and I am proud to say that one night we managed to stay up until 10pm.
Yep, I'm a 49 year old whippersnapper but I'm not so far over the hill that I wouldn't watch the dancing dealers if I go.
Quote: MrVI always make a point when in Las Vegas of strolling the strip late at night, when it is less crowded and the "night people" are on parade.
The right people?
The whores, the drunks, the dopers, the party crowd: those who come out to play when Ma and Pa Kettle head to bed.
Comparing daytime to night time is like comparing Iowa to Ibiza.
Quote: MrVNo, "night people."
The whores, the drunks, the dopers, the party crowd: those who come out ot play when Ma and Pa Kettle head to bed.
Comparing daytime to night time is like comparing Iowa to Ibiza.
Oops. Didn't read that right.
My personal favorite will always be the bum who was begging for money for booze/gambling and using his IPad while he waited for donations.
Quote: DRichI will never understand you young whippersnappers.
My wife and I just returned from a ten day vacation and I am proud to say that one night we managed to stay up until 10pm.
Given that I'll probably die before I'm seventy, I'm middle-aged!
Quote: mcallister3200The D and GG are all 3:2 BJ to their credit. Otherwise bad rules mostly, 8d, no surrender, no resplit aces. HL you can get 6d/DD with same rules I believe, you will mostly be playing alone in HL.
HL at The D is only 25$ (unless they hike it up when there's more than one person in there...), for what it's worth, so it's not exactly "threatening".
The dealers there are kind of iffy; one insisted that you had to match a matchplay exactly (first time that's ever happened to me there... or anywhere), and then claimed that 3red+5white is equal to 1green. Switching tables after that, I was killing time playing green in the main pit, down about 800 and not even finished with the first shoe, when I pull a BJ. And the dealer just stops for upwards of a minute, waiting for a tip, I guess. I just colored and left after playing The Waiting Game.
The FSE is loud enough to keep me awake until it ends (1AM, I think? It's been a while since I've stayed there), even when I'm on a higher floor. Also, the walls are pretty thin. A few months ago, I was privvy to some acting that wouldn't even merit a best effort mention at the AVN awards. It was actually pretty funny.
I think the best part about The D is that the McDonald's there is pretty reasonable about their price premiums, given the location, and they regularly get pretty good deals on their mobile app. On the other hand... McDonald's.
If the High Limit room is $25, its my kind of place, particularly since the best BJ rules are usually in the HL room.Quote: VenthusHL at The D is only 25$ (unless they hike it up when there's more than one person in there...), for what it's worth, so it's not exactly "threatening".
Now that right there would put the kibosh on the place for me. Restaurants, pretty girls, free beer, music, shows, .... so what? If the dealers don't know what they are doing or are going to try to force tips, nothing will make up for that. Nothing. And certainly not the same Quarter Pounder I can get anywhere anytime without any trek to Vegas.Quote: VenthusThe dealers there are kind of iffy; one insisted that you had to match a matchplay exactly and then claimed that 3red+5white is equal to 1green. ... when I pull a BJ. And the dealer just stops for upwards of a minute, waiting for a tip,.
Quote: Lucca3927We're planning a trip next month downtown and we're looking at the D. Opinions are welcome especially about:
MOST IMPORTANT: Is it aimed at the younger crowd?
That seems to be where the aim is but they hit a lot of older folks in the scatter.
Quote: Lucca39271) Who's considered a high, medium, and low roller so I know how generous they are with their comps.
High: $25 average bet.
Medium: $5 average bet.
Low: Derby player at quarter per race.
Quote: Lucca39272) The rooms you've stayed in and their quality. The D suite would be nice for free but it looks like it's more for bachelor parties.
I think when I stayed there it was still the Fitzgerald's. The room was small, furnishings were old, but decently clean.
Quote: Lucca39273) The overall quality of the casino, especially if it's to smokey.
This is an old property pretending to be new. It's smoky, loud, and definitely on the economy end.
Quote: Lucca39274) How does it compare to the GN?
Golden Nugget is much nicer.
Quote:5) Anything else you'd like to add.
If I were on a $100/day budget in Vegas, I'd probably be happy at the D. To be honest, I prefer sister property, the Golden Gate.
