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May 1st, 2020 at 4:53:10 PM permalink
Hi All,

Can anyone advise whether John Patrick is still with us, or whether he's gone to the great publishing house in the sky?

His most recent online posting that I can find is one on his Facebook page that is a little over a year old. At the time I think he would have been around 86-87 years old. Both of the domains he had registered no longer have any of his material at the end of them (in actual fact johnpatrick.com, the domain detailed on his LinkedIn page, looks to have lapsed and has now been registered by someone else).

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November 11th, 2020 at 7:40:02 AM permalink
Quote: Goethe

Can anyone advise whether John Patrick is still with us, or whether he's gone to the great publishing house in the sky?



He seems to have vanished. Anyone else know anything?

His last post on his Facebook page was on March 13, 2019. His personal web site is gone.
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November 11th, 2020 at 10:20:20 AM permalink
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He seems to have vanished. Anyone else know anything?

His last post on his Facebook page was on March 13, 2019. His personal web site is gone.

He died.

https://m.startribune.com/obituaries/detail/160012/
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November 11th, 2020 at 10:52:22 AM permalink
Are you sure that's the right obit? One of the comments is from 2016 & his facebook page was active until 2019.
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November 11th, 2020 at 10:58:11 AM permalink
"Uncle Angelo"on Youtube says he passed away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A38RjMBFWW8

He responded to my question a few minutes after I asked.
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November 11th, 2020 at 2:54:09 PM permalink
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Quote: Wizard

He seems to have vanished. Anyone else know anything?

His last post on his Facebook page was on March 13, 2019. His personal web site is gone.

He died.

https://m.startribune.com/obituaries/detail/160012/



Quote: Obituary

He graduated from Redwood Falls High School in 1961, attended St. Thomas College in St. Paul, MN, and the University of MN where he was a member of Phi Kappa Psi fraternity making many lifelong friends.



I believe Patrick said he never attended college. Maybe even didn't graduate from high school; I don't remember. His math level was consistent with that of a high school drop out.
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November 11th, 2020 at 3:38:52 PM permalink
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His math level was consistent with that of a high school drop out.



I distinctly remember one of his videos advising not to split 8s against a dealer 10 because then you'll just lose twice.
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November 11th, 2020 at 3:49:58 PM permalink
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I distinctly remember one of his videos advising not to split 8s against a dealer 10 because then you'll just lose twice.



I think the way he put it was, "Why turn one bad hand into two?"

I offered to bank against him playing that starting hand if he did the same for me at the same bet level. Of course, he said "no."

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November 11th, 2020 at 3:54:45 PM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

I distinctly remember one of his videos advising not to split 8s against a dealer 10 because then you'll just lose twice.



And a lot of times you do! :(

Of course the problem with 8,8 vs 10 is that you don't win more by making the correct play....you lose slightly less (longrun). A lot of players have a hard time with that distinction.

For a card counter even worse. You are at a high + count, meaning you have your bigger bets out and you KNOW there are a surplus of 10's remaining, making an even greater likelihood that your going to end up with two 18's both losing to the dealer 20. I mean you gotta make the play because it is the optimal play, but it is not a good feeling when I get 8,8 vs dealer 10 with max bet out.
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November 11th, 2020 at 4:05:28 PM permalink
I didn't know John Patrick, only of him and his books. I never encountered him on any forum. So in reading the obit that teliot linked to, find it interesting that if this is indeed him, he comes from a casino owning family, something I did not know. Reading that almost makes you wonder if that played a part in all those books and strategies that were/are not winning strategies. (good for the casino which is in his blood lines) lol

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