Ultimate texas holdem question
April 7th, 2012 at 1:42:44 PM
permalink
I was trying your new Ultimate practice game,and had the following hand.
Kc 4d I checked which is correct .
then flop came Jd Td 8d
It says to check is the best play,but according to discount gambling and another source you should raise with this flop.
Which is correct?
Kc 4d I checked which is correct .
then flop came Jd Td 8d
It says to check is the best play,but according to discount gambling and another source you should raise with this flop.
Which is correct?
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
April 7th, 2012 at 1:50:12 PM
permalink
Personally, there are times I might raise with that, but I've gotta agree with the Wizard on this one. You've got nothing but a draw, and IF that 4th diamond comes it would probably be higher that yours. You also need to consider the pair or straight possibilities that the dealer/computer might have.
April 7th, 2012 at 1:57:35 PM
permalink
In the Wizard's game the program never varies from comparing the EV of each choice. That seems more reliable than a written system, which has proved difficult for this game and also could not possibly include every single exception, penalty card things and so on.
I guess it is possible the EV calculator could have an error, but in general I would think the Wizard's game trumps any written strategy you might come across.
I guess it is possible the EV calculator could have an error, but in general I would think the Wizard's game trumps any written strategy you might come across.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
April 7th, 2012 at 2:07:13 PM
permalink
Checking is the correct play. The game offers perfect-strategy advice, which is incredibly difficult to put in writing without having tons of exceptions.
April 7th, 2012 at 2:20:06 PM
permalink
O.K thanks for the response.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
April 7th, 2012 at 2:23:25 PM
permalink
I don't think dg.net advises you to raise on that hand. He says you need 5th nut flush draw and 3rd nut kicker to bet a flush draw on a suited flop. The king is a sufficient kicker, but the 4 is not a high enough flush card.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
April 7th, 2012 at 2:34:09 PM
permalink
I thought DG.net said bet 4th,5th,or6th nut with 3rd kicker.Am I reading it wrong. so the 4d in my example would be the 6th nut and the king would be the 2nd kicker?
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
April 7th, 2012 at 3:04:46 PM
permalink
4d is 8th nut flush with 3 higher diamonds on the board. (A, K, Q, 9, 7, 6, 5, 4).Quote: HunterhillI thought DG.net said bet 4th,5th,or6th nut with 3rd kicker.Am I reading it wrong. so the 4d in my example would be the 6th nut and the king would be the 2nd kicker?
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
April 7th, 2012 at 3:34:10 PM
permalink
O.K but he says bet 8th nut with 2nd kicker which the king is,so he still advises to bet2x with this,correct?
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.
