Mikey75
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August 25th, 2021 at 7:31:55 AM permalink
How accurate are the display boards that display the recently rolled numbers and would it be possible to determine a biased wheel based on the results of the board?

I recently spent seven days playing roulette at a casino that had two tables. During the seven days black rolled heavily on both tables. Percentage for the last 300 rolls consistently stayed at 51 or 52% on black for the entire week. I kept expecting it to change and level out some but it didnít for the entire week. What are the odds of that happening for a entire week on two wheels running side by side?
Dieter
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August 25th, 2021 at 7:49:52 AM permalink
I consider them "for entertainment purposes only".

Errors happen regularly.
May the cards fall in your favor.
ThatDonGuy
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August 25th, 2021 at 8:05:29 AM permalink
While there are photos of boards showing runs of zeroes, I assume that, for the most part, they are accurate. However, they never have enough numbers to be able to determine bias with any remote degree of certainty.
Keep in mind that writing down numbers that come up in roulette is one of the two things you are legally allowed to keep track of (with pen and paper - not, say, on your cellphone; the other one is, cards in baccarat).

52% black in 300 spins is hardly a sign of bias - especially if the numbers are fairly evenly distributed. You need to track specific numbers to detect bias.
My statisics is a little rusty, but if I am calculating this correctly, the standard deviation of black in 300 spins = sqrt(300 - 1) x sqrt(9/19 x (1 - 9/19)^2 + 10/19 x (0 - 9/19)^2) = sqrt(299 x 180 / 361) = about 12.21.
52% black is 156 out of 300 spins, which is about 14 spins above the mean, or 14 / 12.21 = 1.147 standard deviations, which happens 1/8 of the time.
EvenBob
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August 25th, 2021 at 10:36:11 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I consider them "for entertainment purposes only".

Errors happen regularly.



It's not the board that is faulty, it's the
camera on the wheel. I would guess
that 1 out of 10 wheels have a camera
that messes up sometimes.

On a side note, I have discovered by
accident that I no longer need to use
a pencil and paper to write down
results in a casino. I have played so
many thousands of sessions at home
that I see the what I need to see just
by looking at the tote board. This is a
huge deal for me. If the pit sees you
winning and making notes they will
often ask to see the notes or come
and stand behind me to try and read
them. No notes, no suspicion. They
know roulette can't be beat but they
really don't believe it.

I was laying in bed a couple weeks
ago playing at Bovada and didn't
feel like writing anything down. I
discovered I didn't need to. Holy
crap.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
AxelWolf
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:24:11 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob



I was laying in bed a couple weeks
ago playing at Bovada and didn't
feel like writing anything down. I
discovered I didn't need to. Holy
crap.

And here I have been claiming it's not a legit winning method.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MDawg
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:28:29 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If the pit sees you
winning and making notes they will
often ask to see the notes or come
and stand behind me to try and read
them.


Interesting because the casinos encourage Baccarat players to write down results and could care less what we write.

I do recall that at one Blackjack tournament some jerk player was trying to claim that I could not write down the final chip tallies before the final round bet, but in most tournaments I have been in, they hand out pen and paper just for us to write all that down going into the final stretch.
I tell you itís wonderful to be here, man. I donít give a damn who wins or loses. Itís just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
EvenBob
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August 25th, 2021 at 12:27:14 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Interesting because the casinos encourage Baccarat players to write down results and could care less what we write.



That's because so many bac players do it. You are allowed to do it in roulette but virtually nobody does. I can't remember the last time I saw somebody else taking notes. It takes a very specific pit person to care. Some Boy Scout who wants a feather in his cap. Most of them don't care, all they're thinking about is their next break.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
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August 25th, 2021 at 1:13:40 PM permalink
Iíve seen people writing down results at the craps table (never in Vegas though).
Itís all about making that GTA
lilredrooster
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August 25th, 2021 at 1:30:21 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob


𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙄 𝙨𝙚𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙬𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙄 𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙙 𝙩𝙤 𝙨𝙚𝙚 just 𝙗𝙮 𝙡𝙤𝙤𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙩𝙤𝙩𝙚 𝙗𝙤𝙖𝙧𝙙. This is a
huge deal for me. If the pit sees you
winning and making notes they will
often ask to see the notes or come
and stand behind me to try and read
them. No notes, no suspicion.

I was laying in bed a couple weeks
ago playing at Bovada and didn't
feel like writing anything down. I
discovered I didn't need to. 𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙮 𝙘𝙧𝙖𝙥.




𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙮 𝙘𝙧𝙖𝙥 you're talking about the 𝙃𝙤𝙡𝙮 𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙡

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.
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EvenBob
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August 25th, 2021 at 3:14:54 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster


𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙚𝙚𝙨 𝙬𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙝𝙚 𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙙𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙨𝙚𝙚 just 𝙗𝙮 𝙡𝙤𝙤𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙩𝙤𝙩𝙚 𝙗𝙤𝙖𝙧𝙙.



This has always been true, duh. I just don't have to write it down now. Fortune-telling and telepathy have nothing to do with it. Past results leave a clear trail where the near future is going. And please don't bother with any of the platitudes about how roulette works, I've heard them all a million times. Please don't waste your time telling me past results are useless. Thanks..
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal

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