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SOOPOO
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May 12th, 2020 at 9:42:39 AM permalink
casinos won't be alone in the "I caught the virus at the casino....". In a previous post, I mentioned my sister runs a summer camp. Her question.... We were allowed to open and followed all state/federal/local requirements. One kid tests positive. Do we have to close the entire camp now? Do we have to pay the 400 employees as we refund the campers? Can we re-open after 7 days? 14 days? 1 day? I'm sure casinos have the same concerns.
billryan
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May 12th, 2020 at 10:13:28 AM permalink
South Korea closed all its bars and nightclubs a week after they were allowed to reopen when forty plus cases were traced to a single person who visited a few clubs while asymptomatic.
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May 12th, 2020 at 10:24:54 AM permalink
Iím pretty skeptical about the accuracy, or lack thereof, of the potential of contact tracing in the US when itís as widespread as it already is and will be more widespread when they project theyíll able to do it. Yeah I know they can track cell phones. If itís narrowing it down to multiple possible places will it accomplish much, or if it really accomplished much once weíve reached this point even if it is accurate. Canít see a lot unless youíre in the camp that wants to hold people criminally liable for unknowingly spreading. I think itís a fantasy to think itíll be effective here at this point and probably has been past that for a month and a half already. Some methods also seem legally questionable at best.

We have roughly 20x the cases per capita of South Korea at this point. We have over 2x as much tests per capita now as them, but with them having so many fewer cases thatís a misleading way to look at it.
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ChumpChange
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May 12th, 2020 at 10:44:40 AM permalink
Maybe one or two casinos could open for Las Vegas residents only, the rest stay shut.
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May 12th, 2020 at 1:16:20 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Maybe one or two casinos could open for Las Vegas residents only, the rest stay shut.

no, the rest go bankrupt.
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May 12th, 2020 at 1:46:42 PM permalink
Probably not. However having no more than 3 players at a table game is attractive. I hate full tables, too crowded and game goes too slow. If they ban smoking, my answer will be leaning towards yes.

Don't be surprised to see more liberal rules for those who want to play more than one hand. But again if you have a the partition, that may prevent you from playing 2 hands unless each seat has 2 spots to play.
michael99000
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May 12th, 2020 at 2:37:30 PM permalink
Whatís happening is the social aspect of gambling is being completely eliminated. Masks, plexiglass barriers, limited number of customers at tables, distancing of machines. For those who enjoyed that aspect, casinos will likely not be anywhere near as fun.

Iíve sat at many blackjack tables where a husband played while his wife or mistress sat next to him watching. How does that work now? Do both have to squeeze into one plexiglass section? And in roullette with only 3 players allowed at a table at a time, is that 3 people playing , or does a couple where one is a bystander watching the other count as 1 person
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May 12th, 2020 at 2:41:03 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Probably not. However having no more than 3 players at a table game is attractive. I hate full tables, too crowded and game goes too slow. If they ban smoking, my answer will be leaning towards yes.



Again, three people at a craps table = three people betting. Even though there is one person throwing the dice, EVERYONE around the table is betting. How many people could physically stand around a table before this all started? 10? 15? Every single one of them was betting. So now the MOST number of bets on a single toss is going to be... THREE!

So now there will be FOUR staff working the table, taking in just THREE wagers per toss, whereas in the past there were 10 or 15 wagers out there. They will still need one stick, one guy sitting on the rack, and STILL two people placing the bets on each side of the rack, since at a 6-foot minimum spread, the three players will need to be spaced across the entire length of the table. Financially, this is not going to be feasibile.

As far as outbreaks being unique to casinos, there are states with only one or two casinos (e.g. Rhode Island), so any outbreak that can be traced to a casino will be easily determined in those states. Why are casino owners/managers any different, any more willing to bend the rules and look the other way, any less eager to be profitable, than restaurants?

No business exists to be safe. They exist to be profitable, and if being safe works out in the bargain, then fine. All of these highly-advertised new policies are not meant to keep you safe. They are intended first and foremost to get you in the door, and for sure, in THEIR door and NOT the door across the street.

