DrEntropy
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July 16th, 2011 at 11:03:47 PM permalink
I noticed tonight that the M Resort has a single zero roulette table on the main floor at a $10 limit. I don't know any other casino in the greater Las Vegas area that offers a single zero roulette at low limits like this. (I don't know if it is European roulette, I didn't ask and I did not see a zero come up while I observed). Unsurprisingly, plenty of players were playing $10 on the regular 0-00 tables while there was lots of room at this single zero table. In any event, if you want to play roulette. this is a great bargain.. are there any others at low limits in the area that I don't know about?

NB: The wizards survey mentions European roulette at the M, but I had always assumed this was in the high limit room.
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July 17th, 2011 at 12:27:58 AM permalink
This is great news! I happen to love roulette and would play it a lot more if the house edge was lower!
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July 17th, 2011 at 12:29:07 AM permalink
Do they have la partage or en prison on the even-money bets?
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July 17th, 2011 at 10:36:26 AM permalink
Did the layout include the call bet racetrack?
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July 17th, 2011 at 10:52:23 AM permalink
Quote: heather

Did the layout include the call bet racetrack?


Yes it did.
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July 17th, 2011 at 12:46:00 PM permalink
Quote: DrEntropy

Yes it did.



BTW how do you use that racetrack? Is it just to illustrate what you can do? Do you put bets down near it? Or is it for the dealer to track called bets?

PS: I misspelled roulette in the title of this thread... perhaps a mod can fix it ;)
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July 17th, 2011 at 1:24:55 PM permalink
Quote: DrEntropy

BTW how do you use that racetrack? Is it just to illustrate what you can do? Do you put bets down near it? Or is it for the dealer to track called bets?

PS: I misspelled roulette in the title of this thread... perhaps a mod can fix it ;)



Well the one and only time I have played on a "European table". You placed your "call bets" on the racetrack itself. Not on the numbers of course but in the center. If you look at the racetrack it will be divided into 3 sections in the middle of the racetrack "Voisins du Zero"(bets were placed in multiples of 17) and "Tiers du Cylindre"(bets placed in multiples of 12) and "Orphelins"(bets placed in multiples of 8). I never used it but it was getting a lot of use from other players at the table. I'm not a huge roulette fan but when I play I bet red, black or even, odd for the most part! I'm not into betting sections of the wheel. Which is what a "called bet" is. Plus I think the racetrack can be a visual aid to someone who wants to cover a smaller or different section of the wheel than the 3 traditional "call bets". But this may have been just the place I was playing
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July 17th, 2011 at 1:32:21 PM permalink
Quote: vert1276

"Voisins du Zero"(bets were placed in multiples of 17) and "Tiers du Cylindre"(bets placed in multiples of 12) and "Orphelins"(bets placed in multiples of 8).



I'm used to 9/6/5 (here's a chart), but otherwise what you're describing is what I'm used to. You place your chips in the appropriate area of the racetrack in the appropriate multiple. Personally, I like betting on sections of the wheel because I think it's fun to watch the ball settling in that area, so I like the racetrack. Awesome that they have it there.
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July 17th, 2011 at 1:40:07 PM permalink
Quote: heather

I'm used to 9/6/5, but otherwise what you're describing is what I'm used to. You place your chips in the appropriate area of the racetrack in the appropriate multiple. Personally, I like betting on sections of the wheel because I think it's fun to watch the ball settling in that area, so I like the racetrack. Awesome that they have it there.



Ya you are right now that I think about it...It was in multiples of 9/6/5. I think the numbers it covered in totals of 17/12/8. I played for a long time at the table and had some guy explain it to me in depth so I remember most of it. But Ya, thinking back I'm sure you are right it was in multiples of 9/6/5
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July 17th, 2011 at 4:26:05 PM permalink
Quote: DrEntropy

I noticed tonight that the M Resort has a single zero roulette table on the main floor at a $10 limit. I don't know any other casino in the greater Las Vegas area that offers a single zero roulette at low limits like this.



If they got a crowd, I bet they'd raise it. Most players don't trust single zero, they think it will screw them somehow. Ignorance is bliss.
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July 17th, 2011 at 5:06:57 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If they got a crowd, I bet they'd raise it. Most players don't trust single zero, they think it will screw them somehow. Ignorance is bliss.

I think the M Resort aims for a more upscale crowd and there would probably be a bit less ignorance at the M Resort than elsewhere.
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July 23rd, 2011 at 9:07:05 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If they got a crowd, I bet they'd raise it. Most players don't trust single zero, they think it will screw them somehow. Ignorance is bliss.




(lol)....I did a thread on this a while back. I asked if a 0 and 00 table were next to each other with the SAME min bet, which would you play? Yep, most would play the 00 wheel. WOW......not really sure what to say?

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July 23rd, 2011 at 9:46:21 PM permalink
Lots of people like betting on the zeros, they call them
the 'casinos numbers' and feel like they really accomplished
something when they win, like they somehow 'beat' the
casino at its own game. You can try and explain the truth
and they act like you have a smelly dog turd on the sole
of your shoe. Just laugh at them, its for the best.

If you have an airball setup, where they have 8 to 12
players, watch the electronic board for awhile and see how many
people bet the zeros on every spin. Some people bet
them every single time, and when they win, they hoot
and holler and high five each other. Even though it cost
them $48 to win the $35 on the zero.
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