Gialmere
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October 23rd, 2019 at 6:17:53 PM permalink
I see Paris Poker has started a field trial at--where else?--the Paris casino. Did anyone play this at G2E?

Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
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October 23rd, 2019 at 7:31:45 PM permalink
It looks like fun! I'll field test it on my in-laws when I can see the pay table.

Mrs. smooth gets very annoyed when I say something has "a certain je ne sais quoi."
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October 23rd, 2019 at 8:19:15 PM permalink
Based on the Scientific Games video for Paris Poker:

Rules
Player vs. Dealer
Five cards dealt, one card selected as a wild card
Dealer must qualify with a pair of aces or better
When dealer doesn't qualify: Ante wagers push
When dealer qualifies: All remaining bets resolved as normal

It looks as if you can make just an Ante bet.
Ante and Play bets pay even money.

I'm not sure if the Play bet is made before or after one sees their hand—if it's before, then the guy on the left past-posts at the 0:21 mark of the video!

Optional:
Players Monster bet
Banker Buster bet

From the 0:34 mark:
Player's Monster Bet pays*
Player wins if hand contains:
Five Aces—1000
Five of a Kind (other)—200
Royal Flush—100
Straight Flush—40
Four of a King—7
Full House—3
Flush—2
Straight—1

Banker's Buster Bet pays*
Dealer does not qualify—3.5
Player wins if dealer's hand is not a pair of aces or better

I don't know what the asterisk stands for.

There appears to be a progressive bet with a paytable from the 0:05 mark:
Royal Flush—100% of major ($10,000 in example); Envy: $1,000
Straight Flush—10% of major ($10,000 in example); Envy: $300
Four of a King—300 for 1
Full House—50 for 1
Flush—40 for 1
Straight—30 for 1
Three of a Kind–9 for 1
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October 24th, 2019 at 5:06:59 AM permalink
I saw this at G2E and have their rules in SG's "featured products" brochure.

I'm quite sure the player may look at his cards before making the raise/fold decision.
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October 24th, 2019 at 8:59:11 AM permalink
Is only one specific card in each hand (say the 4H) designated as a wild card? Or, if you have a natural pair of 4s, can you designate cards with the rank of 4 as a wild card?
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October 24th, 2019 at 10:20:16 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Is only one specific card in each hand (say the 4H) designated as a wild card? Or, if you have a natural pair of 4s, can you designate cards with the rank of 4 as a wild card?



You choose your wild card i think and only one card. The felt itself says "Wild Card", not something like "Wild Rank". So in the video the dealer is playing 444QT since she played a 7d to be a wild card.

But if you were dealt say 4c4h5c7d8h, you would call one of your fours a wild card to make a straight. This is very similar to Caribbean Stud with a choose your own wild card. The only major strategy decision is where is the play/fold point. A pair of aces (with what kicker??) is where I assume it is.
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October 24th, 2019 at 11:57:16 AM permalink
But it will look recklessly
: )
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October 24th, 2019 at 4:05:44 PM permalink
Okay, so with this rules clarification it seems to me that this game is very similar to 5 card stud without the wild card.

With the wild card, the categories of hands are:

5 of a Kind
Straight Flush and Royal Flush
Quads
Full house
Flush
Straight
Trips
One Pair

Natural High Card Hand --> One Pair (and infrequently straight, flush ,SF or RF)
___So the worst natural hand category in 5-card Stud is still usually the worst card category in Paris Poker.
One Pair Hand --> Trips (and very infrequently straight, flush ,SF and RF)
___ So the 2nd worst hand category in 5-card Stud becomes the 2nd worst card category in this wild card game
Two Pair Hand --> Full House
Trips --> Quads
___ Admittedly, these natural hands are significantly promoted by the wild card feature, but it refers to a small fraction of natural hands that were winning almost all the time anyway.
Straight, Flush --->Unchanged (and infrequently straight-->flush, or either --->SF or RF)
Quads ---> 5 of a kind
____ This is an uber powerful hand (Quads in 5-card stud) transforming into an uber powerful hand in Paris Poker (5oaK).

I guess what I'm saying is that Paris Poker will play pretty much like a 5 card stud game in which the dealer needs an Ace-High or better to qualify. The wild card feature adds surprisingly little.
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October 24th, 2019 at 6:34:27 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Is only one specific card in each hand (say the 4H) designated as a wild card? Or, if you have a natural pair of 4s, can you designate cards with the rank of 4 as a wild card?



As others have said, it is like trading one of your cards for a joker. It doesn't make any other cards wild except the one joker.
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October 25th, 2019 at 8:05:00 AM permalink
Here is my analysis of the Player's Monster hand. Can I get an a-men from any other the math geniuses of the forum?

Hand Pays Combinations Probability Return
Five aces 1000 48 0.000018 0.018469
Five of a kind 200 576 0.000222 0.044325
Royal flush 100 944 0.000363 0.036322
Straight flush 40 6,592 0.002536 0.101456
Four of a kind 7 58,656 0.022569 0.157983
Full house 3 123,552 0.047539 0.142617
Flush 2 109,152 0.041998 0.083997
Straight 1 334,608 0.128747 0.128747
Three of a kind -1 1,002,912 0.385890 -0.385890
Pair -1 961,920 0.370117 -0.370117
Total 2,598,960 1.000000 -0.042091


p.s. Happy Nevada day!
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