Have you ever worked in a restaurant? Do you honestly think that the back of the house in a restaurant is the sterile, safe, germ- bacteria- virus- free environment called for in the regulations? When the new pizza ad you see on television now touts that your pizza is being made "contact-free", do you believe it? Does a restaurant look closely at the 'sell-by' dates on the ingredients that go into your meal? They do? No, they don't.

Profit will drive casinos no more or less than any other business. And it's first on the list of what matters most.
Vegasrider
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May 12th, 2020 at 4:13:01 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Whatís happening is the social aspect of gambling is being completely eliminated. L



I don't go to the casino to socialize, I'm there to win. I really don't talk to anyone when I play. I try to stay focused picking up any info that I can.
DeMango
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May 12th, 2020 at 4:50:16 PM permalink
Quote: racquet

Again, three people at a craps table = three people betting. Even though there is one person throwing the dice, EVERYONE around the table is betting. How many people could physically stand around a table before this all started? 10? 15? Every single one of them was betting. So now the MOST number of bets on a single toss is going to be... THREE!



Again, three people per side. SIX!
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May 12th, 2020 at 5:15:47 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

I don't go to the casino to socialize, I'm there to win. I really don't talk to anyone when I play. I try to stay focused picking up any info that I can.


I really donít either. If Iím with a friend and we are both playing bubble craps or blackjack ....obviously we will converse. Iím not really there to engage much conversation other than basic pleasantries with other players.

I try and focus on play. The few times I have talked to people who talked to me....it was as if this person hasnít had human contact in 6 years.

The guidelines really arenít a problem for me as Iím more interested in bubble craps and play solo....but for groups or family members that come to Vegas and want to play together and have fun....the social atmosphere will take a hit with corona.
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May 12th, 2020 at 5:21:40 PM permalink
Quote: TinMan

I voted yes. I would play at a table like that, but I think it's overkill. If everyone is wearing masks and you're not touching your eyes/mouth, you'll probably be just as "safe" as with these dividers (or more so). On a somewhat related note, I'm most happy about the idea of not being crowded at a craps table. I don't mind a full table for any other game, but a full craps table is annoying. Assuming I can still get on, a craps table with 3 people per side sounds great.

is this like the best thing ever for dice influences?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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May 12th, 2020 at 5:27:51 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Canít see a lot unless youíre in the camp that wants to hold people criminally liable for unknowingly spreading.

Speaking of criminals and knowingly spreading it. I find the following a little disturbing.

Two groups of inmates at a Los Angeles County jail tried to infect themselves with the coronavirus by sharing water and a mask, and within two weeks 30 prisoners tested positive, authorities said Monday.

https://abc7.com/inmates-coronavirus-castaic-jail-infecting-themselves-with/6173057/
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
WatchMeWin
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May 12th, 2020 at 5:38:19 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

is this like the best thing ever for dice influences?



it would be just the best thing ever! and let's hurry up and get these games open. Im losing money not being able to supplement from craps and sports!
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AxelWolf
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May 12th, 2020 at 5:59:16 PM permalink
Quote: WatchMeWin

it would be just the best thing ever! and let's hurry up and get these games open. Im losing money not being able to supplement from craps and sports!

See what happens when you don't learn to diversify. With the all the online +EV opportunities, I'm thinking about never leaving the house again.
I just wish I was a little bit more motivated.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Romes
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May 12th, 2020 at 6:41:44 PM permalink
Response to original thread question: Depends how good the game is.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
WatchMeWin
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May 12th, 2020 at 8:03:44 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

See what happens when you don't learn to diversify. With the all the online +EV opportunities, I'm thinking about never leaving the house again.
I just wish I was a little bit more motivated.



Who needs to leave the house when you can make the easiest money you have ever made in the stock market right now! .... the most predictable I have every seen it ! Printing it! Hopefully you are in.
'Winners hit n run... Losers stick around'
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