what % does a player push the dealer in a regular blackjack?
May 25th, 2012 at 6:02:41 PM
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Need math help. Where can I find the % that a player pushes the dealer, for 1 deck, 2 deck, 6 and 8 deck regular BJ games. Thanks in advance.
May 25th, 2012 at 6:51:43 PM
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The Wizard has some of the pushes that you mentioned - I'm not sure if there is a more comprehensive list. Go to:-
https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/
to give you a general idea.
https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/rule-variations/
to give you a general idea.
May 27th, 2012 at 10:33:30 AM
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The push rate is somewhere around 8-9%.
May 27th, 2012 at 11:50:42 AM
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6 decks can be found hereQuote: UCivanNeed math help.
Where can I find the % that a player pushes the dealer, for 1 deck, 2 deck, 6 and 8 deck regular BJ games.
Standard deviation in blackjack
8.48%
and here (added)
Standard deviation in blackjack-6deck-no-surrender
8.78%
I have not seen numbers for the others. Probably close.
Maybe qfit has some data
I would start here
qfit ebook blackjack
Let us know if you find the info
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
May 31st, 2012 at 8:30:45 AM
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The push rate is not 8%-9%. Most push side bets pay 10-1 so obviously they would not pay at a loss. I believe a push occurs about 11% of the time.
ZCore13
ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:36:01 AM
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See Standard deviation in blackjack. To be exact, 0.084787, or 8.4787%Quote: 7craps6 decks can be found here
Standard deviation in blackjack
I have not seen numbers for the others. Probably close.
Maybe qfit has some data
I would start here
qfit ebook blackjack
Let us know if you find the info
May 31st, 2012 at 8:37:59 AM
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Quote: Zcore13The push rate is not 8%-9%. Most push side bets pay 10-1 so obviously they would not pay at a loss. I believe a push occurs about 11% of the time.
I think you have your logic backwards. With a 10-to-1 payoff for a push:
If the push rate is 8% the house edge is 12%
If the push rate is 9% the house edge is 1%
If the push rate is 11% the player edge is 21%
May 31st, 2012 at 8:46:24 AM
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Also, with a 10-1 side bet payout (of half your primary bet), you'd change your strategy optimally, lowering the House Edge. At least - I remember reading something on the subject. The strategy changes basically come down to more aggressive hitting on some plays, to give you a better chance at being between 17-21, which the dealer has to get to tie you.
May 31st, 2012 at 8:51:41 AM
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When a side bet calls for a change of play strategy, this side bet is most likely to be DOA. No casino operator wants to mess with player's change of play strategy.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:03:39 AM
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Now that I think about it - you could probably count that side bet, or more simply, use whatever count you want, because more ties occur in higher counts.
May 31st, 2012 at 9:08:03 AM
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Quote: JBI think you have your logic backwards. With a 10-to-1 payoff for a push:
If the push rate is 8% the house edge is 12%
If the push rate is 9% the house edge is 1%
If the push rate is 11% the player edge is 21%
JB
You are correct. I was going the wrong way. 9% is probably correct.
ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
June 1st, 2012 at 11:26:43 AM
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The figure should be slighly lower than the 8.78% quoted in Wizzard's sims for Net win = 0.
Net Win=0 would include in addition to pushes cases where you split and one hand wins and the other loses and also additional situations in more than 1 splits.
Net Win=0 would include in addition to pushes cases where you split and one hand wins and the other loses and also additional situations in more than 1 splits.
