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bogdanm
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January 17th, 2022 at 5:30:09 PM permalink
Hello all,

Maybe I can get an answer here. I`m thinking of purchasing [redacted] Baccarat System what do you guys think does it work is it any good or is it just a scam. I like the fact that they have emailed testimonials but I don`t like the fact that they don`t offer a 30 day money-back guarantee. So any thoughts?
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January 17th, 2022 at 6:45:45 PM permalink
Based on approximately 9 seconds of research, I have no reason to believe that this system will offer statistically better results than always betting on banker.

My assessment is based on phrases like "reveal the cards" and "predictor system".
May the cards fall in your favor.
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January 17th, 2022 at 6:56:58 PM permalink
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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
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January 18th, 2022 at 1:28:01 AM permalink
Quote: bogdanm

Hello all,

Maybe I can get an answer here. I`m thinking of purchasing [redacted] Baccarat System what do you guys think does it work is it any good or is it just a scam. I like the fact that they have emailed testimonials but I don`t like the fact that they don`t offer a 30 day money-back guarantee. So any thoughts?
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The only one making money out baccarat systems is baccarat system sellers.... And they're not making that money playing Baccarat, but by selling snake oil to idiots.

No system beats baccarat, roulette, or any casino games.
Card counting can gain a TINY edge on blackjack but that is an incredibly hard way to make money, and needs serious bankroll and commitment to achieve.

Give it up, dude. Stop gambling.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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January 18th, 2022 at 6:03:51 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Based on approximately 9 seconds of research, I have no reason to believe that this system will offer statistically better results than always betting on banker.

My assessment is based on phrases like "reveal the cards" and "predictor system".
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What did you do with the other eight seconds?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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January 18th, 2022 at 6:07:59 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Quote: Dieter

Based on approximately 9 seconds of research, I have no reason to believe that this system will offer statistically better results than always betting on banker.

My assessment is based on phrases like "reveal the cards" and "predictor system".
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What did you do with the other eight seconds?
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I type slowly.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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January 18th, 2022 at 6:23:23 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: bogdanm

Hello all,

Maybe I can get an answer here. I`m thinking of purchasing [redacted] Baccarat System what do you guys think does it work is it any good or is it just a scam. I like the fact that they have emailed testimonials but I don`t like the fact that they don`t offer a 30 day money-back guarantee. So any thoughts?
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The only one making money out baccarat systems is baccarat system sellers.... And they're not making that money playing Baccarat, but by selling snake oil to idiots.
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Maybe there should be a thread about how to sell gambling systems instead of playing them. At least someone can make money from that.
There's no secret. Just know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.
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January 18th, 2022 at 7:32:05 AM permalink
There was a guy in AC that used to teach you how to beat the casinos in blackjack. For about $600 over the course of three days he would revel you with stories of his wins, show photos of the many houses he bought with his winnings, and finally on day three he would give you his secret sauce.
I'll save you the $600.
The secret to winning at BJ is to find a table with dirty ashtrays.
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bogdanm
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January 18th, 2022 at 8:12:42 AM permalink
This system is about Baccarat but i do get where you are going with it
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January 18th, 2022 at 8:36:34 AM permalink
I would never pay for a baccarat system.

Not because they do not work, but there is so much free information in the "Betting Systems" part of this forum that shows how easy it is.

The best threads are hidden, but the secret is there and it's free!
OnceDear
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January 18th, 2022 at 9:12:27 AM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

I would never pay for a baccarat system.

Not because they do not work, but there is so much free information in the "Betting Systems" part of this forum that shows how easy it is.

The best threads are hidden, but the secret is there and it's free!
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Mwalz, you are a most mischievous soul !

bogdanm, may I bring you up to speed on Mwalz's little joke?

There are two members here who constantly regale us with their claims of effortlessly and consistently beating THRASHING casinos for hundreds of thousands of dollars at baccarat. We don't ban them, because they are not selling any systems and they do post within the rules. There is no rule that says that you, yourself cannot also post that you, too found the Holy Grail. You won't be believed any more than they are, but we won't call you a liar, because we are polite like that.