The D stands for Dump (or dismal, or depressing).
I walked around for half and hour. The dancing dealers all danced like they had metal pins in their hips and couldn't wait to get out of there.
It was pure smoke and their other claim to fame, the D bar, was just a long piece of wood.
Thank goodness for the GN.
Quote: Lucca3927I just got back from my trip last night and I'll answer my own post about the D:
The D stands for Dump (or dismal, or depressing).
I walked around for half and hour. The dancing dealers all danced like they had metal pins in their hips and couldn't wait to get out of there.
It was pure smoke and their other claim to fame, the D bar, was just a long piece of wood.
Thank goodness for the GN.
Casinos need to get rid of these dancers. They are all horrible. None of them want to be up there. The ones outside on Fremont on the bar near plaza are the worst.
Quote: GWAECasinos need to get rid of these dancers. They are all horrible. None of them want to be up there. The ones outside on Fremont on the bar near plaza are the worst.
I think they should take their tops off and let us put dollar bills in their panties.
Quote: DRichI think they should take their tops off and let us put dollar bills in their panties.
What's the EV on that?
Quote: TigerWuWhat's the EV on that?
I don't know, but the EV on carrying around some personal hand sanitizer would shoot way the hell up.
Quote: Mission146I don't know, but the EV on carrying around some personal hand sanitizer would shoot way the hell up.
I always carry around hand sanitizer on vacations anyway. Especially Vegas.
Quote: ontariodealeri had a bad day there and went to my room tired and hungry...... a hooker showed up at my door and said I'm here to give you some super sex......i said ill have the soup.
What was the soup of the day?
Quote: Mission146I agree. Why's anyone in bed before 1:00a.m.?
Old people like me visiting from the east coast
10pm in Vegas is 1am body clock time for us East coast visitors
Quote: terapinedOld people like me visiting from the east coast
10pm in Vegas is 1am body clock time for us East coast visitors
I live in Vegas and I doubt if I am up past 10pm five nights per year.
Once I hit my early 30's, "staying up late" just stopped happening. Especially when I'm drinking (which obviously happens in Vegas). I get two or three stiff drinks in me, and I need to go to bed.
3 card poker and Pai Gow poker at the same table
3 card played 1st which I never play
I just sit there while others play waiting for the rest of my cards so I can play Pai Gow
Kind of weird. Have not seen this done anywhere else
Quote: terapinedOne thing I noticed unusual about the D
3 card poker and Pai Gow poker at the same table
3 card played 1st which I never play
I just sit there while others play waiting for the rest of my cards so I can play Pai Gow
Kind of weird. Have not seen this done anywhere else
I’ve always thought 3CP/LiR would make sense.
Base Games
Pair Plus
Five Card Bonus
Progressive (5 Card Royal)
Six Card Side Bet
Anyway, players get the three cards and make the first LiR decision as well as the play/not play for 3CP. Dealer flips one card and final LiR decision is made. Dealer adjudicates all LiR base game payouts, five card bonus and five card progressive.
Next step, dealer flips last card and adjudicates 3CP payouts. Finally, six card side bet payouts.
It’d be slow, but if people liked it anyway, most players would play at least some of the side bets. Considering the LiR, with a $5 minimum Table, someone playing both base games and all of the side bets could be starting with $36 in total action on the table.
I think the only problem is that hitting or missing would be highly correlated, except maybe winning on the 3CP Ante if the dealer doesn’t qualify. Still, the player could conceivably lose every single bet...probably not even all that unlikely...
Quote: terapinedOne thing I noticed unusual about the D
3 card poker and Pai Gow poker at the same table
3 card played 1st which I never play
I just sit there while others play waiting for the rest of my cards so I can play Pai Gow
Kind of weird. Have not seen this done anywhere else
It's called PaiGow Mania. I played it at Trump Marina once, and Harrah's KC a couple times. Both took it out. I play it when I'm downtown because I think it's a brilliant combination.
The top hand on the Fortune (not called that for TM reasons, but same concept) is 5 Aces, at 1000:1. When I went to play it at HKC, they told me the hand had hit twice in 12 days. They were way upside down on the game at that point, decided the math was flawed, and took it out.
I can't remember who distributed it, might even have been the inventor, but it never got very many installs.
