Break even for this table game $500 progressive
July 9th, 2026 at 8:45:17 AM
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Game is ultimate Texas hold em.
Flopped Quads and above get to spin electronic cash wheel with prizes $1500, $1750, or up to 100% of either the Mega or ultra.
For quads I've always only seen either 1500 or 1750. (Negligible sample size)
It's $5/hand To play the Progressives.
$10 moves the bottom progressive $0.05.
So $500 moves the bottom Progressive $2.50, thus going only by the progressive, break even is $495.
Obviously it's lower if you factor in the payouts for trips to full house.
Ignoring The Progressive payouts for quads and above, What's the break even to play the $500 must hit?
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Jul 9, 2026
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
July 9th, 2026 at 8:56:43 AM
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Interesting! Something I don’t understand here. If you flop a Royal flush, do you get the ultra jackpot? Or, you get a chance to spin the wheel?
July 9th, 2026 at 9:22:25 AM
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I think we need information about the wheel to solve this. Fortunately, this information can often be found in Nevada state documents about progressive rules
Edit: It seems like the three cash spin wheels that you get from Quads/SF/RF are actually different wheels. Can't find the info on them yet tho
Edit 2: I think it's not fair when these digital cash wheels don't have their mechanics public. to me, transparency is what separates table games from slot machines
Edit: It seems like the three cash spin wheels that you get from Quads/SF/RF are actually different wheels. Can't find the info on them yet tho
Edit 2: I think it's not fair when these digital cash wheels don't have their mechanics public. to me, transparency is what separates table games from slot machines
July 9th, 2026 at 9:34:54 AM
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Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
July 9th, 2026 at 9:37:00 AM
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no, not guaranteed to get 100% of ultra.Quote: acesideInteresting! Something I don’t understand here. If you flop a Royal flush, do you get the ultra jackpot? Or, you get a chance to spin the wheel?
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I'm going to assume you get up to 100% of ultra, skewing to high %
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
July 9th, 2026 at 9:54:29 AM
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Flopping a Royal flush is a once in a lifetime event. Flopping a straight flush is only nine times more often than that. To put these two events on par with a flopped quads is ridiculous. I only had one flopped straight flush so far.
July 9th, 2026 at 10:10:06 AM
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Quote: acesideFlopping a Royal flush is a once in a lifetime event. Flopping a straight flush is only nine times more often than that. To put these two events on par with a flopped quads is ridiculous. I only had one flopped straight flush so far.
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That's why they use different wheels (without telling you)
July 9th, 2026 at 10:23:53 AM
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the different "wheels" are in the rules.
https://www.gaming.nv.gov/contentassets/3a632692f87340bf9890a9784fd3f1aa/multi-game-link-progressive-cash-spin.pdf
https://www.gaming.nv.gov/contentassets/3a632692f87340bf9890a9784fd3f1aa/multi-game-link-progressive-cash-spin.pdf
July 9th, 2026 at 10:43:20 AM
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yeah, I just meant that the individual wheels' probabilities themselves aren't shown in this document
I have seen the probabilities in other documents before
I have seen the probabilities in other documents before
July 9th, 2026 at 12:46:48 PM
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I saw a video last night for a $5 bet on a wheel for 3 Card Poker. I didn't see the wheel, or a winning hand to spin the wheel.
July 9th, 2026 at 2:58:01 PM
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Quote: harris
Here is an example of a document describing a weighted wheel
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I have never seen a table like this where the weight says variable.
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