They and their fantastical trip reports are not hard to find, not even the hidden one.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
bogdanm
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January 18th, 2022 at 9:18:38 AM permalink
Oh ok i SEE so those guys are just making fun of people that need money fast and dont Ruin a guys dram Even though ITS bad FOR him.
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January 18th, 2022 at 10:44:37 AM permalink
I'm curious to see when someone will question the disparity of the opening post versus the last and the motive.
I'm surprised sUmeone hasn'ted KomMented Sounner/!
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January 18th, 2022 at 10:48:48 AM permalink
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Oh ok i SEE so those guys are just making fun of people that need money fast and dont Ruin a guys dram Even though ITS bad FOR him.
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I could not comment on their motivation. But their threads got controversial, with so many respected members getting suspended for insulting them while expressing disbelief. You see, our rules here do not allow us to call each-other liars.
If you want to read and believe that anyone can beat baccarat or show you how to beat baccarat, then the internet and youtube will serve your need. Caveat emptor.
There is NO system to beat Baccarat. None to beat roulette, and no worthwhile system to beat any casino table game.

There ARE ways to take money off casinos legitimately, and these are called 'advantage plays' Those who exploit such plays are called advantage players and many here fit that category.
Advantage plays are mostly kept quiet and very VERY often involve exploiting some sort of generous marketing offer.
E.g, A casino MIGHT offer a ten percent loss rebate or a sign up bonus for new members and they might have a loophole where they give away more than they intend to, or get the maths wrong in a way that can be exploited.
As someone said earlier. Don't try to beat the game. Beat the casino.

But for you, who has lost money gambling, I advise calling it quits and make money by easier, traditional means. I say that as one who has seen gamblers thinking they are being smart, exploiting some petty advantage, while simply getting addicted to gambling. Easy to get sucked in.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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January 18th, 2022 at 10:58:33 AM permalink
Quote: cwwbjr

I'm curious to see when someone will question the disparity of the opening post versus the last and the motive.
I'm surprised sUmeone hasn'ted KomMented Sounner/!
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Too subtle for me.
I suspect the original post was surreptitiously trying to promote the system he named. Hence I redacted that name.

For now, I'm taking the new member at face value. Trying to second guess motivation is not always worthwhile. If we have a genuine newbie seeking a winning system, then he has had advice which he takes or leaves.

UKMS? Nope. went whoosh over my head..
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
bogdanm
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January 18th, 2022 at 11:08:11 AM permalink
What are some good threads to look at here that will make you intro an advantage player it`s a dream of mine to become one can you point me in the right direction. And will these advices for becoming an advantage player work on online casinos as I have no real casino where I live.
bogdanm
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January 18th, 2022 at 11:10:04 AM permalink
No I`m not promoting any systesm. I just found it onver the internet and I thought that baccarat can be beaten. I thought there arent scams because they are not worthwhile as baccarat is not so popular like poker for example. SO I thought they were for real.
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January 18th, 2022 at 12:12:03 PM permalink
Quote: bogdanm

What are some good threads to look at here that will make you intro an advantage player it`s a dream of mine to become one can you point me in the right direction. And will these advices for becoming an advantage player work on online casinos as I have no real casino where I live.
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I'll PM you a hint.
Online casinos can throw up some good advantage plays. But it's a wild wild west with issues in US legislation and with some crooked gaffs. All online casinos have a rule that basically says "If we decide not to pay you, then we wont" And most offer sign up bonuses with tiny tiny small print. Caveat emptor.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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January 18th, 2022 at 12:26:23 PM permalink
Quote: bogdanm

No I`m not promoting any systesm. I just found it onver the internet and I thought that baccarat can be beaten. I thought there arent scams because they are not worthwhile as baccarat is not so popular like poker for example. SO I thought they were for real.
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You need to also do your research over the internet on why you can't beat baccarat. You have to be able to separate the difference between betting systems and legitimate Advantage Play methods. It's a simple concept, if there's no math that confirms you have an advantage, then you should run the other way. It might get a little difficult separating everything since there are legitimate reports in the mainstream media about guys who are/were beating the casinos, leaving an opening for the fraudsters to capitalize.

As has already been pointed out, there are very few casino games that will give the player a mathematical advantage from the game itself. There are a few games like Full Pay Video Poker, advantageous banking/variable state slots, and various other legitimate methods, such as card counting, where there's a clear understanding backed up by math as to why you have an advantage.

Any and all games in the casino can be used to beat the >CASINO< (not the games themselves)given the right circumstances via the marketing department and promotions.

As far as playing online, all the same, holds true, NO BETTING SYSTEMS WILL GIVE YOU AN ADVANTAGE.

Playing online can present some good advantageous opportunities through promotions and various other things, but playing online also presents some major pitfalls, headaches, and problems.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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